Catholic Church repents as Copernicus reburied

[Analog]

FROMBORK, Poland: The remains of Nicolas Copernicus, the 16th century father of modern astronomy, were reburied in a Polish cathedral as a cleric expressed regret for Catholic Church condemnation of his theories.
Copernicus was finally laid to rest in a marked grave, the day following the 467th anniversary of his death, after a hunt by experts worthy of a detective story.
His coffin was entombed in the 14th century cathedral of Frombork, his northern Polish hometown, with his grave marked by a black granite headstone engraved with a map of the Solar System.
On Friday, the coffin was been taken on a tour of the towns and villages of the northern Polish region around Frombork , which Copernicus had known as a canon of the cathedral and an administrator of Church property.
Banned as heresy
In 1616, the Vatican labelled as heresy the Copernican theory that the Sun, rather than the Earth, is at the centre of our Solar System.
It banned his pioneering work De Revolutionibus Orbium Coelestium (On the Revolution of the Heavenly Spheres), which shocked contemporaries when it was published shortly before his death in 1543 at the age of 70.
Copernicus had postulated that the Earth rotated on its axis once a day and travelled around the Sun once a year, opposing the Church-backed Ptolemaic theory that the Earth was fixed at the centre of the universe, with the sun and stars revolving around it.
The Church only struck his work from its list of banned books in 1835, and in 1999 Polish pope John Paul II visited the astronomer's birthplace in Torun and praised his scientific achievements.

http://www.cosmosmagazine.com/news/3463/church-repents-copernicus-reburied-poland

 

[Vette73]

Catholic Church, better nate than lever

 

[techs]

Eventually they will have to do the same with Darwin.

 

[Analog]

Eventually they will have to do the same with Darwin.

Darwin wasn't a Catholic... 🙄 😉 :awe:

 

[Zstream]

Eventually they will have to do the same with Darwin.

Idiot lol

 

[Ruptga]

Catholic Church, better nate than lever

That's how it is with them. They are so tradition or past-oriented that they don't have any idea how to deal with anything less than 200 years old.

 

[Pepsei]

they didn't know where he was buried... i guess they found his remain by using science?

 

[Azraele]

It took that long for them to repent? Well, at least they did. 🙂

 

[MotF Bane]

lolcatholicchurch

 

[SunnyD]

Cathaholics.

 

[compbuilder00]

silly catholics and their geocentric views

 

[DrPizza]

Eventually they will have to do the same with Darwin.

Pssssst, the Catholics believe in Evolution. The Catholics also believe in the Big Bang. Starting some time in the 1900's, the Catholic Church realized, "hey, when there's a shitload of evidence for something constituting proof beyond a reasonable doubt, we'd be idiots to oppose it. We had egg on our face once, let's not repeat the idiocy of several centuries ago."

 

[Jeff7]

Pssssst, the Catholics believe in Evolution. The Catholics also believe in the Big Bang. Starting some time in the 1900's, the Catholic Church realized, "hey, when there's a shitload of evidence for something constituting proof beyond a reasonable doubt, we'd be idiots to oppose it. We had egg on our face once, let's not repeat the idiocy of several centuries ago."

Always fun when an unchangeable, written-in-stone religion (in some cases literally, as per its own texts), must evolve to better suit its environment.😀

 

[Kadarin]

The Catholic Church does evolve. Oddly enough, the pace at which it does so appears to rival that of the evolution of species.

 

[NesuD]

Pssssst, the Catholics believe in Evolution. The Catholics also believe in the Big Bang. Starting some time in the 1900's, the Catholic Church realized, "hey, when there's a shitload of evidence for something constituting proof beyond a reasonable doubt, we'd be idiots to oppose it. We had egg on our face once, let's not repeat the idiocy of several centuries ago."

Funny how they are actually referring to fundamentalist christians when speaking of religious opposition to Darwins theory of evolution yet they are using the word Catholic. Funny how those fundamentalist christians generally refer to catholics as non christians. Funny how much ignorance there is to go around for everyone!

 

[GagHalfrunt]

Pssssst, the Catholics believe in Evolution. The Catholics also believe in the Big Bang. Starting some time in the 1900's, the Catholic Church realized, "hey, when there's a shitload of evidence for something constituting proof beyond a reasonable doubt, we'd be idiots to oppose it. We had egg on our face once, let's not repeat the idiocy of several centuries ago."

