CD lull due to economy and CD prices, not piracy

Linflas

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DSLReports had this news item today. To bad this research won't get the same exposure as the RIAA's constant whining does.
Worldwide CD sales last year dropped 5.1 percent, a loss that analysts believe will continue for the next several years. If you ask the RIAA, these losses can be directly attributed to piracy. The RIAA continues to pound the sympathy drum, despite the fact that lost revenues have more to do with their own decisions than the decisions of music pirates. Economic recession, limited and corporatized radio playlists, and high CD prices are the reason sales are down, according to Forrester. Incorporate the war being waged on music pirates, and you've got an entire generation starting to download music out of spite, which certainly will eventually impact sales.

Link to the DSLReports news link here.
 

amnesiac

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Damn straight.
The following will have to happen before I buy any more music:

- Everyone in the RIAA and ClearChannel gets their genitalia set on fire.
- Price of CD drops to $9.99 retail
- Radio stations get to play anything from label AND indie groups
 

HamSupLo

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maybe the RIAA needs to realize that buyers are sick of all those pre-manufactured pop and nu metal acts.
 

Chadder007

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I totally agree!!
Im not paying 17 dollars for a CD full of songs I don't like only to actually like maybe two or three songs on the whole CD. I want quality not quantity!!! Right now record companies are coming out with as many new bands as possible with only 1 or two hits ...that aren't that good either.
 

Beau

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Remember when there was that national buy a cd day to show the RIAA that we still would buy cd's? Lets try boycotting them for a week to show them what we can do if they piss us off too much.
 

Vinny N

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Originally posted by: jooksing
maybe the RIAA needs to realize that buyers are sick of all those pre-manufactured pop and nu metal acts.

Yeah, god-forbid they should blame their drop in sales on lack of talent.

 

TallBill

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if cds were less, i'd buy more.. simple as that....

same with dvds.. if a new dvd was 15 bucks.. i'd buy a heck of a lot more..
 

mchammer187

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Originally posted by: bob970
if cds were less, i'd buy more.. simple as that....

same with dvds.. if a new dvd was 15 bucks.. i'd buy a heck of a lot more..

can't justify buying a CD that is only 74 minutes long when i can get a DVD with 120 minutes + of footage + sound, and extras for the same price plus the movie costed much more to originally make than the CD also

RIAA just inflates their prices too much if DVDs can make money than how can a CD not be a complete ripoff even if all the songs are good which will never happen

I will buy a CD if there is 5 or 6 songs I like but 1 forget it
 

notfred

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The other day at the store I saw "NOW that's what I call Music! Vol. 10" for sale for $18. It was sitting right next to The Lord of the Rings DVD... which was priced at $22.

Gee, hmm, should I get 1/2 hour of crappy pop music, or 2 hours of some damn good filmmaking including a soundtrack that's better than the NOW CD for basically the same price?

BTW: the only ones who can get rid of the RIAA are the bands. If they'd stop signing with labels that support them, then those labels would go out of business, and the RIAA would lose thier funding. If you want to get rid of the RIAA, go to concerts, meet the bands, and tell them how you feel.
 

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I'm personally not too fond of picking up a cd and seeing a warning sticker on the back that says there's a chance this cd may not play in computer cdroms. And to just smear that in my face, no one takes responsibility for it not working and they won't refund my money if it doesn't. Since I use my computer as a primary source of CD audio, I just lost 75% of the functionality of that CD.

I say if you limit functionality of a CD by 25%, 50%, 75%, then you better damn well charge 25%, 50%, 75% less for it. Not that it will ever happen.
 

BDawg

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Originally posted by: vi_edit
I'm personally not too fond of picking up a cd and seeing a warning sticker on the back that says there's a chance this cd may not play in computer cdroms. And to just smear that in my face, no one takes responsibility for it not working and they won't refund my money if it doesn't. Since I use my computer as a primary source of CD audio, I just lost 75% of the functionality of that CD.

I say if you limit functionality of a CD by 25%, 50%, 75%, then you better damn well charge 25%, 50%, 75% less for it. Not that it will ever happen.

What if Sharpie gave out free markers with 5 CD UPCs? :)
 

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Originally posted by: bob970
if cds were less, i'd buy more.. simple as that....

same with dvds.. if a new dvd was 15 bucks.. i'd buy a heck of a lot more..

I have seen new release of DVD's for about 15 bucks
 

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you know, i just got back from Best Buy, and they have alot of the new cd releases on sale for about 6.99 to 11.99. That's pretty damn affordable. You've just gotta want the cd right when it comes out, not a few months later when its up to 16 bucks.

