CBS Reporter sexually assaulted during Egypt celebration

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dca221

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ok...

http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Rape_in_Islam

Tho in this case I guess the people who raped Lara will be going to hell because

(1) She wasn't their captive
(2) They didn't wait one menstrual cycle

While you are linking to some demented interpretations, please also see the last sermon delivered by Muhammad, sometime around 630:

After praising, and thanking Allah he said:

"O People, lend me an attentive ear, for I know not whether after this year, I shall ever be amongst you again. Therefore listen to what I am saying to you very carefully and TAKE THESE WORDS TO THOSE WHO COULD NOT BE PRESENT HERE TODAY.

O People, just as you regard this month, this day, this city as Sacred, so regard the life and property of every Muslim as a sacred trust. Return the goods entrusted to you to their rightful owners. Hurt no one so that no one may hurt you. Remember that you will indeed meet your LORD, and that HE will indeed reckon your deeds. ALLAH has forbidden you to take usury (interest), therefore all interest obligation shall henceforth be waived. Your capital, however, is yours to keep. You will neither inflict nor suffer any inequity. Allah has Judged that there shall be no interest and that all the interest due to Abbas ibn 'Abd'al Muttalib (Prophet's uncle) shall henceforth be waived...

Beware of Satan, for the safety of your religion. He has lost all hope that he will ever be able to lead you astray in big things, so beware of following him in small things.

O People, it is true that you have certain rights with regard to your women, but they also have rights over you. Remember that you have taken them as your wives only under Allah's trust and with His permission. If they abide by your right then to them belongs the right to be fed and clothed in kindness. Do treat your women well and be kind to them for they are your partners and committed helpers. And it is your right that they do not make friends with any one of whom you do not approve, as well as never to be unchaste.

O People, listen to me in earnest, worship ALLAH, say your five daily prayers (Salah), fast during the month of Ramadan, and give your wealth in Zakat. Perform Hajj if you can afford to.

All mankind is from Adam and Eve, an Arab has no superiority over a non-Arab nor a non-Arab has any superiority over an Arab; also a white has no superiority over black nor a black has any superiority over white except by piety and good action. Learn that every Muslim is a brother to every Muslim and that the Muslims constitute one brotherhood. Nothing shall be legitimate to a Muslim which belongs to a fellow Muslim unless it was given freely and willingly. Do not, therefore, do injustice to yourselves.

Remember, one day you will appear before ALLAH and answer your deeds. So beware, do not stray from the path of righteousness after I am gone.

O People, NO PROPHET OR APOSTLE WILL COME AFTER ME AND NO NEW FAITH WILL BE BORN. Reason well, therefore, O People, and understand words which I convey to you. I leave behind me two things, the QURAN and my example, the SUNNAH and if you follow these you will never go astray.

All those who listen to me shall pass on my words to others and those to others again; and may the last ones understand my words better than those who listen to me directly. Be my witness, O ALLAH, that I have conveyed your message to your people".
 

jackace

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And, if you want to discuss battlefield rapes, you may want to ask Georgian women about Sherman's march to the ocean ... though they were not muslims

I'm no history expert, but the little I have seen seems to indicate that rape and murder by Sherman and his men were mostly just rumors.
 

OBLAMA2009

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i said all along these egyptian militants/agitators/protestors were animals. this is exactly what they did to anderson coopers female producer. they dont care about "freedom and democracy" any more than the iraqi beasts did, they just wanted an excuse to engage in anarchy and partying. this is why i, and the rest of the world for the last 30 years, support mubarek. this is what he was protecting the rest of the world from. these animals are going to be robbing, raping, molesting, murdering, terrorizing etc... just like the blacks in south africa.

by the way this lara logan is no angel. she is widely know to be a skank who would let pretty much anything ball her (Joe Burkett, Michael Ware, her husband etc...) so in this case we cant be sure whether it was an assault or a voluntary gang bang. shes fairly hot, basically the scarlett johansen of biased, inaccurate reporting
 

CptObvious

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Obviously there's no excuse for what happened, but is it really necessary for journalists to report right in the middle of a mob, hurricane, whatever? Maybe some viewers might see that as brave, but I find it really self-aggrandizing. Anyway, I hope she'll be OK.
 

JEDIYoda

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Originally Posted by OCGuy
There is a reason these backwards countries do not get to sit at the same level on the world stage with us.

We bribe their secular-ish governments to be our "allies", the population are still anti-jew, anti-gay, anti-women fundies. And by "Anti-gay", I dont mean marriage. I mean they will be killed.

Until fundamentalist Islam is gone, that whole area will be a shit-hole.

