Casablanca is the most overrated film in the history of cinema

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Linflas

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Originally posted by: badmouse
I like Casablanca, and I think the funny overacting and stuff is part of the appeal of the film. But, you don't like it, so what?

I think people who have to rank movies as "best of all time" and get everybody to agree with them before they like a movie, are silly. But that's just my opinion.

Agree with you about Titanic.

Titanic would have been a great movie if they had left out the fiction. As for the OP I disagree, I think Casablanca is one of the greats.
 

IronWing

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Originally posted by: Linflas

Titanic would have been a great movie if they had left out the fiction. As for the OP I disagree, I think Casablanca is one of the greats.


I caught the last half hour or so of Titanic. I really had no idea who the protagonists were or what the deal with the necklace was but I do know that by the time the damn ship finally sank I was cheering for the North Atlantic. Talk about overproduced, overacted, melodramatic nonsense, drown already.

On the otherhand, Casablanca is great.
 

BrokenVisage

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Originally posted by: eelw
Nah, the Matrix series is more so.

If I was a mod here you would be banned for saying such a thing. :|

Besides, how can it be overrated when almost everyone on here says they hated it?
 

Mucho

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Originally posted by: Doggiedog
I don't remember exactly what they were but Casablanca introduced many new filmmaking techniques that are in use today.

You are thinking about Citizen Kane, Casablanca is more or less a generational thing.
 

xSauronx

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Originally posted by: Random Variable
Anyone want to disagree with me?

Citizen Kane is far, far worse. i can watch casablanca. i turned off citizen kane and did laundry.

im a drycleaner, i deal with laundry all day, and i opted for more of it over that film. i think i slept during part of 2001. its nice that he wanted you to get how slow space travel and such is, but christ, it was boring.

Originally posted by: TheChort
the only reason it seems overrated to you now is because all the novel ideas/techniques that it introduced to the world of cinema have now become commonplace and cliche

do the movie a favor, and dont watch it again until you learn a little more about the historical context of cinema in the early 1940's


techniques dont make a movie good. ive heard that excuse numerous times, particularly in relation to citizen kane. wow, new techniques. ok, theyre not new anymore. kane is still boring. so is 2001. slightly interesting, entirely boring.

remember, star wars was using new effects when it came out. and remember, star wars is not the peak of cinema, and it has nothing to do with the fact that its old. the script is bad and so is most of the acting, but things blow up, theres magic, and you get to see laser-swords; so its endurable.

citizen kane prompted me to finish laundry, and 2001 made me go to sleep.

Originally posted by: ironwing
Originally posted by: Linflas

Titanic would have been a great movie if they had left out the fiction. As for the OP I disagree, I think Casablanca is one of the greats.

I do know that by the time the damn ship finally sank I was cheering for the North Atlantic.

:thumbsup:
 

DrPizza

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Originally posted by: ironwing
Originally posted by: Linflas

Titanic would have been a great movie if they had left out the fiction. As for the OP I disagree, I think Casablanca is one of the greats.


I caught the last half hour or so of Titanic. I really had no idea who the protagonists were or what the deal with the necklace was but I do know that by the time the damn ship finally sank I was cheering for the North Atlantic. Talk about overproduced, overacted, melodramatic nonsense, drown already.

On the otherhand, Casablanca is great.

Consider yourself lucky to have watched the only part of the movie that was worth watching - the last half hour or so. Trust me, despite the ratings, the first 2 hours of that movie were 100 times worse.

I had a couple others that I thought of as "most overrated film"; Pulp Fiction and Kill Bill came to mind almost immediately. But, Titanic wins by a longshot.
 

xSauronx

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Originally posted by: DrPizza
Originally posted by: ironwing
Originally posted by: Linflas

Titanic would have been a great movie if they had left out the fiction. As for the OP I disagree, I think Casablanca is one of the greats.


I caught the last half hour or so of Titanic. I really had no idea who the protagonists were or what the deal with the necklace was but I do know that by the time the damn ship finally sank I was cheering for the North Atlantic. Talk about overproduced, overacted, melodramatic nonsense, drown already.

On the otherhand, Casablanca is great.

Consider yourself lucky to have watched the only part of the movie that was worth watching - the last half hour or so. Trust me, despite the ratings, the first 2 hours of that movie were 100 times worse.

I had a couple others that I thought of as "most overrated film"; Pulp Fiction and Kill Bill came to mind almost immediately. But, Titanic wins by a longshot.

i liked 2 parts of pulp fiction:

where jackson asks for his wallet that said bad motherfvcker on it. i thought he was joking, it actually said it, i cracked up.

the part where theyre driving around town, hit a bump, and whoever blows the guys head off in the car. again, i cracked up.

i didnt even bother seeing kill bill
 

b0mbrman

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Originally posted by: EvilYoda
hehe, the previous 2 posts are exactly what I expected...someone's bound to think that the top classics aren't all that great.

I could personally sit down and watch those 3 movies any day of the week and still love it. (not all at the same time though...at least give me a nap before 2001 :p)

Same here...but there's a difference between something being watchable (even watchable any day of the week :Q) and being the greatest movie ever--a tag Casablanca and Citizen Kane have fought over for a while...
 

montanafan

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I loved Casablanca, but to get the real impact of it I think you have to view it in the context of the times. It was released during WWII and most people throughout the entire world were having to make some of the same difficult choices and facing many of the same losses as the characters in the movie at that time. It might sound cliche to say, but it did speak to them and for them.
 

CallMeJoe

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Casablanca and Citizen Kane are two of my favorite movies, along with Treasure of the Sierra Madre. I've never understood people who don't get them.


FWIW: William Randolph Hearst tried to get Citizen Kane killed, because he didn't like Orson Welles' portrayal of his character in the film. Welles got the last laugh - not only is it considered one of the great movies of the era, but he drove Hearst mad with the "Rosebud" line. It seems that "Rosebud" was Hearst's nickname for his mistress' privates.
 

Pocatello

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I love Casablanca, but I could never watch Citizen Kane for more than 5 minutes without turning the TV off.
 

JLGatsby

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Most old films suck. The scenes are slow and boring, the actors aren't that great and they're very melodramatic.

Movies like Casablanca are only good for nostalgic value.
 

LordMaul

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Originally posted by: JLGatsby
Most old films suck. The scenes are slow and boring, the actors aren't that great and they're very melodramatic.

Movies like Casablanca are only good for nostalgic value.

Phew. For a second there, I was thinking we weren't going to get your opinion. Thanks for clearing things up.
 

sundev

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Titanic, and I'm going to get slammed for saying this, but LOTR (all of them, but #3 in particular).

Sorry, those two films should not have tied Ben Hur for the most Academy Awards of all time... I mean, there were CLEARLY better movies out that should have won best picture in both 1997 and 2003 (LA Confidential, Good Will Hunting, As Good As It Gets all far better than Titanic, and Mystic River, Seabiscuit far better than Return of the King).
 

JulesMaximus

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Originally posted by: Random Variable
Anyone want to disagree with me?

Yes, I'd like to disagree with you. It is certainly not overrated.

Watch it again after you grow a few pubic hairs. It will make more sense to you when you grow up.
 

kogase

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Originally posted by: JLGatsby
Most old films suck. The scenes are slow and boring, the actors aren't that great and they're very melodramatic.

Movies like Casablanca are only good for nostalgic value.

I agree, most old American movies suck. Russian movies on the other hand... watch Happiness (not Tod Solondz).