CC or CAL State to transfer to a UC

teatime0315

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So I'm stuck in a hole. I really want to get into a UC, but my GPA is not that desirable (~3.2).
So I've figured if I can't get into a UC right away, I would take the transfer route.
Now my question is, "Which is better? Going to a CAL state for two years and then trying to transfer out to a UC. or go to a Community College and transfer after two years?."
Has anyone done this first hand, and would like to share some info?
Thanks! :D
 

herkulease

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community college.

many UCs have an agreement. Its not that you can't go from a CSU to a UC but they take more transfers from Community college.

this was a few years ago. I'm not sure what it is now.

In the end it matters what you will be doing.

Are you going to a UC for a reason other than wanting to have a degree from a UC?

CSU are not a bad place. There are tons of people are extremely bright who choose to go to a CSU for various reasons.
 

CellarDoor

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Community college transfers get priority I believe. You can enter into a guaranteed transfer agreement if you GPA is good enough. I believe the GPA requirement to transfer from a community college to UCSD was a 2.8 (although it might be 3.0 now) and I'm sure there are other programs for the other UC's. It's pretty easy and a great way to go.

I believe community college transfers also tend to do better at the UC when they transfer, although I don't have the statistic with me to back it up. It's also less expensive.

Edit: Although you will miss out on the "college atmosphere" if that's important to you.
 

mrkun

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Yeah, CC students get priority. As for missing the "college experience," you'll still get two years of it.
 

WildHorse

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Of course you already know it'll be hard to practice a diligent study ethic at a laid back CC so you'll have to hold yourself to a stricter study discipline than prevails in the milieu there.

If anyone can succeed at that it's you. Be determined!
 

oiprocs

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Grad school? Go to a UC.
Know exactly what your major will be and a certain UC tends to excel in that field? Go to a UC.

Other than those two, I don't see any strict reason for you to try and go to a UC. The college experience, as others have pointed out, is a blast, and if you spend 1-2 years at a JC you'll miss out on good times.

That being said, you might want to check out Cal Poly SLO or Cal Poly Pomona. They are pretty good schools. Plus, you can always attend a CS, and then after a stellar first year of grades transfer to a UC. If I were you, I'd dedicate myself to finishing CC in 1 year, so that I could spend 3 at a university.
 

teatime0315

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Originally posted by: Oiprocs
Grad school? Go to a UC.
Know exactly what your major will be and a certain UC tends to excel in that field? Go to a UC.

Other than those two, I don't see any strict reason for you to try and go to a UC. The college experience, as others have pointed out, is a blast, and if you spend 1-2 years at a JC you'll miss out on good times.

That being said, you might want to check out Cal Poly SLO or Cal Poly Pomona. They are pretty good schools. Plus, you can always attend a CS, and then after a stellar first year of grades transfer to a UC. If I were you, I'd dedicate myself to finishing CC in 1 year, so that I could spend 3 at a university.

What the hell! I never knew you could finish two years of schooling in one year @ a CC! I think I might take your advice Oiprocs. I'll research more into it. PCC or SMC? I live closer to PCC like 20 minutes away. SMC is about an hour and thirty minutes away. I've heard that SMC is one of the best CC's to attend if you want to transfer to a UC. But i'm not sure if its worth the trouble of driving so far (plus traffic is hell).
P.S. What does CS mean?
 

AlgaeEater

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Community college all the way. If there was one regret I had in my life back in my college days, it was going straight into a Cal State and finishing. My girlfriend was the same way, but she got smart 1 semester in and left her UC to go back to a CC and then re-enter UC. (Best decision she could of made to) Community college effectively gives you way more money if you get financial aid, has the ability to cut your overall college course time by a year if you do well, and is usually a lot more friendly to get to than the hustle and bustle of the bigger schools.

