Catleap question?

[MTDEW]

Let me put it this way. Who sells an ips display at any size that runs 120Hz? Nobody does except these that can be overclocked.

That is the point.... Not even the Catleaps are rated at 120hz.
The panels were not designed to run at 120hz. No one knows the effects of the long term overclock on them.

If you follow the official Catleap threads that were created and started this whole catleap craze, there is a ton of info.

A lot of people running sli cannot get over 100hz due to the inherent pixel clock limitation even with the 2b pcbs.
And a lot of people even with the 2b pcbs land somewhere short of 120hz in between like 85-100hz.

Some claiming to be EE's claim there will be long term damage to the panel running over spec, others claim the opposite and the most damage that could happen would be to the pcb only.

Of course, there is a ton more info on these panels to digest in those threads before making a decision on whether or not to buy a 120hz pcb.

And if i was considering, it, i would read them all, so i completely understood what i was buying and getting into.

It isn't as simple as just buying one and you're at 120hz.

Even then, If i wanted to try 120hz, i'd wait until these 2b pcbs were more readily available and buy one and swap it myself, since it really isn't hard to do.

I dont blame anyone who wants 120hz enough to pre-order one of these for $550.
Nor do i blame anyone who says its not worth it and would rather swap the pcb themselves for less.
And yet others who don't even want to bother and are happy with what they have running at the rated 60z.

It is all just opinions, on what its worth to someone.
To some it is, and to some it isnt.

 

[MTDEW]

cmdrdredd,
You know, you're right, your opinion is the only right one.

Why don't you just make your own personal poll and ask .. Is the 2b PCB worth $200? and make the only available answer YES

That way, when some moron has the nerve to have a different opinion than you, you can just link to your poll and prove him wrong.

And you may as well make one about the Catleap input lag while you're at it, so those idiots get your point too.

 

[Shamrock]

Shamrock,
I apologize for crapping on your thread, i just didn't appreciate being mis-quoted as saying the Catleap isnt a great deal at ~$350.
I mean, heck I actually own one and stated i felt lucky to have it.

The point i was trying to make was when looking at one of these with 120hz, don't just assume that because someone else's opinion is that its a hot deal that it is.
Always take the time to read all the information available and decide if if its a hot deal "in your own opinion".
Since everyone's priorities and opinions are different, as you can see from the poll on the 120hz site for the PCB swap.
And if you followed the catleap threads on the other forums, you'd see just how widely opinions on the value of 120hz PCB swap differs.


And of course, don't always assume that just because someone else has a different opinion than you , that you're right and they're just stupid, like some people do on these forums.

Actually Having the maturity and respect enough for others to take the time to understand why their opinion is different than yours, can only make you better informed in the future.
Otherwise you may as well just have your own personal forum and only read your own posts...LOL


These are great monitors, I have no complaints and if 120hz was a higher priority for me, I certainly would be "arguing with myself" if it was worth $200 extra for the PCB swap.
Since I already own one, and am very happy with it, my decision has already been made.
And Greensum is easy to deal with, so if you do consider buying one of the 120hz Catleaps, i'm sure shooting him an email and asking if it comes with the correct power brick and plugs you need, he'll glady let you know.

Oh not a problem man. Gives me more research material to look over. Thorough research is good research. I won't be buying one till around Christmas, so I got time to read!

 

[cmdrdredd]

cmdrdredd,
You know, you're right, your opinion is the only right one.

Why don't you just make your own personal poll and ask .. Is the 2b PCB worth $200? and make the only available answer YES

That way, when some moron has the nerve to have a different opinion than you, you can just link to your poll and prove him wrong.

And you may as well make one about the Catleap input lag while you're at it, so those idiots get your point too.

Wow dude...go have a beer and relax or something. That was totally unnecessary.

 

[MTDEW]

Wow dude...go have a beer and relax or something. That was totally unnecessary.

Yes it was, people have been politely trying to tell you the same thing in the Catleap input lag thread for days and you just dont seem to catch on.
You have no respect for others opinions.

 

[cmdrdredd]

No when it is not opinion. It is fact. Every monitor has input lag. Every one ever made. You are the one ignoring facts. I even posted links to articles and you still ignore pure facts.

