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Originally posted by: Vic

But I'm curious... would you feel the same if the show was equally offensive of some other group, say black people?

hasn't it been?
 
Originally posted by: Babbles
I suppose the fact that you equate a concept such as religion, something that arguably the vast majority of the world practices in one form or another, with something such as the toothfairy is quite telling. The fact that you have no tolerance, understanding, or common sense does in fact demonstrate that you are becoming one of those religious people who seem to detest.
So if more people believed in the Toothfairy, it would then deserve respect? That sounds logical. But I'm the one with no common sense. Good argument there buddy.:roll:

I would like to go on record as saying I do respect Buddhist. They seem to be one of the VERY few religions that can keep their beliefs to themselves. I do respect that.
 
The toothfairy is such a weak strawman in a theological argument. Obviously the parents put the money under the pillow, thus the toothfairy is easily disproven. Same with Santa Claus if you want to go there. Everyone older than 5 knows how the gifts got under the tree. You can't make the same arguments against the concept of God.
 
Originally posted by: ElFenix
Originally posted by: Vic
But I'm curious... would you feel the same if the show was equally offensive of some other group, say black people?
hasn't it been?
Honestly, I don't watch it much. It's a show I tag as "used to be funny but now just tries too hard."
 
Originally posted by: ElFenix
Originally posted by: Vic

But I'm curious... would you feel the same if the show was equally offensive of some other group, say black people?

hasn't it been?

haha it makes fun of asian people all the time. I'm asian and I don't really have a problem with it.
 
Originally posted by: Vic
The toothfairy is such a weak strawman in a theological argument. Obviously the parents put the money under the pillow, thus the toothfairy is easily disproven. Same with Santa Claus if you want to go there. Everyone older than 5 knows how the gifts got under the tree. You can't make the same arguments against the concept of God.

it's not hard to make something up that can't be disproven... like that god is actually in the form of a hippo-rodent
 
Originally posted by: Babbles
Originally posted by: JackBurton
Originally posted by: Fritzo
Originally posted by: AnonymouseUser
Originally posted by: Fritzo
I don't know...a big problem with today's society is the lack of respect for anything. There's a difference between parody and blatant disrespect. Seeing what the episode was going to contain, I think the move was appropriate.

The problem with today's society is that people get bent out of shape over a ****** cartoon.

Who cares how it's displayed. If they were showing porn in animated form on public TV, would it be OK because it's a "cartoon"?

My point is a lot of the problems we're having with people today is their lack of respect. People don't respect police, they don't respect other people, they don't respect religion, it's like the Rodney Dangerfield Age! If the group you're trying to make fun of isn't laughing with you, then the joke it's appropriate.

Don't give me this bullsh!t slowball theory. It was not porn. And let me tell you, religion deserves NO respect. The problem we are having with people today is that they are brainwashed with religion and can't think for themselves. THAT'S the problem today.

I agree with some of what you are saying, but the moment you start trashing religious people and calling them "brainwashed" you become the exact same person that you claim to hate.

no one, and I mean NO ONE learned about god. They were tought, but they never learned. There is a difference. Being brainwahsed from birth to beleive in "god" is not knowing anything. it's memmorizing erroneous BS.
 
Originally posted by: Vic
The toothfairy is such a weak strawman in a theological argument. Obviously the parents put the money under the pillow, thus the toothfairy is easily disproven. Same with Santa Claus if you want to go there. Everyone older than 5 knows how the gifts got under the tree. You can't make the same arguments against the concept of God.

Vic, we've been over this before, but the Toothfairy is just as weak of a concept as God (whatever God someone worships). I can make excuses for the Toothfairy just as somone does when God doesn't answer their prayers. If someone gets what they want, God answered my prayers so there is a God. If someone doesn't get what they want or a tragedy happens, God works in mysterious ways. Either way, God exists without any proof whatsoever. You think you can disprove the Toothfairy, give it a shot. The parents put the money under the pillow but the Toothfairy with her magic powers mentally made the parents put the money under the pillow. The Toothfairy is very spiritual. Long story short, you'll never be able to prove there is not a Toothfairy. Why? Because I require no proof to make my claims.
 
Originally posted by: JackBurton
Originally posted by: Vic
The toothfairy is such a weak strawman in a theological argument. Obviously the parents put the money under the pillow, thus the toothfairy is easily disproven. Same with Santa Claus if you want to go there. Everyone older than 5 knows how the gifts got under the tree. You can't make the same arguments against the concept of God.

