CAR THREAD: Any ideas for cheap FAST cars?

[halik]

there is now way you can get a mr2 turbo under 3g ... in one piece anyway. The rear clips alone go for more than that. The volvo would be crazy though. So would a monster miata (miata w /5.0)

 

[NutBucket]

Originally posted by: halik
there is now way you can get a mr2 turbo under 3g ... in one piece anyway. The rear clips alone go for more than that. The volvo would be crazy though. So would a monster miata (miata w /5.0)

How about an older RX7?

 

[Ns1]

Originally posted by: NutBucket

Originally posted by: NeuroSynapsis

Originally posted by: boyRacer

Originally posted by: NeuroSynapsis

Originally posted by: Eli

Originally posted by: NeuroSynapsis
domestic....

if you really want an import, crx w/b18c or 240sx w/sr20det (both not street legal)

Why aren't they street legal?

these are based on cali laws btw

sr20 was never offered in the US, can't swap it and be street legal

b18c (integra gsr engine) wasn't offered for the crx (obviously) so you can't swap that

the only "legal" swap you could hope to perform with an import would be like a 89civic with a b16a (which is quite fast, albeit has no torque)

i thought the swap was legal as long as the engine was certified for use here... which means you retain all the emissions hardware that came with the original chassis/engine and you don't mess with it. I have a magazine on it somewhere... lemme dig it up if i can.

What state?

CA wise, the engine must be for that model and be newer than the car

ie a 94 civic ex can swap in a b16a from any car 94 or newer, 92 integ can swap in a 95gsr and so on and so forth

after that you gotta get it certified from a CA ref, emissions and visual

So long as the engine was offered for sale in CA it can be swapped. You can legally put a LS1 into a Honda so long as all the emissions stuff and electronics are in place. They check to see that the motor is set up the same way it was in a Vette. Pretty simple. I'm putting a Prelude motor in my Accord. No problems there except I have a JDM motor. I'll figure it out The smog ref will check that all the original solenoids and sensors and wiring and what not are in place. Then he will perform the test as if the car was a Prelude. Then if I pass I get a nice certification sticker on my door jamb stating that the motor is from a Prelude and that its now in an Accord and there will be a new barcode for smog purposes etc. etc. Its the same way I've seen LT1's in S10s.

i've read differently in many places, so proof or bs (this isn't meant to be a flame)

 

[NutBucket]

Originally posted by: NeuroSynapsis

Originally posted by: NutBucket

Originally posted by: NeuroSynapsis

Originally posted by: boyRacer

Originally posted by: NeuroSynapsis

Originally posted by: Eli

Originally posted by: NeuroSynapsis
domestic....

if you really want an import, crx w/b18c or 240sx w/sr20det (both not street legal)

Why aren't they street legal?

these are based on cali laws btw

sr20 was never offered in the US, can't swap it and be street legal

b18c (integra gsr engine) wasn't offered for the crx (obviously) so you can't swap that

the only "legal" swap you could hope to perform with an import would be like a 89civic with a b16a (which is quite fast, albeit has no torque)

i thought the swap was legal as long as the engine was certified for use here... which means you retain all the emissions hardware that came with the original chassis/engine and you don't mess with it. I have a magazine on it somewhere... lemme dig it up if i can.

What state?

CA wise, the engine must be for that model and be newer than the car

ie a 94 civic ex can swap in a b16a from any car 94 or newer, 92 integ can swap in a 95gsr and so on and so forth

after that you gotta get it certified from a CA ref, emissions and visual

So long as the engine was offered for sale in CA it can be swapped. You can legally put a LS1 into a Honda so long as all the emissions stuff and electronics are in place. They check to see that the motor is set up the same way it was in a Vette. Pretty simple. I'm putting a Prelude motor in my Accord. No problems there except I have a JDM motor. I'll figure it out The smog ref will check that all the original solenoids and sensors and wiring and what not are in place. Then he will perform the test as if the car was a Prelude. Then if I pass I get a nice certification sticker on my door jamb stating that the motor is from a Prelude and that its now in an Accord and there will be a new barcode for smog purposes etc. etc. Its the same way I've seen LT1's in S10s.

i've read differently in many places, so proof or bs (this isn't meant to be a flame)

Certification Sticker on door jamb
Website

 

[Scouzer]

90-94 Quad 4 Beretta. (180ish Horse)

Or a 94-96 V6 Beretta. (155-160 Horse)

Light bodies. I don't know if thats quite fast enough for you, though.

