i have the most updated version of nero and that doesn't work, cdrwin doesn't recognize it as a cdrw, but only as a reader, adaptec easy cd doesn't work either, i've had the most sucess with nero because it actually starts the burining process but i usually get time-out errors, some scsi/atapi error, power calibration errors happen a lot, and some errors that it doesn't recognize the blank cd, i don't have anything running in the background and no screen saver, i was able to burn a little bit of an audio cd once, it said that it succesfully completed the cd, but it turned out it only burned 4 tracks, i've looked at the creative labs website and they don't even have the burner listed there, i only have one cd drive and its a master on the secondary ide,