Catholic Church Doubles Down on Anti-Same Sex Marriage message

[hal2kilo]

http://news.msn.com/world/vatican-digs-in-after-gay-marriage-advances

It appears they are working hard at becoming an anachronism.

 

[techs]

Yet, apparently gay sex between a Priest and a child ain't no big thing.

 

[Phokus]

Yet, apparently gay sex between a Priest and a child ain't no big thing.

Same goes for covering it up. Nuke the vatican.

 

[NFS4]

Yet, apparently gay sex between a Priest and a child ain't no big thing.

Bazinga!

 

[finglobes]

Well gay pol groups don't really care about marriage long run. Libs spent 50 years telling everyone marriage was "just a piece of paper". Now its the most sacred act because boys can't marry each other. Once gay marriage was legal they wouldn't care about it. its all about erasing the cognitive dissonance - which is also why the gays want to criminalize opposition to homosexuality and get churches in a corner. They know this of course. In reality the Catholic Church used to allow homosexuals to be priests but that was ended in 2005 after the molestation scandal (which was a problem with homosexual abuse and not pedophilia). The Church also was losing normal priests because the seminaries were becoming homosexualised and initiates were dropping out. Its the American church that had the problem mostly.

 

[ichy]

Fuck them and their hypocritical attempts to impose their "morality" on the rest of the country.

 

[feralkid]

Well gay pol groups don't really care about marriage long run. Libs spent 50 years telling everyone marriage was "just a piece of paper". Now its the most sacred act because boys can't marry each other. Once gay marriage was legal they wouldn't care about it. its all about erasing the cognitive dissonance - which is also why the gays want to criminalize opposition to homosexuality and get churches in a corner. They know this of course. In reality the Catholic Church used to allow homosexuals to be priests but that was ended in 2005 after the molestation scandal (which was a problem with homosexual abuse and not pedophilia). The Church also was losing normal priests because the seminaries were becoming homosexualised and initiates were dropping out. Its the American church that had the problem mostly.

Wow, that's a load of crap. Do you have any evidence to support this?

 

[finglobes]

'Fuck them and their hypocritical attempts to impose their "morality" on the rest of the country."

The Church doesn't really tell people not to be homosexual. Like most countries with other religions, 97-98% of people are born heterosexual and need no instruction from anyone.

 

[JohnOfSheffield]

http://news.msn.com/world/vatican-digs-in-after-gay-marriage-advances

It appears they are working hard at becoming an anachronism.

LOL, ass raping children is not a problem but consenting adults is horrible.

Wir wollen die juden ausrotten, was a famous saying about 70 years ago in the Catholic church before they found out they were ass raping young boys...

From the beginning to the end of time, it's a church for people who need their sins forgiven by a priest who fucks children.

That we pay taxes in the EU to support this shit is beyond me. If the Liberals had won in the UK we'd be paying less but because the conservatards are supporting all faith things we pay more.

Kinda like in the US.

 

[feralkid]

'Fuck them and their hypocritical attempts to impose their "morality" on the rest of the country."

The Church doesn't really tell people not to be homosexual. Like most countries with other religions, 97-98% of people are born heterosexual and need no instruction from anyone.

Got any proof?

 

[JohnOfSheffield]

'Fuck them and their hypocritical attempts to impose their "morality" on the rest of the country."

The Church doesn't really tell people not to be homosexual. Like most countries with other religions, 97-98% of people are born heterosexual and need no instruction from anyone.

You might not understand this but that you are born heterosexual doesn't mean that you have to impose restrictions on those who are not.

The church is trying to do just that.

 

[JohnOfSheffield]

Got any proof?

It's closer to ten percent homosexuals in any population but it really doesn't matter.

If there was one percent cockeyed kids in your group in school is it right to bully them?

 

[hal2kilo]

Whoa, I did not think this was going to go so far over the edge.

I have Catholic acquainances and they are not really listening so much to the Pope these days. Of course, I guess that questions why they are still in the church.

 

[nehalem256]

Well gay pol groups don't really care about marriage long run. Libs spent 50 years telling everyone marriage was "just a piece of paper". Now its the most sacred act because boys can't marry each other.

I liked the thread were liberals claimed marriage was just a private contract between individuals that the government cannot regulate. And then claimed it was essential to call it marriage and not civil unions so they could force private organizations to recognize the private contract

 

[finglobes]

Wow, that's a load of crap. Do you have any evidence to support this?

Not sure what part you're interested in. Many gays were not aware that homosexuals could become priests if they stayed celibate like everyone else. The molestation scandals showed almost all victims were males being abused by males - and victims were over the age of puberty by vast majority (pedophiles abuse pre-pubescent kids)

About the seminaries...

"Reports this week that the Vatican is preparing to release a new document barring gays from joining the priesthood may be an indication that the new pope is still making a priority of putting the priestly house in order. Gay priests and others argue that there is no direct link between homosexuality and pedophilia, noting that the majority of offenders are hetereosexuals. But conservative Catholics point out that the vast majority of victims of abusive priests are boys, and complain that the prevalence of gay seminarians is creating an environment that turns heterosexuals away from the priesthood."

http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,1108678,00.html#ixzz2BqiLjjnv

 

[finglobes]

"I have Catholic acquainances and they are not really listening so much to the Pope these days."