 

[NutBucket]

Originally posted by: Scouzer
90-94 Quad 4 Beretta. (180ish Horse)

Or a 94-96 V6 Beretta. (155-160 Horse)

Light bodies. I don't know if thats quite fast enough for you, though.

I kinda doubt that's fast enough. His current car is pushing about 200 I think.

 

[Ns1]

Originally posted by: NutBucket

Originally posted by: NeuroSynapsis

Originally posted by: NutBucket

Originally posted by: NeuroSynapsis

Originally posted by: boyRacer

Originally posted by: NeuroSynapsis

Originally posted by: Eli

Originally posted by: NeuroSynapsis
domestic....

if you really want an import, crx w/b18c or 240sx w/sr20det (both not street legal)

Why aren't they street legal?

these are based on cali laws btw

sr20 was never offered in the US, can't swap it and be street legal

b18c (integra gsr engine) wasn't offered for the crx (obviously) so you can't swap that

the only "legal" swap you could hope to perform with an import would be like a 89civic with a b16a (which is quite fast, albeit has no torque)

i thought the swap was legal as long as the engine was certified for use here... which means you retain all the emissions hardware that came with the original chassis/engine and you don't mess with it. I have a magazine on it somewhere... lemme dig it up if i can.

What state?

CA wise, the engine must be for that model and be newer than the car

ie a 94 civic ex can swap in a b16a from any car 94 or newer, 92 integ can swap in a 95gsr and so on and so forth

after that you gotta get it certified from a CA ref, emissions and visual

So long as the engine was offered for sale in CA it can be swapped. You can legally put a LS1 into a Honda so long as all the emissions stuff and electronics are in place. They check to see that the motor is set up the same way it was in a Vette. Pretty simple. I'm putting a Prelude motor in my Accord. No problems there except I have a JDM motor. I'll figure it out The smog ref will check that all the original solenoids and sensors and wiring and what not are in place. Then he will perform the test as if the car was a Prelude. Then if I pass I get a nice certification sticker on my door jamb stating that the motor is from a Prelude and that its now in an Accord and there will be a new barcode for smog purposes etc. etc. Its the same way I've seen LT1's in S10s.

i've read differently in many places, so proof or bs (this isn't meant to be a flame)

Certification Sticker on door jamb
Website

wow good job, never seen that before ^_^

 

[Imported]

Originally posted by: NeuroSynapsis

Originally posted by: NutBucket

Originally posted by: NeuroSynapsis

Originally posted by: NutBucket

Originally posted by: NeuroSynapsis

Originally posted by: boyRacer

Originally posted by: NeuroSynapsis

Originally posted by: Eli

Originally posted by: NeuroSynapsis
domestic....

if you really want an import, crx w/b18c or 240sx w/sr20det (both not street legal)

Why aren't they street legal?

these are based on cali laws btw

sr20 was never offered in the US, can't swap it and be street legal

b18c (integra gsr engine) wasn't offered for the crx (obviously) so you can't swap that

the only "legal" swap you could hope to perform with an import would be like a 89civic with a b16a (which is quite fast, albeit has no torque)

i thought the swap was legal as long as the engine was certified for use here... which means you retain all the emissions hardware that came with the original chassis/engine and you don't mess with it. I have a magazine on it somewhere... lemme dig it up if i can.

What state?