 

oiprocs

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Yeah, if you meet the requirements. Either obtain 90 quarter units (60 semester units) so that you are junior standing, or meet the lower division requirement, which states that you were eligible for admission to a UC when you graduated HS but you chose to attend a CC instead. If you have AP's, that really helps. I had 65 credits from AP/CC when I entered UC, so after 2 quarters I was already junior standing. CS = Cal State.

PCC/SMC, I assume you are talking about Pasadena and Santa Monica community colleges. They are both semester, so you need to get 60 units. Assuming you start taking classes the summer after you graduate, you could do either of the following plans:

Summer - 20 units
Fall - 20 units
Spring - 20 units
Fall - ENTER UC

OR if that's too much of a load on you, you can do this plan:

Summer - 15 units
Fall - 15 units
Spring - 15 units
Summer - 15 units
Fall - ENTER UC


Understand that this is based off the assumption that you have absolutely no AP credits/college credits whatsoever. All of the classes you take have to be UC transferable, and that will be noted under the course description. This is also important:

"Two transferable college courses (3 semester or 4?5 quarter units each) in English composition; one transferable college course (3 semester or 4?5 quarter units) in mathematical concepts and quantitative reasoning; four transferable college courses (3 semester or 4?5 quarter units each) chosen from at least two of the following subject areas: the arts and humanities, the social and behavioral sciences, and the physical and biological sciences.

Each course must be worth at least 3 semester units."

As long as you maintain a 2.4GPA (I'd bump that to 3.5 personally...you're trying to get into a UC, you better show them you want to be there), take those required courses, and then fill out the rest of the 60 units with transferable courses, you shouldn't have a problem. I also recommend going to a UC admissions office, doesn't really matter which one, and talking to an adviser. He/she will be able to clarify all of your questions.

Also, when applying to the UC's, if you enter as junior transfer (remember, you can still enter as a lower division granted you were eligible) you will be required to list a major. If that is the route you plan on taking, be sure to research the department of the major(s) that you are interested in, to see if there is any specific coursework required. You don't want to get there only to realize if you had taken some different classes at the CC you could have bypassed some lower div requirements. However, if you enter as a junior after one year, you still have 3 years to get your coursework done, and that should not be a problem.

If I were you, I would transfer as a lower division. I hope that you are eligible to do that; the benefits in that is you can take a lighter course load at the CC since there is no minimum units needed to transfer. Your summer's can be spent earning money at a job. Once you get to the UC, you'll have a more diverse course catalog to choose from, so if you aren't sure about your major, you can explore for a year before you have to declare one as a junior.

Above all, keep in mind that there is no set in stone path. I went straight to a UC after HS, put myself in several different majors, some due to parental pressure, others due to me claiming a lack of interest when in truth I was quitting when classes got difficult. After 3 years of plenty of wasted loan money, 14 different majors, and a poor showing of grades, this past summer I finally figured out that there is no perfect major, and I'll never find it. So I chose that which interested me most, and I've come around to the fact that your degree does not dictate your career, which was probably my biggest speedbump. It'll take me ~2-2.5 years to finish, but I'm glad I figured it out now, rather than graduate and lament any decisions.

The whole point is that if you're unsure, don't think you have to choose something or you'll be "weird". Take and ENJOY the fact that you can look around; once you find that one thing you want to study, it will make everything else easier, including grades, which are kinda important, I think. ;)
 

mrkun

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Originally posted by: AlgaeEater
Community college all the way. If there was one regret I had in my life back in my college days, it was going straight into a Cal State and finishing. My girlfriend was the same way, but she got smart 1 semester in and left her UC to go back to a CC and then re-enter UC. (Best decision she could of made to) Community college effectively gives you way more money if you get financial aid, has the ability to cut your overall college course time by a year if you do well, and is usually a lot more friendly to get to than the hustle and bustle of the bigger schools.

Yeah, it's not unusual for people that got into UC's as freshmen to go back to a CC and transfer. I've heard that UCSD students are particularly prone to it.