We know this since the Church told congregations not to vote Obama because he oppresses religious freedom. Hispanics went against the church.

 

[JohnOfSheffield]

Not sure what part you're interested in. Many gays were not aware that homosexuals could become priests if they stayed celibate like everyone else. The molestation scandals showed almost all victims were males being abused by males - and victims were over the age of puberty by vast majority (pedophiles abuse pre-pubescent kids)

About the seminaries...

"Reports this week that the Vatican is preparing to release a new document barring gays from joining the priesthood may be an indication that the new pope is still making a priority of putting the priestly house in order. Gay priests and others argue that there is no direct link between homosexuality and pedophilia, noting that the majority of offenders are hetereosexuals. But conservative Catholics point out that the vast majority of victims of abusive priests are boys, and complain that the prevalence of gay seminarians is creating an environment that turns heterosexuals away from the priesthood."

http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,1108678,00.html#ixzz2BqiLjjnv

Yeah, you see this doesn't tell you much, there are no choir girls.

Almost all pedophiles who abuse boys are married to women and not attracted to men, only to boys.

SO your "evidence" is piss poor and refuted 100 times over in these forums alone but don't let that stop you from saying it's a gay problem rather than a problem with pedos or priests.

Do you honestly believe that there is such a thing as hetero or homo when it comes to pedophelia when EVERY SINGLE STUDY EVER DONE HAS SHOWN THAT THERE IS NOT?

Yeah, no? But retarded? Yeah, no?

You're a fucking retard and that is all you will EVER be.

 

[JohnOfSheffield]

I liked the thread were liberals claimed marriage was just a private contract between individuals that the government cannot regulate. And then claimed it was essential to call it marriage and not civil unions so they could force private organizations to recognize the private contract

I liked the thread where you were arguing that you should be able to rape young girls.

I still think you're a Muslim. You act like a muslim and sound just like a Muslim trying to defend the Muslim faith.

 

[JohnOfSheffield]

"I have Catholic acquainances and they are not really listening so much to the Pope these days."

We know this since the Church told congregations not to vote Obama because he oppresses religious freedom. Hispanics went against the church.

So you're saying that the Church doesn't have complete control of the congregates?

That's too bad.

The world would be better off without things like the CC and the Taliban along with all of their supporters.

It's not year 685 and we don't have a use for you.

 

[feralkid]

It's closer to ten percent homosexuals in any population but it really doesn't matter.

If there was one percent cockeyed kids in your group in school is it right to bully them?

Of course not.

Actually I was disputing his claim of 98% born straight, knowing it is more like 90%. I felt he was trying to marginalize the gay/lesbian community with an appeal to (phony) statistics.

 

[finglobes]

Got any proof?

CDC says around 3% in US. UCLA says 3.4% in US
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2012/10/18/adults-lesbian-gay-bisexual/1642203/

In Australia a 2003 19,307 respondents between 16 and 59 found that 97.4% of men identified as heterosexual, 1.6% as gay and 0.9% as bisexual. For women 97.7% identified as heterosexual, 0.8% as lesbian and 1.4% as bisexual. 0.7% identified themselves as bisexual.

In Canada (Statistics Canada): A survey of 135,000 Canadians found 1.0% of the respondents identified themselves as homosexual and 0.7% identified themselves as bisexual.

Even in Lawrence vs Kansas the gay political group bring suit used CDC number of just over 3%. The 10% was found false a long time ago

 

[Incorruptible]

Yet, apparently gay sex between a Priest and a child ain't no big thing.

You do realize the priests engaging in this were GAY, yet nothing is said about that, they were gay not Catholic

 

[JohnOfSheffield]

Of course not.

Actually I was disputing his claim of 98% born straight, knowing it is more like 90%. I felt he was trying to marginalize the gay/lesbian community with an appeal to (phony) statistics.

I know and it was not directed at you, i was riding on your post.

 

[JohnOfSheffield]

You do realize the priests engaging in this were GAY, yet nothing is said about that, they were gay not Catholic

You do realize that pedophiles are not gay nor straight?

In fact most pedophiles, like 90% of those who prefer boys also prefer women when having sex with adults? Around 70% are married with children.

You don't understand the pathology, that is a good thing because no one should have to but it also means that you should shut the fuck up.

I've dealt with these scum all around this gods green earth and i can telll you that most of them are deeply religious married men and in 99% of all cases it's against their own son.

There, you learned something new that will make you queezy tonight.

 

[MovingTarget]

"I have Catholic acquainances and they are not really listening so much to the Pope these days."

We know this since the Church told congregations not to vote Obama because he oppresses religious freedom. Hispanics went against the church.

Yeah, their "Fortnight for Freedom" campaign was a complete failure and rightly so. Even as a Catholic, the bishops seem more and more out of touch with the laity these days. Their already diminished moral authority from the handling of the sex abuse scandals is eroded even further when they make statements regarding birth control and homosexuality.

Honestly, Rome doesn't understand religious freedom in the US. If they wanted to protect "the sanctity of marriage", then they would try to get people to recognize that state "marriage" and a marriage in the church are two separate things. The more liberal amongst us (of which there are many) are beginning to fear that the Vatican II reforms are in danger with the recent conservative tilt at the top.