CA wise, the engine must be for that model and be newer than the car

ie a 94 civic ex can swap in a b16a from any car 94 or newer, 92 integ can swap in a 95gsr and so on and so forth

after that you gotta get it certified from a CA ref, emissions and visual

So long as the engine was offered for sale in CA it can be swapped. You can legally put a LS1 into a Honda so long as all the emissions stuff and electronics are in place. They check to see that the motor is set up the same way it was in a Vette. Pretty simple. I'm putting a Prelude motor in my Accord. No problems there except I have a JDM motor. I'll figure it out The smog ref will check that all the original solenoids and sensors and wiring and what not are in place. Then he will perform the test as if the car was a Prelude. Then if I pass I get a nice certification sticker on my door jamb stating that the motor is from a Prelude and that its now in an Accord and there will be a new barcode for smog purposes etc. etc. Its the same way I've seen LT1's in S10s.

i've read differently in many places, so proof or bs (this isn't meant to be a flame)

Certification Sticker on door jamb
Website

wow good job, never seen that before ^_^

Quite a few motors have been given the BAR sticker.. you could see easily on H-T. All you need to do is make sure the engine has an equivalent in the U.S. (JDM B18C = USDM B18C5, etc), has all U.S. smog equipment (intake manifold, exhaust manifold, intake, etc. or CARB'd equivalents), all sensors are in place, and of course, it passes smog.

That's what I've always been told.

 

[halik]

i dont care about emissions, i live in michigan

 

[geno]

Also those turbo dodges are kinda ugly looking

Even the Daytonas? Meh, to each his own.

The plus side to them is that you can't get a car that'll go faster for cheaper

 

[thedarkwolf]

Originally posted by: geno

Also those turbo dodges are kinda ugly looking

Even the Daytonas? Meh, to each his own.

The plus side to them is that you can't get a car that'll go faster for cheaper

Well he thinks talons are good looking so he can't have that much taste

 

[flxnimprtmscl]

Originally posted by: NeuroSynapsis
domestic....

if you really want an import, crx w/b18c or 240sx w/sr20det (both not street legal)

A 240SX with a SR20DET is about the most overpriced speed you can possibly pay for. You'll end up paying right around 5k (give or take) for the swap not including the price of the car. You can buy a 1G DSM for 3-5k (lot cheaper than a 240) and go build a $5 mbc from parts you get at home depot and you'll be fast enough to beat a stock SR20 in a 240. Dump the same 5k you'd spend on the SR20 in DSM and you'll be low 12's easy. Conclusion: Get a 240 is you want a drift car. Get a DSM is you want a fast car.

 

[Rent]

Originally posted by: flxnimprtmscl

Originally posted by: NeuroSynapsis domestic.... if you really want an import, crx w/b18c or 240sx w/sr20det (both not street legal)

A 240SX with a SR20DET is about the most overpriced speed you can possibly pay for. You'll end up paying right around 5k (give or take) for the swap not including the price of the car. You can buy a 1G DSM for 3-5k (lot cheaper than a 240) and go build a $5 mbc from parts you get at home depot and you'll be fast enough to beat a stock SR20 in a 240. Dump the same 5k you'd spend on the SR20 in DSM and you'll be low 12's easy. Conclusion: Get a 240 is you want a drift car. Get a DSM is you want a fast car.

You can run low 12s in a 240 for that amount of $ in mods too. The overall price will be higher if you pay a shop to do it though.

 

[MangoTBG]

You obviously have a GREAT barrier here...

$3500 isn't anything to play with. Unless you like Hondas. Lol

Save up more $$$ and do it right, the first time around. I'd hate to see you WASTE your money, because with any of these options....that's what you'd be doing.

More so, by wasting your time...and we all know

Time=Money

 

[Ns1]

Originally posted by: flxnimprtmscl

Originally posted by: NeuroSynapsis
domestic....

if you really want an import, crx w/b18c or 240sx w/sr20det (both not street legal)

A 240SX with a SR20DET is about the most overpriced speed you can possibly pay for. You'll end up paying right around 5k (give or take) for the swap not including the price of the car. You can buy a 1G DSM for 3-5k (lot cheaper than a 240) and go build a $5 mbc from parts you get at home depot and you'll be fast enough to beat a stock SR20 in a 240. Dump the same 5k you'd spend on the SR20 in DSM and you'll be low 12's easy. Conclusion: Get a 240 is you want a drift car. Get a DSM is you want a fast car.

yeah but the 240 will also look good =P sorry, personal preference i assume, i can't stand early dsm styling