Catleap question?

[Shamrock]

I recently bought a 28" Hanns-G monitor (1900x1200) @ 60Hz, and before that I had a NEC crt monitor.

The NEC did NOT give me headaches and nausea, but this new Hanns-G makes me sick after about an hour, and migraines soon after. I have really sensitive eyes.

My question is, if I buy a Catleap (for 120Hz purposes), does it also suffer from fuzziness if I lower the resolution to say, 1080p? I don't want the 23", but the 27" with 1440p. I would have to lower the Res in games, because my AMD HD 7850 wouldn't handle 1440p too well.

 

[Gordon Freemen]

Higher resolution with lowered details is always better than higer graphical settings and a lower resolution IMHO. That 7850 will be adequate for 1440P gaming if you lower the settings in some game down a notch or two.

 

[Carfax83]

My question is, if I buy a Catleap (for 120Hz purposes), does it also suffer from fuzziness if I lower the resolution to say, 1080p? I don't want the 23", but the 27" with 1440p. I would have to lower the Res in games, because my AMD HD 7850 wouldn't handle 1440p too well.

LCD/LED Monitor's always look best when displaying their native resolution. Unless you have a scaler (which this monitor doesn't), then yeah, the image will probably look fuzzy. You can use your video card scaler, but I don't think it will look that good...

If all you're looking for is 120Hz, you're much better off just getting a native 1080p 120Hz monitor..

I just checked the stepping on mine and I have E stepping, so I can't overclock mine

 

[Destiny]

I recently bought a 28" Hanns-G monitor (1900x1200) @ 60Hz, and before that I had a NEC crt monitor.

The NEC did NOT give me headaches and nausea, but this new Hanns-G makes me sick after about an hour, and migraines soon after. I have really sensitive eyes.

My question is, if I buy a Catleap (for 120Hz purposes), does it also suffer from fuzziness if I lower the resolution to say, 1080p? I don't want the 23", but the 27" with 1440p. I would have to lower the Res in games, because my AMD HD 7850 wouldn't handle 1440p too well.

You won't have to lower resolutions in games - you can still play at 1440p, just turn down/off other stuff like AA/MSAA, etc... still look gorgeous in 1440p

 

[Shamrock]

Thanks Carfax, but not many 1080p 120hz monitors @ 27" and above. The ones that are, are $600+. Which is why I wanted a catleap, 27" $309 + 120hz, plus 1440p.

You won't have to lower resolutions in games - you can still play at 1440p, just turn down/off other stuff like AA/MSAA, etc... still look gorgeous in 1440p

Uhh, yes I will.

1080p with AMD PhII 955BE and AMD HD 7850 (OCed), dips low in some games.

Also some of my games don't even support 1080p, let alone 1440p. Which is why I need to lower the res at times. I do that now with my Hanns G but it's only one step down, but still looks kind of bad.

Like Richard Burns Rally & NFS Most Wanted.

But anyway, thanks for the input, I'll have to make up my mind soon. Can't take much more nausea/headaches.

 

[SheHateMe]

What makes you think that the Catleap will be 120hz.....

And if it was, it certainly would not be $309.

 

[N4n45h1]

Keep in mind that only specific variations of Catleap monitors are able to perform at 120Hz. I'm not aware of any of the 120Hz models currently selling at sub-$350 right now.

Also, you will be able to play at a resolution of less than 1440p. To keep the image crisp, it will not scale and will simply be a lower resolution with black bars on the side. Otherwise, you should be able to stretch the image via your graphics card.

 

[Anubis]

120HZ catleaps cost 450 ish

 

[KingFatty]

Maybe it's the LED backlighting that is affecting you. It could be that any LED monitor will have this effect on you, and perhaps you might try getting a fluorescent-based backlight?

The old monitor that felt good was CRT so the refresh rate of the video is kind of the same as the refresh on the light. But with flat-panel displays, the refresh of the video is *NOT* the same as the refresh on the backlight, they are two separate things.

So maybe best course would be to borrow a tester monitor that has a fluorescent light (CFL) and see if it's OK.

 

[Shamrock]

I'd never thought of that, thanks King Fatty!

More research.

 

[OVerLoRDI]

120HZ catleaps cost 450 ish

I think you mean 550ish

http://120hz.net/

 

[MTDEW]

I think you mean 550ish

http://120hz.net/

Holy price gouging!
And that is without the pixel perfect option.

 

[cmdrdredd]

Holy price gouging!
And that is without the pixel perfect option.

lucky to get these below $600 at 60hz really IMO.

 

[MTDEW]

lucky to get these below $600 at 60hz really IMO.

I have a 60hz version with tempered glass/pixel perfect, so yeah, i do feel lucky to have gotten it for around $350.
But a $200+ markup for the same panel with a different pcb seems a bit much to me.
I guess if 120hz means that much to someone, then they wouldn't mind, but i don't think i would have ordered one even if it was available when i bought mine.

 

[Anubis]

I think you mean 550ish

http://120hz.net/

humm thought they were selling for 450 like a month ago when they got them back in stock /shrug

i paid 650 for 2 of the 60hz version

 

[MontyAC]

Holy price gouging!
And that is without the pixel perfect option.

Those were special orders by the folks at 120hz.net. So the price was reasonable. They have a new website up, Overlordcomputer.com. They will import and sell several models with US warranty. One of the new model will be capable of running up to 120hz.

