Cat Prison

Hugo Drax

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Spay/Neuter your pets.

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DesiPower

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we cant stop humans doing it to themselves and you want the same humans doing it to pets?
 

sdifox

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Just give them to PETA, they'll treat them like brothers and sisters.
 

Red Squirrel

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It's definitely a very sad reality. :( People who want a cat or dog need to be made more aware of this and go to the shelter instead of buying from a breeder. There was a story a while back about a worker who kills the dogs and cats describing the process and how they really don't like what they do, but it's their job. It's a very crude process too, they just shove them in a chamber the size of a chest freezer and pump CO into it. They're not even put asleep or anything. You hear them screaming for their life. It's a very terrible way to go.


I don't get why they can't just release them in a remote forest somewhere in spring. (gives them summer to get accustomed to the wild before winter hits). Sure maybe not all of them would survive, but at least they'd be in the wild and have a chance at a better life.
 

KillerCharlie

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I would get a cat... if I could declaw it. No one does that anymore though. I guess that means another cat dies.
 

BudAshes

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It's definitely a very sad reality. :( People who want a cat or dog need to be made more aware of this and go to the shelter instead of buying from a breeder. There was a story a while back about a worker who kills the dogs and cats describing the process and how they really don't like what they do, but it's their job. It's a very crude process too, they just shove them in a chamber the size of a chest freezer and pump CO into it. They're not even put asleep or anything. You hear them screaming for their life. It's a very terrible way to go.


I don't get why they can't just release them in a remote forest somewhere in spring. (gives them summer to get accustomed to the wild before winter hits). Sure maybe not all of them would survive, but at least they'd be in the wild and have a chance at a better life.

They would devastate the local wildlife and then 99% of them would die.
 

alkemyst

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Just spayed another cat today. Got the bites to prove it. Rescue denied her and her kitten just pissed all over her adoptees house.

Had to pay $100 to buy back the kitten this week, had to pay $86 for her mom today.

Have an awesome black furry cat running to my door (and across an insane street next to a school each morning), that I worry will be run over. I need to get at least three kittens moved out so I can move that one in and find a home.
 

jagec

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I would get a cat... if I could declaw it. No one does that anymore though. I guess that means another cat dies.

My local shelter frowns on the practice but would rather see the animals adopted out than not.

But what's wrong with a scratching post? My cats have never scratched the furniture.
 

alkemyst

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I don't get why they can't just release them in a remote forest somewhere in spring. (gives them summer to get accustomed to the wild before winter hits). Sure maybe not all of them would survive, but at least they'd be in the wild and have a chance at a better life.

Wow, so if they seriously put YOU in some random forest you could survive? show me one post of your's that can prove otherwise.

True Ferals can hunt, many give the feral name to pets. Most pets are as stupid as anyone at surviving the wild.

I live in S. Florida. We don't get really cold winters. I have to bury a lot of kittens during that time when I am putting out $100 of food a week.

Fucking Canadians FTMFL.
 

Red Squirrel

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I would get a cat... if I could declaw it. No one does that anymore though. I guess that means another cat dies.

Check with your vet. Most do it. It's not cheap, but it's a better alternative to the cat not having a home.

Mine got it done and neutered at the same time. Poor thing was in pain and down for a couple weeks but she's fine now. She was crazy with her claws, I lived at my parents then, and she was just ruining everything and climbing door frames etc. Crazy cat. We were also worried she'd hurt someone. She loved to randomly jump and cling on to our leg flesh. Ouch.

The thing with declawing though, you need to be very careful the cat never sneaks outside. I had a few close calls with my cat and it scared the crap out of me. Personally I see it as a very last resort, but it's better to get it done than to get rid of the cat.
 

BudAshes

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Wow, so if they seriously put YOU in some random forest you could survive? show me one post of your's that can prove otherwise.

True Ferals can hunt, many give the feral name to pets. Most pets are as stupid as anyone at surviving the wild.

I live in S. Florida. We don't get really cold winters. I have to bury a lot of kittens during that time when I am putting out $100 of food a week.

Fucking Canadians FTMFL.

You really shouldn't feed feral cats.
 

Red Squirrel

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Wow, so if they seriously put YOU in some random forest you could survive? show me one post of your's that can prove otherwise.

True Ferals can hunt, many give the feral name to pets. Most pets are as stupid as anyone at surviving the wild.

I live in S. Florida. We don't get really cold winters. I have to bury a lot of kittens during that time when I am putting out $100 of food a week.

