Cecil, Caitlyn, Confederate Flags....

[rudder]

Facebook, twitter, intstagram are all ablaze. Meanwhile... Obama just upped the game in Syria.

http://www.latimes.com/world/middleeast/la-fg-us-syria-20150803-story.html#page=1

Does obama think Putin will sit idly by? Putin will make sure Assad stays on top. This was also one of the points made my the Assad regime when obama finally did something about ISIS. The criticism was that bombing ISIS in Syria would lead to the U.S. bombing Syrian forces. So the operation is supposed to be defensive... but the fog of war can get pretty thick.

The U.S. already wasted hundreds of millions to get 54 active official U.S. backed and trained rebels...maybe the operation won't last too long as I think they are down to 49 now.

 

[PokerGuy]

Things in that part of the world are very complex, now more than ever. Having no real plan and an inexperienced fool at the helm certainly doesn't help us, but it's a difficult situation regardless.

 

[sunzt]

According to the Turks, Putin is thinking that Assad is expendable when he was in Turkey trying to get closer ties with Turkey. Too lazy to find and post the link, but you can find them somewhere.

 

[soundforbjt]

Things in that part of the world are very complex, now more than ever. Having no real plan and an inexperienced fool at the helm certainly doesn't help us, but it's a difficult situation regardless.

So, which of the current crop of republican candidates do you feel has the experience/plan to handle it?

 

[thraashman]

Things in that part of the world are very complex, now more than ever. Having no real plan and an inexperienced fool at the helm certainly doesn't help us, but it's a difficult situation regardless.

Having a fool at the helm is exactly why we should never let another Republican be Commander in Chief. Good thing we have an intelligent man who approaches things with caution and not a nitwit who dives in and causes the destabilization of a region then makes bad deals to pull out right before the next guy takes over.

 

[PokerGuy]

So, which of the current crop of republican candidates do you feel has the experience/plan to handle it?

I imagine just about anyone would be better suited than obummer.

Good thing we have an intelligent man who approaches things with caution

Nope, you must be confused, we still have obummer, who by his own admission has no real plan to deal with isis -- or anything else for that matter.

 

[Genx87]

Having a fool at the helm is exactly why we should never let another Republican be Commander in Chief. Good thing we have an intelligent man who approaches things with caution and not a nitwit who dives in and causes the destabilization of a region then makes bad deals to pull out right before the next guy takes over.

Oh come on, remember Libya? Obama wanted to get involved with Syria but the US public told him no. Instead he managed to weasel the US in inch by inch by inventing new threats. Anybody remember Khorasan Group? Yeah havent heard much about them since last Sept have we? They are the reason why we got into bombing Syria. They are also most likely fake.

https://firstlook.org/theintercept/...-invented-terror-group-justify-bombing-syria/

What happened here is all-too-familiar. The Obama administration needed propagandistic and legal rationale for bombing yet another predominantly Muslim country. While emotions over the ISIS beheading videos were high, they were not enough to sustain a lengthy new war.

So after spending weeks promoting ISIS as Worse Than Al Qaeda™, they unveiled a new, never-before-heard-of group that was Worse Than ISIS™. Overnight, as the first bombs on Syria fell, the endlessly helpful U.S. media mindlessly circulated the script they were given: this new group was composed of “hardened terrorists,” posed an “imminent” threat to the U.S. homeland, was in the “final stages” of plots to take down U.S. civilian aircraft, and could “launch more-coordinated and larger attacks on the West in the style of the 9/11 attacks from 2001.””

As usual, anonymity was granted to U.S. officials to make these claims. As usual, there was almost no evidence for any of this. Nonetheless, American media outlets — eager, as always, to justify American wars — spewed all of this with very little skepticism. Worse, they did it by pretending that the U.S. government was trying not to talk about all of this — too secret! — but they, as intrepid, digging journalists, managed to unearth it from their courageous “sources.” Once the damage was done, the evidence quickly emerged about what a sham this all was. But, as always with these government/media propaganda campaigns, the truth emerges only when it’s impotent.

And of course training 60 fighters that cost the US taxpayer tens of millions or maybe hundreds of millions.
http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/07/07/us-mideast-crisis-syria-usa-idUSKCN0PH1IW20150707

 

[fskimospy]

Things in that part of the world are very complex, now more than ever. Having no real plan and an inexperienced fool at the helm certainly doesn't help us, but it's a difficult situation regardless.

Your complaint about someone who has been doing the job for 6 years is that they are inexperienced at the job? Are you communicating with us from 2008? Hello, time traveler!

You dodged it with someone else, but I'm genuinely curious for you to mention a Republican contender that you think would have a superior foreign policy to Obama.

 

[CitizenKain]

Things in that part of the world are very complex, now more than ever. Having no real plan and an inexperienced fool at the helm certainly doesn't help us, but it's a difficult situation regardless.

So the Republican solution is elect people that can barely read a map, much less understand it?

 

[HomerJS]

Your complaint about someone who has been doing the job for 6 years is that they are inexperienced at the job? Are you communicating with us from 2008? Hello, time traveler!

You dodged it with someone else, but I'm genuinely curious for you to mention a Republican contender that you think would have a superior foreign policy to Obama.

I'm sure he would have said McCain/Palin in 08. Oh wait Sarah Palin didn't know Africa is a continent.

 

[theeedude]

Republicans think at Putin's level. Start wars and show how macho you are. Obama thinks a level above. He got Putin by the balls with the economic sanctions and also because Putin overextended himself in Ukraine. Much harsher sanctions and arming Ukraine are still on the table, which would crush Russia economically and militarily.

 

[rudder]

Your complaint about someone who has been doing the job for 6 years is that they are inexperienced at the job? Are you communicating with us from 2008? Hello, time traveler!

You dodged it with someone else, but I'm genuinely curious for you to mention a Republican contender that you think would have a superior foreign policy to Obama.

When obama debated mittens and said the 80's called and they want their foreign policy back in relation to Russia... that should have been a clue to obama's ability to lead on the world stage. And this came after obama had been in office a few years. Not only we have U.S. warplanes supporting Syrian rebels.... the only real ally in the fight against, the Kurds, ISIS can't get weapons from the U.S. and are being bombed by Turkey.

An GOP contenders who have a superior foreign policy to obama.... I don't know throw a dart at a picture of all of them and wherever the dart lands... that is your answer.

 

[theeedude]

Bush foreign policy: one war per term.

 

[PokerGuy]

Your complaint about someone who has been doing the job for 6 years is that they are inexperienced at the job? Are you communicating with us from 2008? Hello, time traveler!

Being in office doesn't mean you have actual experience doing something right. He obviously doesn't. He didn't when he came in office, and he doesn't now either.

but I'm genuinely curious for you to mention a Republican contender that you think would have a superior foreign policy to Obama.

Pretty much any / all of them.

 

[PokerGuy]

So the Republican solution is elect people that can barely read a map, much less understand it?

That would still put them a step above most democrat alternatives.

 

[Hugo Drax]

Trump would just tell Putin to go pound sand.

 

[CitizenKain]

That would still put them a step above most democrat alternatives.

So people who have accomplished things are nothing compared to people who can barely string together a sentence.

Shit, the dumbshits on the right have been screaming for years to get rid of Obamacare and not ONCE come up with an alternative. Now they are suddenly going to figure out diplomacy?

 

[feralkid]

That would still put them a step above most democrat alternatives.

Serious question: have you been in a coma since 2008?