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Caught my neighbor stealing cable, should I turn him in?

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guyver01 said:
let me know how that argument works out in court when you're charged with "Theft Of Service".

Judge: This isn't jail time. PRISON instead.
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Doesn't change the fact it's not stealing.

Same as piracy. Just because you could get jail time for it doesn't prove anything.
 
LOL_Wut_Axel said:
Doesn't change the fact it's not stealing.
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i understand you're from Puerto Rico, and they don't speak english there..

but...


THEFT = stealing.


Theft-o = stealing-o

comprendo?

theft n
A criminal act in which property belonging to another is taken without that person's consent.

The term theft is sometimes used synonymously with Larceny. Theft, however, is actually a broader term, encompassing many forms of deceitful taking of property, including swindling, Embezzlement, and False Pretenses. Some states categorize all these offenses under a single statutory crime of theft.



STEALING. This term imports, ex vi termini, nearly the same as larceny; but in common parlance, it does not always import a felony; as, for example, you stole an acre of my land.
 
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guyver01 said:
i understand you're from Puerto Rico, and they don't speak english there..

but...


THEFT = stealing.


Theft-o = stealing-o

comprendo?

theft n
A criminal act in which property belonging to another is taken without that person's consent.

The term theft is sometimes used synonymously with Larceny. Theft, however, is actually a broader term, encompassing many forms of deceitful taking of property, including swindling, Embezzlement, and False Pretenses. Some states categorize all these offenses under a single statutory crime of theft.



STEALING. This term imports, ex vi termini, nearly the same as larceny; but in common parlance, it does not always import a felony; as, for example, you stole an acre of my land.
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Go troll somewhere else, moron. If your only argument is to use a person's country you've pretty much lost the argument already.

Also, stealing: taking someone's property without their permission. Theft of services does not equal stealing. It's only a legal term; nothing else.

Grow up.
 
guyver01 said:
If the connector at the back of the box isn't crimped properly, it CAN throw ingress back into the network return path.
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This is my main complaint with people that steal service. They typically do it with the cheapest of parts that they got at the local dollar store. So my cable modems noise goes up, my download rates go down and I have to waste my time calling service lines to get it fixed.
 
guyver01 said:
gee... guess what you get charged with when you steal. THEFT.

the LAW is all that matters.

get over it.
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Says the moron that thinks connecting a line to a cable box is "stealing". I know you're pretty stupid, but perhaps you'll get it after the 20th time: no property was taken away from anyone=no stealing.

You may argue over file sharing being "theft", too, but that doesn't change the fact. It's not stealing.
 
Justinator said:
Because nobody is bigger thieves than the cable company, your insurance company, the oil company, and the electric company. Take back what you can. Life is short... now back to putting them groceries away.
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+1. Or you can tell yourself the world is still the way Disney told you it was when you were 7. I'd hate having a neighbor like you.
 
guyver01 said:
whatever helps you sleep at night dude

i'm done.

justify your illegal activities with whatever you need to help you sleep.
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I love people with a holier-than-thou attitude. One, I don't have cable: I pay for internet and stream shows. Two, I pay for almost all the digital media and software I have (except around half the music, but everything else yes), and for bands I support them by going to concerts. Three, STFU; you have no clue of what you're talking about.

Also, the illegality of something doesn't make it wrong automatically. If your argument is only about the legality of something, I bet you'd be one of the assholes that snitches on someone simply for smoking pot.
 
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Why is there any argument as to whether this is stealing or not? If someone owns something and you do anything with it without their permission, you stole it, at least for the period of time in which you used it. That's it. Whether they actually suffered a tangible loss or not is irrelevant. They own the thing. They define the parameters in which the thing can be used. Circumventing those parameters without permission is theft. Period.

It's not that I'm so high and mighty about all this. If I weren't able to pay for cable I might be tempted to steal it, but I wouldn't be trying to make some nonexistent distinction about how I'm not "really" stealing. I'd just say yeah, I'm stealing cable from my neighbor or whoever. And I'd stop stealing and start paying as soon as I could because I don't want that shit weighing on my mind.
 
On the one hand, you have someone receiving a service without paying for it. I do not approve of such action.

On the other hand, you have a cable company, who openly practices collusion, spends millions upon millions on lobbying to convince the government that avoiding competition is the only way to sustain their networks (which are pathetically behind the times because they don't HAVE to maintain top of the line networks, which goes back to the lack of competition), and constantly raise prices because "it's the only way to maintain high service quality" (and if you've seen cable company financials, you'd call BS in a heartbeat). Cable companies lie, cheat, and screw over their customers in any way they can so they can get an extra buck.

I don't illegally download software, I don't illegally download music. Would I turn in the person for stealing cable? I don't know, maybe, maybe not, but I sure as hell don't feel some moral obligation to help a company that I know that actively circumvents the laws of the land in regards to competition just so they can screw over the public at large.

The true moral dilemma in all of this, is do you turn someone in for stealing from a thief who has enough money and influence to get exceptions to laws that the common man cannot receive?
 
Duder1no said:
Exactly, OP is just attention whoring looking for an opportunity to drive his "morals" down everyone else's throats.
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I created this thread with an open mind and was seriously considering everybody's feedback. Eventually, I realized that I didn't really respect the opinion of most of the posters. That was when I made post #58.
 
Leros said:
I created this thread with an open mind and was seriously considering everybody's feedback. Eventually, I realized that I didn't really respect the opinion of most of the posters. That was when I made post #58.
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I hadn't read that post, just goes to show that Gibson and myself are right, you had already made up your damn mind and are just attention whoring.
 
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