Card for a new build

[jabroni619]

Lots of new monitors coming in the next year with HDR being the next big thing. I would definitely wait for AMD since they support the more affordable Freesync. G-sync is a rip off.

It is indeed more affordable. But it's also not as good.

 

[nenforcer]

AMD is targeting the midrage with Polaris 10 and 11 which will all be less than $350 while nVidia is starting at the high end first with GTX 1070 at $380 ($450 Founders edition) and GTX 1080 at $600 ($700 Founders edition).

Like others have suggested you could also consider a used GTX 980 4GB or used Radeon R9 390 8GB as those should both be $300 or less once the firesale starts for the new cards.

 

[Despoiler]

Wait until June 10 and pick up a GTX 1070 for $379.

Literally he worst advice here. Performance is an unknown and $379 will not be the initial price because FE releases first. FE being $449.

 

[jabroni619]

Literally he worst advice here. Performance is an unknown and $379 will not be the initial price because FE releases first. FE being $449.

We have an idea what the performance is and in June we'll know for sure so half the reasons why you think it's the worst advise won't even exist which seems like it's pretty good advise considering. Even if you don't opt to buy one, you'll know what your options are.

 

[Michael]

Lots of new GTX 970 and R9 390 for $300 (sales and rebates even lower). So plenty of options for me if I want something sooner. I don't think I even want to go as high as $380 for the first edition 1070 and that will be a little while longer.

The amd cards have 8GB and there really is not a huge difference between the 970 and 390 in many benchmarks.

This thread has been quite helpful, even with the arguing because it has forced people to defend their positions.

Michael

 

[Michael]

The new AMD card at $200 looks like it is about right. All the R9 390 cards except for one are over 11" which is what my case fits without removing a HD cage.

I could have waited a month, I guess, as that is when the new cards from both players will be really available.

Michael

 

[Thinker_145]

The new AMD card at $200 looks like it is about right. All the R9 390 cards except for one are over 11" which is what my case fits without removing a HD cage.

I could have waited a month, I guess, as that is when the new cards from both players will be really available.

Michael

The $200 card won't be equal to the 390 even if it's slightly faster due to only 4GB. For 390 level performance minimum you would need to spend $230 so you would have saved $70 presuming you got a 390 for $300.

Now if the 480 ends up being noticeably better than the 390 well we can't say anything about that right now.

 

[Bacon1]

The $200 card won't be equal to the 390 even if it's slightly faster due to only 4GB. For 390 level performance minimum you would need to spend $230 so you would have saved $70 presuming you got a 390 for $300.

Now if the 480 ends up being noticeably better than the 390 well we can't say anything about that right now.

Thats not true, only if its limited by 4gb will 4v8 matter. 980 only has 4GB and is equal to the 390x.

The 8GB models are for those that want to CFX them to run into memory limitations or want to "future proof" their card more.

 

[Michael]

The other advantage is less power and a shorter card. So I do not use use of. My middle HD case.

I would get the 8GB version, and still save money over the current generation. Or I can drop $700 plus tax and get the top end 1080 ...

I also see that I will need three DisplayPort monitors or shell out for active adapters which are close to $20 each.

Michael

 

[Thinker_145]

Thats not true, only if its limited by 4gb will 4v8 matter. 980 only has 4GB and is equal to the 390x.

The 8GB models are for those that want to CFX them to run into memory limitations or want to "future proof" their card more.

I'll get a 390X over a 980 in a heartbeat. VRAM bottleneck is a pretty ugly thing and it will happen with 4GB cards sooner or later.

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[tential]

The $200 card won't be equal to the 390 even if it's slightly faster due to only 4GB. For 390 level performance minimum you would need to spend $230 so you would have saved $70 presuming you got a 390 for $300.

Now if the 480 ends up being noticeably better than the 390 well we can't say anything about that right now.

I remember when gtx 960s close to 200 were good deals because you didn't need more than 2gb vram for 1080p gaming. Now 4gb isn't enough in the 200 market and 8gb is required....

 

[exar333]

I remember when gtx 960s close to 200 were good deals because you didn't need more than 2gb vram for 1080p gaming. Now 4gb isn't enough in the 200 market and 8gb is required....

I might say 6GB is 'required' but we will probably see more 4/8 options due to configuration. I agree though, 4GB would only be on my list for a sub $150 card. Anyone else paying close to $200 or more should shoot for 8GB. Coders are using the framebuffer like no tomorrow, and consoles have more than 4GB free (generally) so 6/8GB is ideal IMHO.

 

[Thinker_145]

I remember when gtx 960s close to 200 were good deals because you didn't need more than 2gb vram for 1080p gaming. Now 4gb isn't enough in the 200 market and 8gb is required....

Since the dawn of PC gaming people have concentrated way too much on what GPU is needed "now" conveniently forgetting how quickly the requirements shoot up.

And understand the context here I never said 4GB is bad value at $200. The OP said he regrets buying a 390 as he could have gotten a GPU for $200 that performs same. I simply said there a 4GB card is not preferable over an 8GB one even if it's slightly faster.



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[boozzer]

I guess I'll have a fast CPU, fast RAM and a fast SSD coupled with the built in intel GPU for a bit.

Michael

smart. at the very least you should wait for polaris benchmarks. you can safely ignore all who tells you to buy before then.

 

[SolMiester]

When members ask for advice and you respond this way, you are doing them a great disservice. Why would you do this?

You give a much higher price [$379 vs $300]that might not even be true at release.
You are estimating the performance of your recommended card.

Every single so called ADF member has recommended nvidia cards in the past if they see a benefit to it for the user. This blind recommendation, by you, of the Nvidia 1070 shows that you only care about promoting Nvidia at everyone else's expense. Members request advice and get an answer not in their best interest.

If you don't know the performance of the soon to be released cards, then tell them wait and see which will be the best for their money. That answer, is in the member's interest and is the only honest answer.



To the OP, Michael, please wait a few weeks, if possible, to see what is available. You will have a choice of several new generation cards of varying prices and performance levels. Perf/$ will be better than present choices.

Perhaps it is the opinion of those so called ADF members, that the NV product is better!
They do usually perform better, quieter and cooler.