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Carbice Ice Pad

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Sucks that we can't have it 🙁
 
Sent an email to gamersnexus requesting to get their hands on a system to test this thing.

Appreciate if others will do the same.

I find it really sad that in 2025, there is still no manufacturer approved way of doing direct die cooling. You have to accept the risk of delidding.

Intel and AMD really do need to do better. It would lead to less bulky heatsinks and AIO coolers due to lower cooling requirements and everyone will be able to get the performance they paid for, rather than spending extra and going to great lengths to tame the CPU's heat output.
 
igor_kavinski said:
Sent an email to gamersnexus requesting to get their hands on a system to test this thing.

Appreciate if others will do the same.

I find it really sad that in 2025, there is still no manufacturer approved way of doing direct die cooling. You have to accept the risk of delidding.

Intel and AMD really do need to do better. It would lead to less bulky heatsinks and AIO coolers due to lower cooling requirements and everyone will be able to get the performance they paid for, rather than spending extra and going to great lengths to tame the CPU's heat output.
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What? Since when does having a heatspreader increase the thermal output of a chip?

*by a meaningful amount that would cause you to need a physically larger cooler
 
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igor_kavinski said:
I was thinking along the lines of the IHS trapping the heat within its confines and leading to heat buildup.
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Outside the slightly higher temps from the increased thermal resistance leading to slightly higher leakage and therefore slightly higher current/power consumption, it doesnt make the CPU generate any other meaningful amount more heat over time.

Temps would be lower but the CPU is still going to generate a similar heat load, meaning you can't really downsize the cooler. If the CPU uses 200 watts, you still need a cooler capable of dissipating 200 watts, direct die or not.

The reason you see CPUs overclocking farther or using less power when someone delids is because they use the decreased temp to lower voltages further in either their static OC or their CO. A stock CPU will behave the same and draw similar power either way, requiring the same cooler.

Not to mention people who delid tend to already have substantially overkill coolers and try to go for max overclocks, further distorting the usefulness of delidding in a vacuum/on a stock CPU.
 
Where do I see that the Carbice Ice Pad needs de-lidding? Isn't this just a pad you lay on top of your IHS -- integrated heat spreader of your CPU? And . . . . it's significantly more effective than LIQUID METAL??!!

So why can we not "get" them -- acquire them -- buy them?

What did I miss?
 
BonzaiDuck said:
Where do I see that the Carbice Ice Pad needs de-lidding? Isn't this just a pad you lay on top of your IHS -- integrated heat spreader of your CPU? And . . . . it's significantly more effective than LIQUID METAL??!!

So why can we not "get" them -- acquire them -- buy them?

What did I miss?
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Just the obligatory daily Igor lamenting that manufacturer's don't sacrifice all safety and reliability features to give only the most hardcore enthusiasts what they want.

I have a suspicion they are doing a few things by only offering it through a small PC OEM.

  • Testing the market
  • Testing the product in the wild with a small sample set
  • Controlling the variables, e.g. cooler coldplate shape and smoothness, mounting pressure, application, etc.
I feel like either it delivers everything they claim or it doesn't, and they're missing a big opportunity by not selling it directly to consumers. Either they aren't confident it actually delivers everything they claim or they're extremely risk averse.
 
Hail The Brain Slug said:
Just the obligatory daily Igor lamenting that manufacturer's don't sacrifice all safety and reliability features to give only the most hardcore enthusiasts what they want.

I have a suspicion they are doing a few things by only offering it through a small PC OEM.

  • Testing the market
  • Testing the product in the wild with a small sample set
  • Controlling the variables, e.g. cooler coldplate shape and smoothness, mounting pressure, application, etc.
I feel like either it delivers everything they claim or it doesn't, and they're missing a big opportunity by not selling it directly to consumers. Either they aren't confident it actually delivers everything they claim or they're extremely risk averse.
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Well. Keep an eye peeled for ground-breaking mind-bending wonderful s***.

I'm still getting together a parts list, with input from igor to be sure. I was starting to lean in the Liquid Metal direction, such that it would not be applied to anything at any time earlier than December. Recently successful Win 11 in-place/repair-upgrades may further relax my PC-building efforts.

The parts-list itself is an ongoing project. But I've resolved the panic over the Win10 October 14 cataclysm. And to repeat a remark by igor, it's not a really great time to pick a processor from either of the duopolies of chip-dom.
 
Hail The Brain Slug said:
Just the obligatory daily Igor lamenting that manufacturer's don't sacrifice all safety and reliability features to give only the most hardcore enthusiasts what they want.
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Well, the Intel K and AMD X series are for enthusiasts so engineers should think of better ways to satisfy us 🙂

Their approach of one size fits all (like the cooler must be compatible from a measly 6 core all the way to 16 core CPU) isn't optimal. They should do things a bit different for people who pay more. I don't have all the answers but these companies do have people who may have the answers but simply ignoring them or not taking their suggestions into consideration because "the market is too small" or "sounds too much work for not much gains" etc.
 
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