 

[Shamrock]

I apologize, I thought Catleaps were 120hz.

 

[cmdrdredd]

Anyone who says $350 for a 27" IPS is price gouging or $500+ for a 27" IPS that can do 120hz is out of their mind. You do realize these panels are the same ones Apple is selling for $1000 right? Yeah sure they might have a qobbly stand sometimes or one or two bad pixels that you really don't see much or some backlight bleed but really...you're getting a panel that could easily be sold by Acer or someone for $800.

 

[Shamrock]

http://www.anandtech.com/show/6131/nixeus-vue-27-a-430-wqhd-2560x1440-sips-led-monitor

Here is an IPS panel coming to USA to be sold by Comp-U-Plus. With the USA type plugs.

$430

 

[MTDEW]

Anyone who says $350 for a 27" IPS is price gouging or $500+ for a 27" IPS that can do 120hz is out of their mind. You do realize these panels are the same ones Apple is selling for $1000 right? Yeah sure they might have a qobbly stand sometimes or one or two bad pixels that you really don't see much or some backlight bleed but really...you're getting a panel that could easily be sold by Acer or someone for $800.

Hey there, don't beat me up too bad for my comments. :biggrin:
I did say i felt i got lucky to get a great deal on one for $350 / 60hz.
I just didnt feel, changing the PCB swap for 120hz was worth $200+ more, so my opinion on how much extra 120hz is worth is different then yours, big whoop!
Shamrock,
I got mine from Grreensum and it came with the right power brick, no extras needed.
So those 120hz ones linked above might come with the correct power brick/plugs also.

 

[hokies83]

I have a 60hz version with tempered glass/pixel perfect, so yeah, i do feel lucky to have gotten it for around $350.
But a $200+ markup for the same panel with a different pcb seems a bit much to me.
I guess if 120hz means that much to someone, then they wouldn't mind, but i don't think i would have ordered one even if it was available when i bought mine.

Well crap Tn 1080i 120hz Panels are 600$ +

So a 2560x1440 Ips 120hz panel that Blows a 1080i TN panel away.. for 50$ less then the cheapest 120hz TN panel is a steal imo.

 

[MTDEW]

Well crap Tn 1080i 120hz Panels are 600$ +

So a 2560x1440 Ips 120hz panel that Blows a 1080i TN panel away.. for 50$ less then the cheapest 120hz TN panel is a steal imo.

I'm just looking at it different than you guys.
I'm looking at it as $200+ extra for a 120hz PCB swap since we know 60hz versions of these monitors go for around $350 or so.
You guys are looking at it as a great deal on 120hz \ IPS \ 27" for $550 which it obviously is, especially when compared to the Apple Cinema.
The Apple goes for $1000.00.
These monitors go for around $350 + $200.00 or so extra for the 120hz pcb swap. (It just matters if that extra $200 is worth it to you personally for 120hz IMO.)

I actually bought mine awhile back when there was still a chance of getting a 120hz for $350 and seemed to just miss it.
But i didnt really mind that mine didnt do 120hz once i had it hooked up and calibrated, these are nice panels.

Edited: Since i cannot seem to type a clear sentence to save my life tonight.

Just look at the LINK that was posted for the 120hz.
On the right hand side of the page is a poll.
It currently reads...
Would You Purchase a PCB set?
Yes - if they were up to $200 - 38 votes
Yes - if they were up to $150 - 77 votes
Yes - if they were up to $125 - 126 votes
No - I would not buy a 120hz board at that price - 32 votes
No - I would not buy a 120hz board, regardless of price - 1 vote

So clearly I'm not the only one who views the 120hz pcb as extra and puts a value on how much extra i'd be willing to pay.

 

[MTDEW]

Tell ya what, i'll sell one you guys my Catleap for $600 and even ship it to ya free.
C'mon its a great deal!

Would you buy it?
Of course not, because the Catleaps go for ~ $300-$350.


And it costs $200 extra if you want a 120hz pcb.

 

[MTDEW]

Shamrock,
I apologize for crapping on your thread, i just didn't appreciate being mis-quoted as saying the Catleap isnt a great deal at ~$350.
I mean, heck I actually own one and stated i felt lucky to have it.

The point i was trying to make was when looking at one of these with 120hz, don't just assume that because someone else's opinion is that its a hot deal that it is.
Always take the time to read all the information available and decide if if its a hot deal "in your own opinion".
Since everyone's priorities and opinions are different, as you can see from the poll on the 120hz site for the PCB swap.
And if you followed the catleap threads on the other forums, you'd see just how widely opinions on the value of 120hz PCB swap differs.


And of course, don't always assume that just because someone else has a different opinion than you , that you're right and they're just stupid, like some people do on these forums.

Actually Having the maturity and respect enough for others to take the time to understand why their opinion is different than yours, can only make you better informed in the future.
Otherwise you may as well just have your own personal forum and only read your own posts...LOL


These are great monitors, I have no complaints and if 120hz was a higher priority for me, I certainly would be "arguing with myself" if it was worth $200 extra for the PCB swap.
Since I already own one, and am very happy with it, my decision has already been made.
And Greensum is easy to deal with, so if you do consider buying one of the 120hz Catleaps, i'm sure shooting him an email and asking if it comes with the correct power brick and plugs you need, he'll glady let you know.

 

[cmdrdredd]

Let me put it this way. Who sells an ips display at any size that runs 120Hz? Nobody does except these that can be overclocked.