Cash for appliances

[Modelworks]

Anyone know the date when this starts officially ? Says Oct 15 for filing, but is that the day it goes into effect ?

http://news.yahoo.com/s/bw/200...ug2009db20090821304909

A $300 million cash-for-clunkers-type federal program to boost sales of energy-efficient home appliances provides a glimmer of hope for beleaguered makers of washing machines and dishwashers, but it's probably not enough to lift companies such as Whirlpool (NYSE:WHR - News) and Electrolux out of the worst down cycle in the sector's history.

Beginning late this fall, the program authorizes rebates of $50 to $200 for purchases of high-efficiency household appliances. The money is part of the broader economic stimulus bill passed earlier this year. Program details will vary by state, and the Energy Dept. has set a deadline of Oct. 15 for states to file formal applications. The Energy Dept. expects the bulk of the $300 million to be awarded by the end of November. (Unlike the clunkers auto program, consumers won't have to trade in their old appliances.)

"These rebates will help families make the transition to more efficient appliances, making purchases that will directly stimulate the economy," Energy Secretary Steven Chu said in a statement announcing the plan. Only appliances covered by the Energy Star seal will qualify. In 2008, about 55% of newly produced major household appliances met those standards, which are set by the Energy Dept. and Environmental Protection Agency.

 

[sswingle]

Interesting. If we could get $200 back on a washer and dryer, that could be tempting.

 

[Red Squirrel]

haha I recently removed an OLD speed queen dryer from my house. Wonder if that would of counted. Had to bring it down to about 30 parts before it could go out the door.

 

[Jeff7]

I shall mention this to my landlord.

The washing machine is older than me (It's mid-to-late 70's at best), and the dryer, while newer, is still old. They both work, but, you know....they're old. Really really old.


Though I imagine that a lot of this "stimulation" is going to happen to large retailers, and moreso to China, where they do in fact manufacture real tangible things, with only 1% lead and melamine.

 

[Baked]

California and PG&E gives heavy cashback and incentives to home owners who install solar panels on their roof. The total out of pocket cost to the home owner is less than $4K. PG&E pays you back after a couple of months from the electricity you put back into the grid. I wanna do that to my house.

 

[r6ashih]

more info in this please!

Originally posted by: Baked
California and PG&E gives heavy cashback and incentives to home owners who install solar panels on their roof. The total out of pocket cost to the home owner is less than $4K. PG&E pays you back after a couple of months from the electricity you put back into the grid. I wanna do that to my house.

 

[SparkyJJO]

Oh, so MORE waste of taxpayer money? Awesome.

:disgust:

 

[Baked]

Originally posted by: r6ashih
more info in this please!

Originally posted by: Baked
California and PG&E gives heavy cashback and incentives to home owners who install solar panels on their roof. The total out of pocket cost to the home owner is less than $4K. PG&E pays you back after a couple of months from the electricity you put back into the grid. I wanna do that to my house.

http://www.pge.com/csi/

http://www.recsolar.com/cm/Loc...lar-rebates-homes.html

There you go.

 

[SonnyDaze]

OMG!! We're going to run out of money to stop global warming!!

 

[miketheidiot]

Originally posted by: Jeff7
I shall mention this to my landlord.

The washing machine is older than me (It's mid-to-late 70's at best), and the dryer, while newer, is still old. They both work, but, you know....they're old. Really really old.


Though I imagine that a lot of this "stimulation" is going to happen to large retailers, and moreso to China, where they do in fact manufacture real tangible things, with only 1% lead and melamine.

large things like this tend to be built 'locally'.

 

[DrPizza]

Wow, our washing machine is only a couple months old, but if the price is right, I'd be tempted to switch to a new set of front loaders.

 

[waggy]

hmm i have fridge in the Garage i wouldnt mind upgradeing. getting $200 would be a temptation.

 

[endervalentine]

Originally posted by: Baked
California and PG&E gives heavy cashback and incentives to home owners who install solar panels on their roof. The total out of pocket cost to the home owner is less than $4K. PG&E pays you back after a couple of months from the electricity you put back into the grid. I wanna do that to my house.

Do you have any more info on that? Last time I checked it took a few years to break even.

 

[Jeff7]

Originally posted by: miketheidiot
large things like this tend to be built 'locally'.