Get a clue

 

[MTDEW]

No when it is not opinion. It is fact. Every monitor has input lag. Every one ever made. You are the one ignoring facts. I even posted links to articles and you still ignore pure facts.

Get a clue

See, there you go again.
Nobody said that wasn't true, they say that the majority don't notice any, and it may bother you but it doesn't bother them.
They show respect for your opinion and voice theirs.

Yet, you still insist those people see things your way.
And you downright call people clueless and stupid because they don't agree with your opinion.

Anyway, like i said, just create your own personal polls on the matter, that will keep other peoples opinions from messing them up. :thumbsup:

 

[cmdrdredd]

Now you make things up. Nobody was called stupid. I am pointing out a fact and then you fire back with insults. This has absolutely nothing to do with opinions. All monitors have input lag and multiple inputs add more. That is a 100% pure fact and cannot be chabged or denied. I even said "whether it bothers you or not I can't say". Go look back. I was stating a fact then saying maybe you won't be bothered by it. Then it was you who came in talking your crap.

It seems you just want to believe your own nonsense here and ignore anything factual which was always the basis of my argument.

 

[Ferzerp]

Regarding your headaches: Have you tried turning down the brightness of the monitor a bit? Some monitors' default brightness levels will burn a hole in to your skull if you look at them more than a few minutes at a time. I had one like that once.

 

[zebrax2]

How long have you had your new monitor? Maybe you're just aren't accustomed to the size and aspect ratio of your new monitor? When i moved from (4:3) CRT to (16:10) LCD i felt sick using for the first week or so after that i was able to adjust and everything has been fine since then.

 

[MTDEW]

Now you make things up. Nobody was called stupid. I am pointing out a fact and then you fire back with insults. This has absolutely nothing to do with opinions. All monitors have input lag and multiple inputs add more. That is a 100% pure fact and cannot be chabged or denied. I even said "whether it bothers you or not I can't say". Go look back. I was stating a fact then saying maybe you won't be bothered by it. Then it was you who came in talking your crap.

It seems you just want to believe your own nonsense here and ignore anything factual which was always the basis of my argument.

I'll just copy and paste it, since you must have just missed it the first time and the many times it was posted in the other thread.
See, there you go again.
Nobody said that wasn't true, they say that the majority don't notice any, and it may bother you but it doesn't bother them.
They show respect for your opinion and voice theirs.

They even agreed The perception of input lag is a very subjective matter.
And you insult them back calling them clueless.

Anyway, i'm done crapping on someone else's thread.

Feel free to argue with yourself for awhile though.

 

[Shamrock]

Regarding your headaches: Have you tried turning down the brightness of the monitor a bit? Some monitors' default brightness levels will burn a hole in to your skull if you look at them more than a few minutes at a time. I had one like that once.

Yes, I have even turned it down so much, that you can't see anything in moderate gray areas (such as a car's cabin), still happens. But helps a little.

How long have you had your new monitor? Maybe you're just aren't accustomed to the size and aspect ratio of your new monitor? When i moved from (4:3) CRT to (16:10) LCD i felt sick using for the first week or so after that i was able to adjust and everything has been fine since then.

Almost a year? Bought it sometime in October 2011. When I walk into a Best Buy or electronics store, I have to look at the ground, because of all the TVs. My home TV doesn't give me headaches or make me sick, because I have 55" w/ 240hz. I think, not sure if it's the Hz, or contrast ratio, or input lag, or what have you.

My interest in Catleaps stem from Apple. When I was in same said store, I could stand and view their 30" for hours, and not get sick.

I have really sensitive eyes. When I ride my motorcycle, I have to use a dark smoke shield AND sunglasses.

 

[hokies83]

Only game i can notice any imput lag in is BF3.

 

[zebrax2]

Almost a year? Bought it sometime in October 2011. When I walk into a Best Buy or electronics store, I have to look at the ground, because of all the TVs. My home TV doesn't give me headaches or make me sick, because I have 55" w/ 240hz. I think, not sure if it's the Hz, or contrast ratio, or input lag, or what have you.

My interest in Catleaps stem from Apple. When I was in same said store, I could stand and view their 30" for hours, and not get sick.

I have really sensitive eyes. When I ride my motorcycle, I have to use a dark smoke shield AND sunglasses.

That eliminates what i said then.