Car Wash Wax

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I know car wash wax (the stuff they spray on with the "premium" washes) isn't that great. But I was thinking that if I got a layer of that wax after my next car wash, it might help the wax I hand applied awhile back stay on longer (kind of like a sealant or an extra layer) ... any thoughts on this?

Is car wash wax likely to be bad for my car?
 
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Capt Caveman

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Wrong forum.

Better to use a spray on detailing or wax after washing/drying the car and wipe off with microfiber towels.
 

JulesMaximus

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Pure 100% waste of money.

This.

Those automatic washes are rough on paint too and the chemicals they use will strip off your existing wax in no time. If you have a nice car I wouldn't take it through one of those gas station washes if you paid me.
 

mmntech

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I work at a rental company. We clean the vehicles with a soap with the "wax" mixed in. Does dick all as far as I can tell.
 

BUTCH1

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I work at a rental company. We clean the vehicles with a soap with the "wax" mixed in. Does dick all as far as I can tell.

Yup, I fell for the wash that those wax beads suspended it the mix, same result, nothing. If one wants a cost of wax or polish it's gonna have to be hand applied...
 

alexruiz

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Wash by hand, and get Mothers FX spray wax after the wash.

Important: A spray wax is a booster, doesn't replace a full blown LSP (wax / sealant) In addition, a spray wax has no cleaning agents at all, meaning it can only be applied to just washed paint. This is different form a quick detailer, that has some cleaning agents and lubricants to aid in the lift of light dust.

I suggest a visit to the autopia forums ;)
 
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alexruiz

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As long as it doesn't have cleaners in it.

I will disagree. In general, because of the formulation, even "pure" carnaubas still need solvent agents to allow for workability. The solvents of the new layer will remove most of the previous layer.

It is possible to layer them using a "spit shine method" (mist the waxed paint with distilled water before applying the second coat) but that is a cheat. Some newer products, sealants and synthetic hybrids allow for more layerability, as the solvents in the "uncured" product don't affect the "cured" product, something similar to water and concrete... water is the solvent for concrete, but once cured, water won't dissolve it. Not all sealants and hybrids allow layerability, and even those that do, 4-5 layers is the practical maximum.

This is not a knock on carnauba, as I am personally a fan of carnauba, and think that the look it provides on reds and darks, specially black, is unmatched by any sealant and even the hybrids. It is not that they are less durable either, as a carnauba like Collinite 476S or Collinite 845IW will outlast practically any sealant. Just setting the record straight.


Alex
 

Howard

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If the wax was soluble in the wash, the wax would be dissolved by the wash lol

i.e. it'll rinse right off
 

CraigRT

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I always use Turtle Wax Zip Wax carwash when I wash my car. 2 reasons. 1 because its available everywhere, and 2 because it suds really well. It supposedly is a wax car wash.

I also use Eagle1 Wax As U Dry while drying my car and the paint is always smooth and looks great on my car.
 

Throckmorton

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I always use Turtle Wax Zip Wax carwash when I wash my car. 2 reasons. 1 because its available everywhere, and 2 because it suds really well. It supposedly is a wax car wash.

I also use Eagle1 Wax As U Dry while drying my car and the paint is always smooth and looks great on my car.

I use Zip Wax too. I figure I might as well add a coating of wax while I wash
 
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