Most likely, "Made in USA of parts Made in China."

Better than nothing, I guess.

 

[Modelworks]

This does not require a trade in.
You go to the store and if the appliance is energy star rated then you get the rebate.

(Unlike the clunkers auto program, consumers won't have to trade in their old appliances.)

It is essentially a $200 cash back for buying a better appliance.

 

[amdskip]

If this is true the money will go to Mexico and wherever else appliances are made now, well a few here but not much. Such an oversight by the president...

 

[Modelworks]

Originally posted by: Jeff7

Originally posted by: miketheidiot
large things like this tend to be built 'locally'.

Most likely, "Made in USA of parts Made in China."

Better than nothing, I guess.

Not anymore

August 28th, 2009

Whirlpool Corp. announced Friday it will close its Evansville, Ind., factory next year, moving the plant's production of top-freezer refrigerators to a facility in Mexico.

Citing the need to trim manufacturing capacity, Whirlpool said the mid-2010 plant closure will eliminate 1,100 full-time jobs.

 

[zerocool84]

Originally posted by: amdskip
If this is true the money will go to Mexico and wherever else appliances are made now, well a few here but not much. Such an oversight by the president...

It's to stimulate the economy and get people more efficient appliances to use less resources just like the car one was. Not all cars that were eligible for the clunkers program were made in the USA.

 

[amdskip]

Originally posted by: zerocool84

Originally posted by: amdskip
If this is true the money will go to Mexico and wherever else appliances are made now, well a few here but not much. Such an oversight by the president...

It's to stimulate the economy and get people more efficient appliances to use less resources just like the car one was. Not all cars that were eligible for the clunkers program were made in the USA.

IMHO I drive a Honda but the big 3 should have been the only eligible manufacturers. I'm all for using less resources but why not add more stipulations and keep the money here?

 

[wiredspider]

Originally posted by: amdskip

Originally posted by: zerocool84

Originally posted by: amdskip
If this is true the money will go to Mexico and wherever else appliances are made now, well a few here but not much. Such an oversight by the president...

It's to stimulate the economy and get people more efficient appliances to use less resources just like the car one was. Not all cars that were eligible for the clunkers program were made in the USA.

IMHO I drive a Honda but the big 3 should have been the only eligible manufacturers. I'm all for using less resources but why not add more stipulations and keep the money here?

If I recall correctly, Honda and Toyota actually build their cars in US while the big 3 actually are built in Mexico or Canada...

 

[SparkyJJO]

Originally posted by: wiredspider

Originally posted by: amdskip

Originally posted by: zerocool84

Originally posted by: amdskip
If this is true the money will go to Mexico and wherever else appliances are made now, well a few here but not much. Such an oversight by the president...

It's to stimulate the economy and get people more efficient appliances to use less resources just like the car one was. Not all cars that were eligible for the clunkers program were made in the USA.

IMHO I drive a Honda but the big 3 should have been the only eligible manufacturers. I'm all for using less resources but why not add more stipulations and keep the money here?

If I recall correctly, Honda and Toyota actually build their cars in US while the big 3 actually are built in Mexico or Canada...

Too broad of a generalization. Honda and Toyota have some models built in the states. GM, Ford, Chrysler have many models built in the states too. Some of both are in Mexico and Canada. All of the major manufacturers have a mix of USA and non-USA built vehicles.

More US jobs are paid for by the purchase of a domestic vehicle than a foreign overall however. I saw the exact numbers a year or two ago, so I'm sure they have changed by now, but it was quite a large difference of total US workers involved in the making of a Toyota or Honda vs a GM (largest #), Ford, and Chrysler (smallest #). Would be interesting to look it up again and see how much of a change there has been.

 

[Homerboy]

bloody hell I JUST bought a new dishwasher to replace our old one (broken),.

 

[radioouman]

Vote YES for a cash for appliances program! (And at the time same you are voting for more taxes on energy!)

 

[manlymatt83]

Originally posted by: SparkyJJO
Oh, so MORE waste of taxpayer money? Awesome.

:disgust:

 

[HardcoreRobot]

how about i just keep my tax money and buy my own damn appliance? may as well just seal the deal and garnish the rest of my paycheck. prop up a few more failed businesses and give me the green items du jour i need to live.