Castro dead?

[308nato]

I hope he's dead and things open up.....I want to get down ther and buy one of those cherry '55 Chevy's they drive around in.

 

[SickBeast]

Originally posted by: 308nato
I hope he's dead and things open up.....I want to get down ther and buy one of those cherry '55 Chevy's they drive around in.

Apparently they turn some of them into animorphous boats and try to 'drive' to Miami. :light:

 

[Vic]

Originally posted by: SickBeast

Originally posted by: Vic
Hmm... massive gap between rich and poor on one side, a dictator for life with scarecely token democracy and human rights abuses so bad that Amnesty International is banned from the country on the other. This is even a question for you?

Let's put perspective on this. Let us suppose that George Bush today implemented sweeping welfare reforms (hypothetically, bear with me). Universal health care, guaranteed jobs, redistributed wealth, the whole bit. There would still be social classes (just like there still is in Cuba) but the poor would be taken care of and the gap would be substantially reduced. But at the same time, supposed Bush outlawed all political parties but the Republican party, took over all the unions, took your land and banking accounts (as needed for redistribution), took over Congress and the courts, nationalized most industries, and established himself as President for life with his brother Jeb to succeed him upon his death, and anyone who publicly protested could be jailed and even executed.
Would you become a Bush supporter? Doesn't this sound like a fair trade off to you?

Oh yeah let's invent a hypothetical instead of properly refuting my statements.

You're obviously a right-wing extremist, or else a libertarian. Both movements don't believe in any form of social support. If you read some Ayn Rand stuff, you'll see how scary libertarianism is. She may be correct in stating that on a primal level we care about our own survival over that of our neighbours, but that doesn't mean that we should just leave the elderly, sick, and disabled to rot and die.

I was just illustrating a hypothetical example so you could (hopefully) see what an idiot you are being for apologizing for Castro's human rights abuses and lack of genuine democracy in his government.
So don't give me "OMG I must be part of this scary whatever" BS while you're right there defending and apologizing for the real murdering human rights abusing deal on the opposite side of the spectrum. You should take you own earlier advice about centrism.

In the meantime, I guess that means you wouldn't support Bush if he did all that, right? So WTF are you defending Castro here?

 

[imported_Lothar]

Originally posted by: Jaskalas

Originally posted by: GoPackGo
Sort of like the old soviet union....leader would be dead for weeks or more before it would be announced.

With the same contempt for human rights I hear.

Originally posted by: BoberFett
The Cuban embargo accomplished nothing positive for either country.

It stopped us from sponsoring, endorsing, and profiting from the abuse of human rights in Cuba. However eager you are to do so.

You mean you don't have a single "Made in China" product in your posession? :roll:

The computer you used to post was made in China.
Stop sponsoring, endorsing, and profiting from the abuse of human rights in China.

 

[ProfJohn]

Is he dead yet?

 

[imported_Lothar]

Originally posted by: bsobel
Well if true and with our elections, perhaps we can finally work towards normalizing our relations.

Only if Obama is elected in '08.

 

[imported_Tango]

Originally posted by: SickBeast

Originally posted by: heartsurgeon

I would venture a guess that most Cubans live a whole lot better than most Mexicans...

exactly what do you base this opinion upon?

Here's a link to one example...

I've been to Cuba but I will refrain from discussing what I saw there. I tend to get a ton of negative feedback whenever I talk about Cuba on here. People seem to pride themselves on the Cuban people suffering. Go figure. :roll:

I agree. Considering how long they have suffered the embargo, compounded by the systemic economic shock they suffered after the collapse of the soviet union they are doing incredibly well.

 

[eplebnista]

Originally posted by: SickBeast

Originally posted by: 308nato
I hope he's dead and things open up.....I want to get down ther and buy one of those cherry '55 Chevy's they drive around in.

Apparently they turn some of them into animorphous boats and try to 'drive' to Miami. :light:

:laugh:

 

[Nebor]

Originally posted by: bsobel
Well if true and with our elections, perhaps we can finally work towards normalizing our relations.

Relations shouldn't be normalized until Cuba entirely renounces communism\socialism.