I don`t see the Egyptian apologists slapping down all this anti - Muslim banter...hmmmm
Could it be the truth is a scary thing?
The truth needs no defending.

Where is TareX and his brother Lemon law???
 

Capt Caveman

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Democracy is too good for these people. They need the iron first of a single ruler to stay in line.

Why do we try to apply what works for civilized people to places where it never can? See: Ivory Coast news as well.

/facepalm

We didn't apply again, they fought for their own democracy. It could have happened in any other type of celebration there and have nothing to do with democracy. We have plenty of animals here too.

Some fucked up people posting here.

Makes you sad that people actually believe what they're saying.
 
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Pneumothorax

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/facepalm

We didn't apply again, they fought for their own democracy. It could have happened in any other type of celebration there and have nothing to do with democracy. We have plenty of animals here too.



Makes you sad that people actually believe what they're saying.

Until I see a truly free election not being run or rigged by Islamic clerics and corrupt officials like Afghanistan or Iran, Egypt does not have a true 'democracy'.
 

actuarial

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Democracy is too good for these people. They need the iron first of a single ruler to stay in line.

Why do we try to apply what works for civilized people to places where it never can? See: Ivory Coast news as well.

You could also see New Orleans.

It doesn't make what happened right, but these reporters went in there knowing the dangers. This was not the first attack on a journalist, and it sounds like not the first attack on her. Fool me once shame on me...

It also was not the worst thing done to people during this (at least she's alive). It's nice to pretend like locals/government should give a free pass to journalists, but if everything worked the way it should the Egyptians wouldn't need a revolution to get out from under a corrupt dictator.

There is a reason we don't have people on the ground in North Korea freelance reporting. The level of danger in Egypt shouldn't be as high as in NK, but that doesn't mean it isn't there. You still have a corrupt dictator trying to thwart a revolution, and another group of people at the edge of mob violence to get him out.
 

yllus

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Funny thing is, if Mubarak was still in control this would've never happened. Goes to show that like Saddam, these countries seem to do better when ruled by iron fist.

That is incorrect. These kinds of assaults are commonplace throughout the third world, whether they be controlled by a dictator or a fledgling democracy. It's a social issue, not a governmental one.
 

TareX

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18 days.

18 days of girls, boys, muslims, christians, atheists protesting in millions with not a single case of rape or sexual abuse. It was actually quite remarkable, and people were wondering -maybe it was indeed the ministry of interior which throws in these kind of "abusing" people in the crowd. They've done it before.

I'd like to point out two things:

- Anderson Cooper, as well as over 140 journalists were heavily beaten by Pro-Mubarak thugs, regardless of gender.

- The crowds who celebrated after Mubarak's outster were fundamentally different than the ones who endured the 18 days. The celebrations included gangs of kids who wanted to have some action, and yes, including including many thugs.


But I love how the likes of JEDIYoda leap onto this and try to mutilate 8 million protesters.
 

TareX

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Democracy is too good for these people. They need the iron first of a single ruler to stay in line.

Why do we try to apply what works for civilized people to places where it never can? See: Ivory Coast news as well.

Yeah, these 8 million protesters throughout 18 days (including many of my friends -girls, not covered) without any single case of sexual abuse sure are rapists who don't deserve democracy.
 

TareX

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Funny thing is, if Mubarak was still in control this would've never happened. Goes to show that like Saddam, these countries seem to do better when ruled by iron fist.

Really?? Actually Mubarak's regime is KNOWN for sending plain-clothed goons and thugs to molest female protesters in the past; it's a very efficient way to end a demonstration from within.
 
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Check out Sweden's rape rates once it became Arabia of Europe. Women, especially infidel women are to be used and abused in that culture. I always love listening to notes from trials. "Yeah I raped the whore, what of it, she had it commin"

can you provide a link?
 

TareX

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I don`t see the Egyptian apologists slapping down all this anti - Muslim banter...hmmmm
Could it be the truth is a scary thing?
The truth needs no defending.

Where is TareX and his brother Lemon law???
Someone told me he has a life, and a day job -and is actually not committed to debating with barking idiots.
 

TareX

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While you are linking to some demented interpretations, please also see the last sermon delivered by Muhammad, sometime around 630:
(Sigh)

You do realize that slavery had existed for centuries before Islam, right?
You do realize that Islam ended slavery, and started gradually giving them rights one after the other till they were completely integrated in the society?
You do realize you're quoting verses that no longer apply in any way in the past 9 centuries?

Something tells me no, you don't realize that; and you ACTUALLY believe Muslims think raping Lara was completely ok and maybe patriotic.