Vic, we've been over this before, but the Toothfairy is just as weak of a concept as God (whatever God someone worships). I can make excuses for the Toothfairy just as somone does when God doesn't answer their prayers. If someone gets what they want, God answered my prayers so there is a God. If someone doesn't get what they want or a tragedy happens, God works in mysterious ways. Either way, God exists without any proof whatsoever. You think you can disprove the Toothfairy, give it a shot. The parents put the money under the pillow but the Toothfairy with her magic powers mentally made the parents put the money under the pillow. The Toothfairy is very spiritual. Long story short, you'll never be able to prove there is not a Toothfairy. Why? Because I require no proof to make my claims.

Now you're just stretching. The key aspect of the toothfairy is that it puts the money under the pillow, not directs the parents to do so.

The path of knowledge begins with the admission of ignorance and the desire to learn. The source of all wisdom is "I don't know." Your source is "prove it." And that is your problem.
 
Originally posted by: Vic
Now you're just stretching. The key aspect of the toothfairy is that it puts the money under the pillow, not directs the parents to do so.
And that is exactly what religion does, stretches the concept of their God. But hey, if you don't like the Toothfairy character, I can make up another imaginary character with it's own set of rules. Would that work better for you?
The path of knowledge begins with the admission of ignorance and the desire to learn. The source of all wisdom is "I don't know." Your source is "prove it." And that is your problem.
The source of all wisdom is "I don't know," so "prove it." 😉
 
Originally posted by: IHateMyJob2004


no one, and I mean NO ONE learned about god. They were tought, but they never learned. There is a difference. Being brainwahsed from birth to beleive in "god" is not knowing anything. it's memmorizing erroneous BS.

That is an interesting, albeit clueless, claim to make. In one fell swoop you just eliminated all of those individuals who have studied and reflected about the nature of "god" on their own. Those that changed, or "found," religion later in their life.
You just assume that people only learn about god from birth, which would be a mistaken assumption.

Originally posted by: JackBurton
Originally posted by: Vic
The toothfairy is such a weak strawman in a theological argument. Obviously the parents put the money under the pillow, thus the toothfairy is easily disproven. Same with Santa Claus if you want to go there. Everyone older than 5 knows how the gifts got under the tree. You can't make the same arguments against the concept of God.

Vic, we've been over this before, but the Toothfairy is just as weak of a concept as God (whatever God someone worships). I can make excuses for the Toothfairy just as somone does when God doesn't answer their prayers. If someone gets what they want, God answered my prayers so there is a God. If someone doesn't get what they want or a tragedy happens, God works in mysterious ways. Either way, God exists without any proof whatsoever. You think you can disprove the Toothfairy, give it a shot. The parents put the money under the pillow but the Toothfairy with her magic powers mentally made the parents put the money under the pillow. The Toothfairy is very spiritual. Long story short, you'll never be able to prove there is not a Toothfairy. Why? Because I require no proof to make my claims.

Actually what started all of this was the discussion of religion and not God, you have, or are, trying to change what was being discussed (i.e. religion) into another concept (i.e. God) to make your argument better. There is a significant difference, I think, because religion by it's very nature has a set of dogma, morals, ethics, lessons and so forth. Therefore to compare established religions of the world and lump it into the same category as the toothfairy is quite idiotic. If you want to call "God" the "Toothfairy" then more power to you; but, again, to compare the concept of the Toothfairy with what reasonable people would consider religion is erroneous.
 
Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: JackBurton
Originally posted by: Vic
The toothfairy is such a weak strawman in a theological argument. Obviously the parents put the money under the pillow, thus the toothfairy is easily disproven. Same with Santa Claus if you want to go there. Everyone older than 5 knows how the gifts got under the tree. You can't make the same arguments against the concept of God.

Vic, we've been over this before, but the Toothfairy is just as weak of a concept as God (whatever God someone worships). I can make excuses for the Toothfairy just as somone does when God doesn't answer their prayers. If someone gets what they want, God answered my prayers so there is a God. If someone doesn't get what they want or a tragedy happens, God works in mysterious ways. Either way, God exists without any proof whatsoever. You think you can disprove the Toothfairy, give it a shot. The parents put the money under the pillow but the Toothfairy with her magic powers mentally made the parents put the money under the pillow. The Toothfairy is very spiritual. Long story short, you'll never be able to prove there is not a Toothfairy. Why? Because I require no proof to make my claims.

