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Carson: Theory Of Evolution Encouraged By The Devil

I can't understand why so many are still against the theory of evolution. The amount of religious people who do believe in it are actually quite high, but people like Carson, someone who is highly educated and should know better, still doesn't believe in it. Good think science doesn't take someone's beliefs into whether or not it is right.
 
Strk said:
I can't understand why so many are still against the theory of evolution. The amount of religious people who do believe in it are actually quite high, but people like Carson, someone who is highly educated and should know better, still doesn't believe in it. Good think science doesn't take someone's beliefs into whether or not it is right.
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He saw a big boost in fundraising after his Muslim comment, so I'd say he's doubling down on that demographic.

Edit: whoa, should have read the article first. His comments from 2012 are just crazy town. Scientists do not at all believe that the universe is 'perfectly ordered.'
 
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I used to know a woman (indirectly) who thought that Satan was her personal tormentor. And even though a few milligrams of haldol was incredibly effect at banishing the evil one, she would always find excuses to go off her meds - I guess so she could do battle with Satan.

I try to be tolerant of most religious beliefs even some of the really stupid fundamentalist shit, but as soon as someone starts talking about Satan like he's a real entity, that ought to be grounds for committal.

Satan doesn't even appear in the bible in his present form as a tempter of souls until the Revelation of John, which was barely allowed into the canon in the 4th century because it is such a late work. But despite barely being mentioned in either the old or new testaments, this cartoon character has a central place in the lives of most fundamentalists. Truly bizarre.
 
I like Ben Carson, but scientists have proved that the universe is expanding, if it's not kind of explosion, then it must be god who is blowing wind.
 
I'll bet Carson has no doubts about the science behind the advanced technology he used to perform brain surgery. But of course that same scientific approach, when it leads to - among other things - the Big Bang theory is just a "fairy tale pushed by highfalutin scientists."
 
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Charmonium said:
I try to be tolerant of most religious beliefs even some of the really stupid fundamentalist shit, but as soon as someone starts talking about Satan like he's a real entity, that ought to be grounds for committal.
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What's the difference between believing Satan is real and believing god is real?
 
mxnerd said:
I like Ben Carson, but scientists have proved that the universe is expanding, if it's not kind of explosion, then it must be god who is blowing wind.
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Scientists have also proven beyond any doubt that we can see light that originated from more than 6,000 light years away (and they've also proven the exact speed at which light travels), therefore there is no doubt that the universe is more than 6,000 years old. Or that it is less than 13 billion years old for that matter.
 
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my old roommate used to be a republican. Hes very religious but hes also a scientist. I think he made the switch around 2008 or so to dem. He just could no longer support a party that appeals to such stupidity.
 
GagHalfrunt said:
What's the difference between believing Satan is real and believing god is real?
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Nothing really.

Pitting one against the other is the whole basis of a religion to begin with.

"You do this your good, you do that your bad."

Always portray the people with opposing views as the Devil, it's worked since people became smart enough to create religions apparently for monetary gain and civil rights suppression for thousands of years now in general, apparently.
 
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Vic said:
Scientists have also proven beyond any doubt that we can see light that originated from more than 6,000 light years away (and also they've also proven the exact speed at which light travels), therefore there is no doubt that the universe is more than 6,000 years old. Or that it is less than 13 billion years old for that matter.
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that to is a trick of the devil.
 
GagHalfrunt said:
What's the difference between believing Satan is real and believing god is real?
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An all-powerful God that is both good and evil can be explained with some logic, but an all-powerful God (who is wholly good) and Satan existing together is simply so illogical as to be irrational.
 
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There is not a single GOP candidate I could vote for. Last time at least they had Huntsman who wasn't completely batshit insane.
 
GagHalfrunt said:
What's the difference between believing Satan is real and believing god is real?
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Not much when you really get right down to it. But religion, or at least a belief in the supernatural seems to be hardwired into the human species. You find evidence of it going well beyond the beginning of written history.

For a monotheistic god, you at least have a few millenia of history to support the idea. Yeah, that doesn't really count for squat, but if when you're trying to measure levels of ridiculousness, you take your yardsticks where you can find them.
 
Vic said:
An all-powerful God that is both good and evil can be explained with some logic, but an all-powerful God (who is wholly good) and Satan existing together is simply so illogical as to be irrational.
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The Deathbird

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Deathbird

http://www.amazon.com/Deathbird-Stories-Harlan-Ellison/dp/1497642957

Haven't even read that thing in ages, I think I gave it away at one time for someone to read and never got it back.

“Men rarely (if ever) manage to dream up a god superior to themselves. Most gods have the manners and morals of a spoiled child.” —Robert Heinlein, 1973
 
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JSt0rm said:
my old roommate used to be a republican. Hes very religious but hes also a scientist. I think he made the switch around 2008 or so to dem. He just could no longer support a party that appeals to such stupidity.
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It is scary how pervasive the stupid is with the GOP on this one. It is sad too, since a lot of religious people (and mind you, I'm an atheist) do believe in evolution and that the universe is actually quite a bit older than 6,000 years. Even Pat Robertson said people need to cut the crap on that one.
 
I just watched the video of him talking about the Big Bang and other theories of physics.

The man is so badly uninformed he's dangerous. He "disproves" conservation of angular momentum by pointing out that some moons orbit their planets in a direction opposite most other moons. Wow. Genius!

He "disproves" the principle of increasing entropy be claiming that the universe if obviously "ordered," because (he claims) how could science possibly make many accurate predictions about what will happen decades in advance if the universe wasn't amazingly well ordered?

Ben. Ben! BEN!!!!!

Listen: You're talking out of both sides of your mouth at the same time. You're in essence claiming that physicists are full of shit because their theories are able to model the universe too accurately. Yes, really. You're telling us that you don't believe their theories because their theories are very accurate.
 
Strk said:
It is scary how pervasive the stupid is with the GOP on this one. It is sad too, since a lot of religious people (and mind you, I'm an atheist) do believe in evolution and that the universe is actually quite a bit older than 6,000 years. Even Pat Robertson said people need to cut the crap on that one.
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Well, there comes a point where you at least have to admit that the interpretation of the book was wrong.
 
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