But hey... you have Wikiislam! The most awesome source of information every idiot needs to be armed with in an internet debate. Kudos to you.

Sleep well.
 

werepossum

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While I agree that Muslim societies typically have a pretty high tolerance for rape of infidels and a pretty low regard for women in general, it's worth saying that no crowd this big is going to be free of such elements. Any very large group of worked up young men is going to spawn some rape if the situation presents itself; even the highly disciplined US and UK militaries have had cases. We've had black gangs going "wilding" in Central Park. I dare say you could not find a single race, ethnicity, country, or religion that hasn't had such occurrences from time to time.

I'm all for pointing out the violence inherent within Islam, I'm just saying that this didn't necessarily have that much to do with Islam. Maybe so, maybe not.
 

CitizenKain

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i said all along these egyptian militants/agitators/protestors were animals. this is exactly what they did to anderson coopers female producer. they dont care about "freedom and democracy" any more than the iraqi beasts did, they just wanted an excuse to engage in anarchy and partying. this is why i, and the rest of the world for the last 30 years, support mubarek. this is what he was protecting the rest of the world from. these animals are going to be robbing, raping, molesting, murdering, terrorizing etc... just like the blacks in south africa.

by the way this lara logan is no angel. she is widely know to be a skank who would let pretty much anything ball her (Joe Burkett, Michael Ware, her husband etc...) so in this case we cant be sure whether it was an assault or a voluntary gang bang. shes fairly hot, basically the scarlett johansen of biased, inaccurate reporting

How can so much stupid be contained in one post?
 

Infohawk

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I believe your right. When that demented thug Lyndie England was stacking Arab ass pyramids she to was in the Iraq. A Muslim country! Or was Abu Gharib not a celebration of democracy?

No. Abu Graib was not a celebration of democracy you idiot. Do you really not see the difference?
 

cwjerome

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Obviously there's no excuse for what happened, but is it really necessary for journalists to report right in the middle of a mob, hurricane, whatever? Maybe some viewers might see that as brave, but I find it really self-aggrandizing. Anyway, I hope she'll be OK.

I am not commenting specifically on Egypt, but I have to agree that all these reporters always trying to be in the middle of a hot mess is detracting and unnecessary. When they do, occasional bad things will happen.

I have to laugh... even the local news gets in on it in a subtle way when they always report LIVE! It's splashed across the screen LIVE!!, wow, look at all this LIVE!! coverage, never mind you're standing on a streetcorner in the middle of the city where a hit-and-run occurred like 6 hours ago. But it's LIVE!!

It's a similar thing to most animal documentaries these days when the hosts thrust themselves onto the screen and hold up the animals and basically hog the limelight. STFU and quit molesting the animals, I want to see how they live their lives in the wild, not some douche wrestling around with it.

/end OT rant/
 

jonks

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From the source, Clerics, is that good enough? Probably too right wing for you, it is for me, but here ya go all it took was googling "women asking for it" "clerics"

http://jimball.com.au/features/Political uproar over mufti's rmearks -The Copenhagen Post.htm

http://www.smh.com.au/news/National...h-satanic-dress/2005/04/23/1114152362381.html

No, this is not good enough for me, and it shouldn't be good enough for you to claim there is a rape epidemic in sweden. There's no statistics or evidence here supporting an increase in rapes, let alone a rape crisis, institgated by muslim immigrants. It's just two articles about whacko religious clergy saying crazy stuff per usual. Right wing sites abound about some muslim/immigrant rape crisis in sweden and I haven't seen any evidence to support that. Again, I'm not denying this purported increase or crisis, I'm trying to find out where, besides innuendo and rhetoric, any evidence exists to support such a claim. A couple of clerics saying "women deserve to be raped" does not equal evidenciary support for the proposition that immigrants are raping women in record numbers.
 

silverpig

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i said all along these egyptian militants/agitators/protestors were animals. this is exactly what they did to anderson coopers female producer. they dont care about "freedom and democracy" any more than the iraqi beasts did, they just wanted an excuse to engage in anarchy and partying. this is why i, and the rest of the world for the last 30 years, support mubarek. this is what he was protecting the rest of the world from. these animals are going to be robbing, raping, molesting, murdering, terrorizing etc... just like the blacks in south africa.

by the way this lara logan is no angel. she is widely know to be a skank who would let pretty much anything ball her (Joe Burkett, Michael Ware, her husband etc...) so in this case we cant be sure whether it was an assault or a voluntary gang bang. shes fairly hot, basically the scarlett johansen of biased, inaccurate reporting

Wow.