Really? Show me some sort of official document or decree from the Catholic Church that recognizes the validity of evolution or the Big Bang. The Church has backpedaled a little on teaching Creationism and now admits that most of the stuff in the bible is allegorical bullshit rather than factual, but nowhere do they go so far as to approve of anything else.


But still, this is good news for all the kids still getting molested by priests. 500 years from now the Church will admit they should have done something.

 

[zinfamous]

The Catholic Church does evolve. Oddly enough, the pace at which it does so appears to rival that of the evolution of species.

hehe, win.

still, they have a better track record with Evolution than do the Baptists.

 

[ahenkel]

"I'm sorry if anyone here is Catholic. I'm not sorry if you are offended, I'm actually sorry – just the fact that you're Catholic. Gotta be one of the most ludicrous fucking beliefs ever. Like these vampire priests sink their twin fangs of guilt and sin into you as a child and suck your joy of life out of you the rest of your fucking existence. - Bill Hicks

 

[ElFenix]

Really? Show me some sort of official document or decree from the Catholic Church that recognizes the validity of evolution or the Big Bang. The Church has backpedaled a little on teaching Creationism and now admits that most of the stuff in the bible is allegorical bullshit rather than factual, but nowhere do they go so far as to approve of anything else.


But still, this is good news for all the kids still getting molested by priests. 500 years from now the Church will admit they should have done something.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catholic_Church_and_evolution#Pope_Benedict_XVI_and_today

i mean, it's not like this isn't the first link on google or something.

 

[Kadarin]

Really? Show me some sort of official document or decree from the Catholic Church that recognizes the validity of evolution or the Big Bang. The Church has backpedaled a little on teaching Creationism and now admits that most of the stuff in the bible is allegorical bullshit rather than factual, but nowhere do they go so far as to approve of anything else.

http://www.vatican.va/holy_father/b...ben-xvi_spe_20081031_academy-sciences_en.html

To quote the current Pope:

In this context, questions concerning the relationship between science’s reading of the world and the reading offered by Christian Revelation naturally arise. My predecessors Pope Pius XII and Pope John Paul II noted that there is no opposition between faith’s understanding of creation and the evidence of the empirical sciences.

While this is not an official document stating that the Theory of Evolution and the Big Bang Theory are true (in reality, they are models on which predictions are based), it does state that the past two leaders of the Catholic Church believed that science and Catholic belief are not incompatible.

 

[GagHalfrunt]

http://www.vatican.va/holy_father/b...ben-xvi_spe_20081031_academy-sciences_en.html

To quote the current Pope:



While this is not an official document stating that the Theory of Evolution and the Big Bang Theory are true (in reality, they are models on which predictions are based), it does state that the past two leaders of the Catholic Church believed that science and Catholic belief are not incompatible.

Saying "not incompatible" is light years from endorsing them. ALL of the official Catholic documents only sort of kind of almost begin to somewhat touch on acknowledging that the Big Bang and Evolution are not completely full of shit, but only insofar as God himself might have done them. They're saying they can't disprove them, but they don't really endorse them. They couch their phrasing in a manner that stops WELL short of actually saying that they have pulled their heads completely out of their asses.

 

[zinfamous]

Saying "not incompatible" is light years from endorsing them. ALL of the official Catholic documents only sort of kind of almost begin to somewhat touch on acknowledging that the Big Bang and Evolution are not completely full of shit, but only insofar as God himself might have done them. They're saying they can't disprove them, but they don't really endorse them. They couch their phrasing in a manner that stops WELL short of actually saying that they have pulled their heads completely out of their asses.

per El Fenix's wiki article link. the caption under the pic of JP, Jr:

"...new findings lead us toward the recognition of evolution as more than a hypothesis."
— John Paul II, 1996[25]

 

[DrPizza]

Seriously, you couldn't just quickly google that? I taught in a Catholic school for a year & had to be really careful what I said. During a physics class, I offended on fundamentalist something or other - the Catholic father at the school assured me (and her) that the Big Bang absolutely did occur & was accepted by the Catholic church. Pius the whatever in the 60's is the guy; links are above.

 

[RedCOMET]

Catholic Church, better nate than lever

i loled when i read that.

 

[TastesLikeChicken]

There's some irony in this thread when you consider that Copernicus himself was a devout Catholic.