Fucking Canadians FTMFL.

If I had the choice between going in a gas chamber and going in a random forest, I'd pick the random forest. Cats have decent survival instincts, I think they'd be fine. Heck, they'd probably be welcome near cottage areas. Help control the mice population. Idealy they should just make the shelter bigger but at some point it will still not be feasible.

In a perfect world there would be enough homes for all of them, but sadly it's not a perfect world.
 

alkemyst

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My local shelter frowns on the practice but would rather see the animals adopted out than not.

But what's wrong with a scratching post? My cats have never scratched the furniture.

Some don't tend to a post, cardboard, etc. You have to accept some collateral damage.

My worst was a kitten I took in bit through my EyeOne.

Personally in these kinds of heated debates, I'd like to see pics. I never ask. I post easy peasy stuff and people demand them. I give them, then they just say "PHOTOSHOP!"

My vet doesn't declaw at first, but has done even 4 paw declaws for himself.

Most of the declaw 'ban' is due to asshats insisting cats must be put out at night.

Mine sadly, sleep on top of me and then bite at my feet when I push them off.
 

alkemyst

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Check with your vet. Most do it. It's not cheap, but it's a better alternative to the cat not having a home.

Mine got it done and neutered at the same time. Poor thing was in pain and down for a couple weeks but she's fine now.

First, a declaw will be cheaper than most spays unless subsidized.

Second, a couple weeks recovery is just INSANE for this.

I have owned a fucking ton of cats since I foster them.

Some want declaws some dont. I will cover it if they want it and I have no other adopters.

Most I have to keep not playing so much. Most of my problem is paying again for kitties that still want to play with bad feet.

Fortunately today it's just more super glue and a bit of sedative at most.
 

Red Squirrel

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First, a declaw will be cheaper than most spays unless subsidized.

Second, a couple weeks recovery is just INSANE for this.

I have owned a fucking ton of cats since I foster them.

Some want declaws some dont. I will cover it if they want it and I have no other adopters.

Most I have to keep not playing so much. Most of my problem is paying again for kitties that still want to play with bad feet.

Fortunately today it's just more super glue and a bit of sedative at most.

Well maybe it was longer, I don't recall 100%, but she was still a kitten so they heal faster. It's better if done young but obviously can't control that when adopting. They recover pretty fast either way from what I've been told.
 

alkemyst

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Well maybe it was longer, I don't recall 100%, but she was still a kitten so they heal faster. It's better if done young but obviously can't control that when adopting. They recover pretty fast either way from what I've been told.

I am hoping you mean shorter. I have had adult cats declawed too and none have had traumatic experiences. Some couldn't pick up some things, but they figured it out, then moved on playing with them.

My vet is an expert though. Lots of hacks out there that I have had to foster and get re-vetted.
 

Red Squirrel

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I am hoping you mean shorter. I have had adult cats declawed too and none have had traumatic experiences. Some couldn't pick up some things, but they figured it out, then moved on playing with them.

My vet is an expert though. Lots of hacks out there that I have had to foster and get re-vetted.

Well I honestly don't recall, maybe it actually was shorter. I just recall the recovery being much faster than I had expected and that was really my initial point. Some people think it's a very traumatic experience for cats but it's not that bad once they recover.
 

alkemyst

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Cats kill millions of song birds each year, pricks belong in prison.

Wow bro, I have a feral colony 30+ cats strong and birds steal their food.

We have birds singing morning and night at food time too often.

Just to tell you, the song bird arguement is by those that don't understand their argument but will fight till the death for it.
 

alkemyst

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Well I honestly don't recall, maybe it actually was shorter. I just recall the recovery being much faster than I had expected and that was really my initial point. Some people think it's a very traumatic experience for cats but it's not that bad once they recover.

I agree. I have seen cats with trauma from a declaw. It's always a bad vet. Unfortunately, there are a lot of bad vets and not much legal recourse.

I have saved maybe 100 pets now just hearing someone's vet told them their pet will die. I ask them to go to the guy I worked for and suddenly they are alive for years.

Sadly he is retiring.
 

Sluggo

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True Ferals can hunt, many give the feral name to pets. Most pets are as stupid as anyone at surviving the wild.

The humane society told us our cat (kitten at the time) came from a feral colony, but showed enough signs of domestication to be put up for adoption. We barely feed the thing, but its fat as crap. So either someone in the neighborhood leaves food out, or the cat finds enough field mice to become a glutton.