Cars that you assumed got good gas mileage ... but really don't

dud

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Please list one vehicle that you just assumed got good gas mileage yet let you down when you learned the facts.

My vote goes for the Scion XB, I am sitting here, surfing the net and a Scion commercial for the XB comes on. I was amazed to find that the combined MPG for the car (with a 2.4L 4 cyl) is only 24 MPG. I had never considered buying an XB because they looked so awfully ugly but assumed that others had bought one because they got great mileage ... they do not. This truly ugly vehicle (with a 4 cylinder engine) gets only 5 MPG more then my V-8 powered Lexus. In passing this begs tthe question as to why anyone would buy it. I'm sure some people find the car endearing ... but I thought blind people could not legally drive.
 

AnnonUSA

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Well the mileage of the XB is not surprising, what would you expect with the aerodynamics of a brick?
 

sdifox

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Originally posted by: iamwiz82
The RX-8 is stunningly bad

Who assumed it gets good mileage? It's been known for ages that rotary sucks gas :)
 

MikeMike

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Originally posted by: Fmr12B
Originally posted by: LTC8K6
Pontiac Solstice 2.4L

Rather absurd the 2.0L Ecotec turbo with almost 100hp more gets better mileage!

turbo chargers and DI will do that...

the 3.6l 270hp V6 in the CTS gets worse gas mileage than the 306hp 3.6l V6 in the CTS
 

heymrdj

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My Expedition mileage is actually better than listed lol. 17mpg hand calculated 200miles at 78mph.

As for one that I thought would do good Honda Accord. Thing only gets 6mpg more than my SUV, and my Eddie Bauer SUV is sure a hell of alot more comfortable and more fun to drive.
 

LTC8K6

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Rather absurd the 2.0L Ecotec turbo with almost 100hp more gets better mileage!

The G6 with the same 2.4L engine and a 4 speed auto does considerably better...
 

makken

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Honda S2000.
It's small and light with a 2.0L i4. Guess it's not geared for economy ;)
 

overst33r

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Originally posted by: makken
Honda S2000.
It's small and light with a 2.0L i4. Guess it's not geared for economy ;)

I was under the same impression...

With that said, the EPA estimates are a complete joke. One can easily achieve 110% the hwy number with mixed driving.

Same goes for Miatas...
 

IronWing

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Aveo

Crappy little car that gets 24mph (at least that is what we got on the rental we had).
 

Throckmorton

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Originally posted by: mariok2006
Originally posted by: makken
Honda S2000.
It's small and light with a 2.0L i4. Guess it's not geared for economy ;)

I was under the same impression...

With that said, the EPA estimates are a complete joke. One can easily achieve 110% the hwy number with mixed driving.

Same goes for Miatas...

Miatas aren't very aerodynamic. The popup headlights, convertible top, and notchy hardtop make a lot of drag for a little car. I bought a 1996 today... I'm also surprised by the rpms! It spins over 3000rpm at 60mph. Yet they achieve 30mpg highway! I'm going to do some aero modding like these guys http://www.gassavers.org/forumdisplay.php?f=11
 

thomsbrain

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Originally posted by: heymrdj
My Expedition mileage is actually better than listed lol. 17mpg hand calculated 200miles at 78mph.

As for one that I thought would do good Honda Accord. Thing only gets 6mpg more than my SUV, and my Eddie Bauer SUV is sure a hell of alot more comfortable and more fun to drive.

Are you comparing it to some ancient model or something?

I usually got 25 MPG in my '91 Accord, but my '03 V6 Accord will do roughly 35 MPG highway (that's more than double your mileage), and it is a hell of a lot more comfortable than any Expedition, and a HELL of a lot more fun to drive. The current 4-cylinders get even better mileage, of course.

As for the original question:

Smart
 

dud

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Originally posted by: ironwing
Aveo

Crappy little car that gets 24mph (at least that is what we got on the rental we had).


Edmunds lists the average MPG of the car at 30 for the manual. Shockingly low for such a small, sad car. This is much more surpring then my vote (the Scion Xb).
 

IronWing

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Originally posted by: dud
Originally posted by: ironwing
Aveo

Crappy little car that gets 24mph (at least that is what we got on the rental we had).


Edmunds lists the average MPG of the car at 30 for the manual. Shockingly low for such a small, sad car. This is much more surpring then my vote (the Scion Xb).

We saw no where near 30 mph over the course of two weeks of mixed urban/highway driving. The one we had rented was probably an 2007 model. Maybe it had to do with the high quality maintenance regiment likely employed by the rental company.
 

thecoolnessrune

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Originally posted by: thomsbrain
Originally posted by: heymrdj
My Expedition mileage is actually better than listed lol. 17mpg hand calculated 200miles at 78mph.

As for one that I thought would do good Honda Accord. Thing only gets 6mpg more than my SUV, and my Eddie Bauer SUV is sure a hell of alot more comfortable and more fun to drive.

Are you comparing it to some ancient model or something?

I usually got 25 MPG in my '91 Accord, but my '03 V6 Accord will do roughly 35 MPG highway (that's more than double your mileage), and it is a hell of a lot more comfortable than any Expedition, and a HELL of a lot more fun to drive. The current 4-cylinders get even better mileage, of course.

As for the original question:

Smart

I think both my brother and you are passing around absurd statements. I think you have a point on gas mileage. More comfortable than an Expedition? Excuse me while I sit here and laugh my ass off. Is your expedition from 1997 or something? I drove an '07 Accord and the thing is paltry in comparison to being able to relax in our '04 Expedition.

And fun to drive should be well known that is relative. An accord is far more agile than an expedition. But its still a basic relatively uninspiring car. An expedition has all the agility and cunning of a block of cheese grating across an interstate, but if you're the type who gets their jollies out of taking a vehicle that is meant to do hardly more than a straight line and seeing how far you can push it till you kill yourself, that might just be a better adventure for you.

The "Hands down this is better because I said it is" mentality of this forum is the most ridiculous part of its structure.
 

Throckmorton

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Originally posted by: heymrdj
My Expedition mileage is actually better than listed lol. 17mpg hand calculated 200miles at 78mph.

As for one that I thought would do good Honda Accord. Thing only gets 6mpg more than my SUV, and my Eddie Bauer SUV is sure a hell of alot more comfortable and more fun to drive.

An Expedition is fun to drive??
 

evident

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smart. that thing should get 60 mpg, instead it uses premium and gives you nothing close to that