Now you're just stretching. The key aspect of the toothfairy is that it puts the money under the pillow, not directs the parents to do so.

The path of knowledge begins with the admission of ignorance and the desire to learn. The source of all wisdom is "I don't know." Your source is "prove it." And that is your problem.

the toothfairy does put the money under the pillow... through the parents. the parents are the toothfairy's agents... the clergy of toothfairyness, if you will.
 
Originally posted by: Babbles
Actually what started all of this was the discussion of religion and not God, you have, or are, trying to change what was being discussed (i.e. religion) into another concept (i.e. God) to make your argument better. There is a significant difference, I think, because religion by it's very nature has a set of dogma, morals, ethics, lessons and so forth. Therefore to compare established religions of the world and lump it into the same category as the toothfairy is quite idiotic. If you want to call "God" the "Toothfairy" then more power to you; but, again, to compare the concept of the Toothfairy with what reasonable people would consider religion is erroneous.
If you say so. What about Bigfoot though? Or what about Zeus? Hey, that guy lived in the clouds.
 
Originally posted by: JackBurton
Originally posted by: Babbles
Actually what started all of this was the discussion of religion and not God, you have, or are, trying to change what was being discussed (i.e. religion) into another concept (i.e. God) to make your argument better. There is a significant difference, I think, because religion by it's very nature has a set of dogma, morals, ethics, lessons and so forth. Therefore to compare established religions of the world and lump it into the same category as the toothfairy is quite idiotic. If you want to call "God" the "Toothfairy" then more power to you; but, again, to compare the concept of the Toothfairy with what reasonable people would consider religion is erroneous.
If you say so. What about Bigfoot though? Or what about Zeus? Hey, that guy lived in the clouds.

Well Zeus would be part of the Greek pantheon of gods, but last I check there isn't such a thing of the Evangelical Church of Bigfoot. Who knows, maybe there is some Bigfoot religion.
I think you are just making asinine connection only for the sake of being argumentative. You seem to not to be able to understand, or choose not to distinguish, the difference between the concept of religion and the concept of a deity.
 
Originally posted by: dighn
Originally posted by: ElFenix
Originally posted by: Vic

But I'm curious... would you feel the same if the show was equally offensive of some other group, say black people?

hasn't it been?

haha it makes fun of asian people all the time. I'm asian and I don't really have a problem with it.

South Park pokes fun at anything and everyone, such as: Whites, Blacks, Asians, Mexicans, Russians, Parris Hilton, Celine Dion, Catholicism, Scientology, Jehovah Witnesses, Jesus, Mormons, Arabs, Jews, Jesus, Satan, Osama Bin Laden, Kanye West, Wal Mart, Barbara Streissand, Charles Manson, Bigfoot, Loch Ness monster, and Johnny Cochrane, just to name a few. That's what makes the show so great!

If you have the slightest tendency to be offended at anything that questions your beliefs or ideals, simply don't watch the show, for they will offend you at some point.
 
Screw CC for caving in to pressure from the holy Catholic Church.

The episode was funny as hell, and the episode where the Catholic church was supportive of cruises where priests & boys made love was funny as hell too🙂
 
Originally posted by: Pliablemoose
Screw CC for caving in to pressure from the holy Catholic Church.

The episode was funny as hell, and the episode where the Catholic church was supportive of cruises where priests & boys made love was funny as hell too🙂

They should turn this whole incident into another South Park episode. That would be hilarious.
 
Originally posted by: Vic
But I'm curious... would you feel the same if the show was equally offensive of some other group, say black people?
They constantly rip on blacks (Token Black) and Jews (Kyle Brovfloski). Also the poor (Kenny McCormick).

EDIT: I also forgot mention the "Goo-backs".
 
Originally posted by: her209
Originally posted by: Vic
But I'm curious... would you feel the same if the show was equally offensive of some other group, say black people?
They constantly rip on blacks (Token Black) and Jews (Kyle Brovfloski). Also the poor (Kenny McCormick).

EDIT: I also forgot mention the "Goo-backs".

they ripped the hell out of mormans twice, scientology got ripped hard this season also
 
yea they rip at everything lol🙂 the shows been brilliant these past few seasons🙂 i stopped watching it a long time ago but i've been watching the most recent seasons on dvd to catch up, good stuff.
 
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