The new dvd's there too were about under $14.99. These dvd's and cd's aren't really as expensive as everyone says they are.
 

Linflas

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Originally posted by: xospec1alk
why don't these things get reported by mainstream media??? argg!@!

In many cases the large conglomerates that own the "mainstream media" also own studios and recording firms.
 

Skyclad1uhm1

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Originally posted by: UCDznutz
you know, i just got back from Best Buy, and they have alot of the new cd releases on sale for about 6.99 to 11.99. That's pretty damn affordable. You've just gotta want the cd right when it comes out, not a few months later when its up to 16 bucks.

The new dvd's there too were about under $14.99. These dvd's and cd's aren't really as expensive as everyone says they are.

Here new CDs cost $22 (22 Euros) or more. New DVDs too in that region, you just have to hope they buy a lot of them and can't sell all, then they sell them for 9.99 afterwards. (The DVDs, the CDs may drop as far as $18 unless they notice after a year that really no one wants it)
 

LuNoTiCK

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Originally posted by: UCDznutz
you know, i just got back from Best Buy, and they have alot of the new cd releases on sale for about 6.99 to 11.99. That's pretty damn affordable. You've just gotta want the cd right when it comes out, not a few months later when its up to 16 bucks.

The new dvd's there too were about under $14.99. These dvd's and cd's aren't really as expensive as everyone says they are.

Yea but are those the cd's that everyone wants? Are those the popular cd's or just nothing and they dont expect to really sell it.



The RIAA sucks. Will they ever learn their lesson? They are just screwing everyone.
 

diskop

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There has been Video game piracy for much longer than music piracy, but video game sales are up 20%. Stop whining you pathetic cry babies.
 

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Originally posted by: xospec1alk
why don't these things get reported by mainstream media??? argg!@!

Perhaps the owners of the recording industry and the media are sleeping with each other? Perhaps they are in some cases one and the same, so they are masturbating at our expense.

I used to buy a lot of cds. Since this RIAA thing, that has dropped to 1 or less per year. Unless things change (and they wont) I am thinking less than one. That means none. Radio is boring. RIAA controls that except for a few indes. Pathetic. Now the government wants to allow them to invade home computers and alter files with impunity. Dem or Rep., these guys need to go
 

dman

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No more new release CD's for me until they are cheap. Like <=$5 cheap. RIAA can go bankrupt and won't get any sympathy from me.
 

Nemesis77

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My message to RIAA:

Give me a CD worth buying, and I will buy it. If you keep on offering me crap in jewel-case, there's no chance in hell that I'll buy it! And while you are at it, how about a change in attitude? I don't actually like to be called a thief. I'm your paying customer, I deserve better treatment than being harassed by ignorant record-moguls and copy-protected CD's that deprive me my fair use rights!
 

Linflas

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I have to admit the price is not much of an issue for me. I quit buying CD's solely due to the RIAA's actions and initiatives regarding copy protection and the way they are trying to limit fair use of their product. I do sympathize with the price issue though since I do not see anything in todays technology that replaces the role that 45 RPM records used to play. The RIAA loved it when we bought these things for 50 cents a pop and swapped them around etc. The fidelity on them was somewhat less than the 33&1/3 complete album but they are what drove the sale of albums. From what I have seen mp3s really moved in to fill the gap left by the demise of the 45. Like a 45 the quality of them is generally inferior to the actual CD they are ripped from and fans of the various artists will ultimately head out and buy the full CD if they like what they hear.
 

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Originally posted by: vi_edit
I'm personally not too fond of picking up a cd and seeing a warning sticker on the back that says there's a chance this cd may not play in computer cdroms. And to just smear that in my face, no one takes responsibility for it not working and they won't refund my money if it doesn't. Since I use my computer as a primary source of CD audio, I just lost 75% of the functionality of that CD.

I say if you limit functionality of a CD by 25%, 50%, 75%, then you better damn well charge 25%, 50%, 75% less for it. Not that it will ever happen.

technically the cd is defective and you can return defective cds.
 

zsouthboy

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Originally posted by: ElFenix
Originally posted by: vi_edit
I'm personally not too fond of picking up a cd and seeing a warning sticker on the back that says there's a chance this cd may not play in computer cdroms. And to just smear that in my face, no one takes responsibility for it not working and they won't refund my money if it doesn't. Since I use my computer as a primary source of CD audio, I just lost 75% of the functionality of that CD.

I say if you limit functionality of a CD by 25%, 50%, 75%, then you better damn well charge 25%, 50%, 75% less for it. Not that it will ever happen.

technically the cd is defective and you can return defective cds.

but they won't refund your money... all you can get is a replacement.... does you no good at all....

fvck the RIAA!