Careless teens finally take out the telephone pole.

FelixDeCat

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This morning a car packed with teens ran a stop sign, lost control and swerved too late to miss a telephone pole that appeared out of nowhere. Thankfully no one was injured. The cops, a tow truck and alternate rides soon showed up. Also, our power is not out for a day or two as its the neigbors pole (whose car was narrowly missed by the mayhem).

Despite tightening restrictions in several states, including Texas, Im still bewildered as to why teens are allowed to drive. Admittedly I was a poor driver when I was a teen and had my fair share of accidents, but that was then and this is now. Why are teens allowed to drive? :hmm:

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dank69

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This morning a car packed with teens ran a stop sign, lost control and swerved too late to miss a telephone pole that appeared out of nowhere. Thankfully noone was injured. The cops, a tow truck and alternite rides soon showed up. Also, our power is not out for a day or two as its the neigbors pole (whose car was narrowly missed by the mayhem).

Despite tightening restrictions in several states, including Texas, Im still bewildered as to why teens are allowed to drive. Admittedly I was a poor driver when I was a teen and had my fair share of accidents, but that was then and this is now. Why are teens allowed to drive? :hmm:

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Why would you be thankful that Peter Noone was hurt? That isn't very christian of you...
 

sdifox

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drunk? dude leaning on the car doesn't really look drunk to me. How do you do that without being impaired?
 

Newbian

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Wait until their parents get the bill for the repairs on the pole if they didn't have decent insurance.
 

FelixDeCat

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drunk? dude leaning on the car doesn't really look drunk to me. How do you do that without being impaired?

No, I dont think so. But stop signs obviously dont mean anything anymore. I hate when people run them. :mad:
 

rasczak

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the growing pains of the teenage driver. i remember taking out a gas station pump when i first started driving. :awe:
 

dfuze

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Wait until their parents get the bill for the repairs on the pole if they didn't have decent insurance.

You're right, those poles are expensive!

While not all teen drivers are like the ones in the story, too many of them are.
 

Lifted

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Those Camaros were old $2,000 beaters almost 15 - 20 years ago when my friends were first getting cars. Amazing that they are still around and getting abused by teens.
 

Regs

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Some over generalization. I've seen many people older than their teens get into accidents. Some are not even retarded or blind.
 

destrekor

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Here in Ohio, if the driver is under 18, there can be no more than one passenger under 18. Something about distractions.

Personally, the way I see it, the earlier you start driving, the better you can become. It gets ingrained in your still-maturing brain, the whole concoction just has to be nurtured along the right way. If you start driving well into adulthood, you may have a brain that is no longer developing, and now has no high-speed experience to reflect upon. (the decision-making center of your brain continues to develop well into the early-to-mid twenties)

Now, if it's handled wrong from the start, the brain may learn terrible decisions as having been correctly handled, but if handled right, it can nurture the development of important experiences that will set an individual on the right path to good-driving.

Of course, it might be rare that someone ends up a good driver when they are an adult... fuck, we all know how rare the good-driving species has become.

Think how often teens make mistakes - I say, you really cannot become good at anything, until you learn from mistakes. If you get away with never making a mistake, eventually you'll find yourself in a situation where experience is necessary, or an abundance of amazing luck.

If you make mistakes during the best time to make mistakes, when your brain is still developing/maturing, you have a better chance of coming out on top. That is, if you find out how to teach yourself most effectively.
Teen drivers make mistakes, but they really have to make them sometime. And the parents will say, a good mistake is one where nobody gets hurt and the driver learns. Hopefully that little punk learned.

I had lost control numerous times, in a few different conditions, and escaped physical injury or vehicular damage. Sometimes it takes a few "oops" to really learn the ins-and-outs of a specific vehicle, which is something that you must know imho; not knowing every single little piece of information about your vehicle, at least in terms of how it performs and controls, is asking for serious trouble. You should know how to translate the language of the steering wheel into knowledge of exactly what the wheels are doing, for instance. Then again, some factory decisions, like the level of dampening in the shocks and specifics of the automatic steering system, can make this extremely difficult on some vehicles; if you can't feel potholes, you can't accurately judge your state of grip.
 
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dug777

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I love the angst here when they get an 'at cost' bill for the repair of the power poles ;)

You broke it, you pay for it, and be thankful you're not getting hit for damages for the losses of the businesses you cut off in the interim ;)
 

SarcasticDwarf

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Here in Ohio, if the driver is under 18, there can be no more than one passenger under 18. Something about distractions.

Personally, the way I see it, the earlier you start driving, the better you can become. It gets ingrained in your still-maturing brain, the whole concoction just has to be nurtured along the right way. If you start driving well into adulthood, you may have a brain that is no longer developing, and now has no high-speed experience to reflect upon. (the decision-making center of your brain continues to develop well into the early-to-mid twenties)

I started driving at 15 and had a full license at 16. Just before I turned 18 I moved to a state that was 18 for the full license. It seemed to me that people who started driving later were much more careful, but only because the car was more of a tool to be used vs. an extension of their body. Adverse situations tended to throw them for a loop. Part of it is experience, but I think a large part of it is whether driving is just a normal part of everyday life that you don't even think about it. For comparison, look at how those of us in our late 20's that didn't have cell phones until late in high school use them vs. how those just now in high school use them.
 

FelixDeCat

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Here in Ohio, if the driver is under 18, there can be no more than one passenger under 18. Something about distractions.

Personally, the way I see it, the earlier you start driving, the better you can become. It gets ingrained in your still-maturing brain, the whole concoction just has to be nurtured along the right way. If you start driving well into adulthood, you may have a brain that is no longer developing, and now has no high-speed experience to reflect upon. (the decision-making center of your brain continues to develop well into the early-to-mid twenties)

Now, if it's handled wrong from the start, the brain may learn terrible decisions as having been correctly handled, but if handled right, it can nurture the development of important experiences that will set an individual on the right path to good-driving.

Of course, it might be rare that someone ends up a good driver when they are an adult... fuck, we all know how rare the good-driving species has become.

Think how often teens make mistakes - I say, you really cannot become good at anything, until you learn from mistakes. If you get away with never making a mistake, eventually you'll find yourself in a situation where experience is necessary, or an abundance of amazing luck.

If you make mistakes during the best time to make mistakes, when your brain is still developing/maturing, you have a better chance of coming out on top. That is, if you find out how to teach yourself most effectively.
Teen drivers make mistakes, but they really have to make them sometime. And the parents will say, a good mistake is one where nobody gets hurt and the driver learns. Hopefully that little punk learned.

I had lost control numerous times, in a few different conditions, and escaped physical injury or vehicular damage. Sometimes it takes a few "oops" to really learn the ins-and-outs of a specific vehicle, which is something that you must know imho; not knowing every single little piece of information about your vehicle, at least in terms of how it performs and controls, is asking for serious trouble. You should know how to translate the language of the steering wheel into knowledge of exactly what the wheels are doing, for instance. Then again, some factory decisions, like the level of dampening in the shocks and specifics of the automatic steering system, can make this extremely difficult on some vehicles; if you can't feel potholes, you can't accurately judge your state of grip.

I agree with you as my experience was the same. You had to push the car to its limits before you learned they werent indestructible and had my fair share of accidents. But these days, I say let them eat cake.....and use simulators. Why does the public have to pay for their "learning experience" in property damage and lives? Why?! :eek: