Case too heavy to move, advice?

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BoomerD

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I love the people talking down to OP about not being able to carry a PC around. My rigs weighs over 80lbs. That is nothing little. Not to mention it is large enough it is awkward to carry.

Also, draining the water won't reduce the weight a significant amount. Water weighs 8lbs a gallon, and I'd wager there is less than a gallon in the system.

No one's talking down to the OP...oops, maybe I was. :p

BUT, come on...a "for real live GIRL" in the Anandtech forums...and apparently a gamer to boot? How unlikely is that? :biggrin: Those are "scarcer than hen's teeth!"

BUT, I know when and how to eat crow...Melty, since you apparently ARE a "12 year old girl," (or at least, "a scrawny twig of a woman") then once again, using technology is the best bet. It's POSSIBLE that with your case, those feet could be removed and some type of casters could be installed, OR, some type of dolly, whether the inexpensive one I linked to, or the not so inexpensive, but geekier one that aigomorla linked to could be used. (I think you'd still want to remove the case feet if you were going to leave the case on permanently, depending on the width of your case and the width of the dolly. )

OR, just "do the needful"...find yourself a big strong man to do it for you...:p
 

djnsmith7

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A 12 year old girl...I must have missed that part of the thread. Either way, I'm sure she has some guy friends who can carry a computer case. We're not trying to move the Empire State Building here, people.
 

Zap

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Depending on whether we believe what the OP wrote... the OP is heading to grad school.

That's one smart 12 year old.
 

Aikouka

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Should get a case like my Lian-Li PC series... they have wheels built in ;).

As a cheaper and easier solution, I'd do what Boomer mentioned and maybe consider straps too... you never know if you'll need to bring it up stairs and a dolly isn't going to really help you there.
 

keyed

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Like other's have said, buy a dolly and some appliance straps. If you're going to be moving, the dolly will come in handy, anyways.
 

BoomerD

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balloons. lots of balloons.

Hey...why not? It worked for Mr. Fredrickson...

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Manticorps

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You won't break "lan straps", and I would bet they would make things easier to carry. There have been several good ideas in this thread, and another might be something as simple as a "hand truck" or luggage dolly. Just pad your case with a blanket to protect from scratches when using it. Classmates, neighbors, new friends, etc could also be an option. The handle would give you some leverage and make it easier to wheel around. You could probably navigate stairs with it.

Something like this:http://www.amazon.com/Sparco-Easy-G...IM5M/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1296641330&sr=8-1
 
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deimos3428

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I'd see if it'd fit in a large suitcase w/wheels. Whether you drain the water first is your call.
 

clok1966

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Doubt OP is still reading, but wheels work great, get a set with locks and you will never go back (with a large case). Smal bit of work when installing but once done... make sure if you plan on rolling it any distance over rouhg ares you get some beefy ones. if its just for short distances there are many cheap smaller ones that should do the trick.
 

Cheesetogo

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At 16 I had basically no muscle mass, and I didn't have a terrible time moving my 70 lb system. I think you need to readjust your carrying technique.

I've always found LAN straps to be more difficult to use than just picking up the case from underneath.
 
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f4phantom2500

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call my crazy, but, you could get a lighter case, ditch the water cooling setup and go air...if you think you would lose out on "too much" performance from the lower overclocking headroom, use the money you'd get from selling your water cooling rig to upgrade your hardware.
 

FishAk

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I suppose the OPs not still reading this, but what video card is that? The case in the photo is virtually empty, and the only reason for the elaborate WC is for the graphics card. Why not upgrade to a card that doesn't have to work so hard, and won't get so hot, and buy an H50 or H70 for the CPU? This would allow you to go to a much smaller and lighter system without sacrificing function. I have 5, 3.5” disks, a 2.5” disk, and a 5.25” optical drive, along with 6 sticks of RAM, and a GTX 460 stuffed inside a case similar to the Rosewill R101-P-BK. It fits in a little suitcase with wheels and a handle that can go in the overhead compartment on a jet. Like f4phantom says, by selling the WC system and case, you could probably upgrade for little or no extra money.
 

aigomorla

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call my crazy, but, you could get a lighter case, ditch the water cooling setup and go air...if you think you would lose out on "too much" performance from the lower overclocking headroom, use the money you'd get from selling your water cooling rig to upgrade your hardware.

:thumbsdown:

Her water system will rock any air system out there especially when she has a radiator that large.

Hi all!
It's watercooled, with a 4x120 radiator mounted on top.

^ 4 x 120 = pwning Air...

Probably not. Typical of AnandTech Forums, a girl showed up and was immediately scared off.

Oh wait, this isn't Off Topic. :hmm:

actually female watercoolers are more hardcore then us males are.

Look at ruby, she's the only person. let alone female, who has dropped a h70 in a bucket of ice!
 

f4phantom2500

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:thumbsdown:

Her water system will rock any air system out there especially when she has a radiator that large.

that's pretty obvious...but when she can't even move the damn thing it's worth considering. besides, as i said, unless she has the highest end of hardware already, she can just get better hardware and get the same (or better) results on air, while being able to move it.

besides, i'd like to know exactly what she's doing that requires all of this performance...or hell even knowing what hardware she's running would be helpful. from what i've seen, you can run pretty much any game at any settings on air cooling, if you have good enough hardware (and this typically doesn't require a super ridiculous expensive rig).
 
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aigomorla

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that's pretty obvious...but when she can't even move the damn thing it's worth considering. besides, as i said, unless she has the highest end of hardware already, she can just get better hardware and get the same (or better) results on air, while being able to move it.

besides, i'd like to know exactly what she's doing that requires all of this performance...or hell even knowing what hardware she's running would be helpful. from what i've seen, you can run pretty much any game at any settings on air cooling, if you have good enough hardware (and this typically doesn't require a super ridiculous expensive rig).

lulz..

Meet Nadeshiko:

Tri loop system whole:
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Radiator chambers with 4 radiators:
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all of which fits in this big BOX. err Mountain mods case.
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Some people take computers as ART.
Its a hobby like Cars.. u dont need a 0-60 in sub 4 second car, yet we all want them.

You dont need 1000W stereo systems in cars, yet again we want them.

Its a branch of hobby... ;)


and as u can see, my case has rollers, so i roll it to its location.
 

f4phantom2500

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lulz..

Some people take computers as ART.
Its a hobby like Cars.. u dont need a 0-60 in sub 4 second car, yet we all want them.

You dont need 1000W stereo systems in cars, yet again we want them.

Its a branch of hobby... ;)


and as u can see, my case has rollers, so i roll it to its location.

idk, i personally don't see the point in putting that kind of effort/money into something that's going to be obsolete in a couple of years; the baggage just doesn't seem worth the effort. i suppose you could think of a computer as art, but first and foremost a computer is a tool. if you can get this tool to do everything you need it to do, then why bother with an expensive, cumbersome water cooling setup if you don't need it, especially when it causes you to lose the ability to move it? i mean, to each their own, and as has been suggested by many others, yourself included, she could probably just get some wheels on that thing and be good. that's probably the easiest solution for her at this point.

besides, again it really depends on what hardware she's currently running and what she's doing with the computer. as you implied, if she's already running the highest end hardware, then air isn't an option unless she's willing to sacrifice some performance (however marginal it may or may not be). but if it's not the highest end hardware, then i see this as a relatively inefficient solution and the computer is already on its way to garish obsolescence.
 

Rubycon

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:thumbsdown:

Look at ruby, she's the only person. let alone female, who has dropped a h70 in a bucket of ice!

Actually that was an H50. :p

The H70 does quite well on its own. :)

If I were allowed to do water cooling (the right way) I could only imagine what kind of system I'd have.

Proportional-Integral-Derivative (PID) controllers, custom swaged titanium plumbing in a premade manifold to connect directly to water blocks, scaled down Flotronic chillers with heaven knows what kind of compressor ratio controls. (both mechanical and electronic-active) Enthalpy control so the system can run below ambient and never worry about condensate. And it goes on and and on and on. :D
 

aigomorla

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idk, i personally don't see the point in putting that kind of effort/money into something that's going to be obsolete in a couple of years; the baggage just doesn't seem worth the effort.

but you see 90% of the water gear can be reused.

Your limited on gpu and motherboard when you look at full card and full board blocks.

Everything else u can take onto the new system... even cross platforms if you like.. from AMD -> Intel -> AMD.

The H2O gear follows the case.
 

BoomerD

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Actually that was an H50. :p

The H70 does quite well on its own. :)

If I were allowed to do water cooling (the right way) I could only imagine what kind of system I'd have.

Proportional-Integral-Derivative (PID) controllers, custom swaged titanium plumbing in a premade manifold to connect directly to water blocks, scaled down Flotronic chillers with heaven knows what kind of compressor ratio controls. (both mechanical and electronic-active) Enthalpy control so the system can run below ambient and never worry about condensate. And it goes on and and on and on. :D

You'd stuff a pipe through the hull and use direct flow seawater cooling...maybe plumb it through the galley's refrigeration section on the way...or through the ship's AC system...something along the lines of 100 GPM flow rate...:p
 

Rubycon

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You'd stuff a pipe through the hull and use direct flow seawater cooling...maybe plumb it through the galley's refrigeration section on the way...or through the ship's AC system...something along the lines of 100 GPM flow rate...:p

Closed systems are preferred actually. The double loop dealing with seawater to cool condensers is nasty. I'll leave that to the chiller guys. :p

If I could tap the 9°C chilled water lines...hehe talk about awesome!

They run about 60psi though. PC waterblocks probably cannot take that pressure without leaking. I would probably not use them anyways. :D

The chillers here push upwards of 5000 gpm.
 

Aikouka

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Actually that was an H50. :p

The H70 does quite well on its own. :)

Did you actually need that for a H50? I have one right now and it seems to perform well enough (and that's without a push-pull configuration).