Car Question: Rust Proof?

[NutBucket]

Originally posted by: BruinEd03

Originally posted by: NutBucket

Originally posted by: BruinEd03
do u guys know of any shops that will do the rubberized undercoating? I dont trust myself to do it =/ Do just any mechanic do it? cuz the honda dealership in Santa Monica doesn't offer that service.

-Ed

You're aware that for a while Honda of Santa Monica was shut down by American Honda for deceptive business practices right?

uh...no i wasn't aware of this :Q Ever since i've brought my car down here in LA...i've always used them. hmmmm.......

-Ed

Yeah. I only go there for parts every once in a while. Lately I've been going to Miller Honda tho (Culver City).

 

[AMCRambler]

Definitely put an undercoating on the car. I have a 1966 Rambler that would have rusted out long ago if it wasn't for the undercoating on it.

 

[C'DaleRider]

Originally posted by: AMCRambler
Definitely put an undercoating on the car. I have a 1966 Rambler that would have rusted out long ago if it wasn't for the undercoating on it.

Comparing the build quality, and rustproofing from the factory, of a '66 Rambler to a 2001 Honda is silly at best. How many rusted out Hondas, built in the last decade, have you seen lately?

 

[Mutilator]

A week or 2 ago on Two Guys Garage? they had an episode on electrical rust proofing. Apparently it's better than any chemical rust proofing you can get. I didn't see the whole episode just the ending but it looked like you put 1 receiver at the front left of the car and one at the right rear for the best protection. Basically keeps a current running through your frame so it can't rust. Perhaps you should do a google search for info on that?

 

[AMCRambler]

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Comparing the build quality, and rustproofing from the factory, of a '66 Rambler to a 2001 Honda is silly at best. How many rusted out Hondas, built in the last decade, have you seen lately?
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I live in New York and I've seen a lot of Honda's built in the last ten years rusting out. Especially around the edge of the rear wheel wells where the rear bumper cover ends. I have a 91, which isn't within the last decade, but it's also rusting in the same spot. Seems like a problem on Hondas. However I can't speak for the new ones, they haven't been around long enough for this to happen. Usually 97 or older I see the rust starting to go through. That factory "rust proofing" probably isn't worth a crap. However the after market undercoating like the kind I had put on my Rambler defnitely makes a difference. That was all I was trying to get at.

 

[Brutuskend]

Originally posted by: Roger

No.

The "rust proofing" is almost 100% profit for the dealer.

The manufacturer has rustproofed the car.

Really, I have worked for almost all the major automakers at one time or another and not one of them rustproofs the vehicles at the factory, yes some manufactures galvanize their vehicles but this is not rustproofing.



Here's what you do BruinEd03 ;

Have the car's underside thoroughly pressure washed, let it dry for at least two days in warm to hot weather, purchase rubberized undercoating, apply the undercoating to all the underside surfaces, especially around the wheel wells and fender lips, these areas are the first to rust on salt encrusted roads.

That's what I was going to suggest.

 

[Zenmervolt]

Originally posted by: AMCRambler
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Comparing the build quality, and rustproofing from the factory, of a '66 Rambler to a 2001 Honda is silly at best. How many rusted out Hondas, built in the last decade, have you seen lately?
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I live in New York and I've seen a lot of Honda's built in the last ten years rusting out. Especially around the edge of the rear wheel wells where the rear bumper cover ends. I have a 91, which isn't within the last decade, but it's also rusting in the same spot. Seems like a problem on Hondas. However I can't speak for the new ones, they haven't been around long enough for this to happen. Usually 97 or older I see the rust starting to go through. That factory "rust proofing" probably isn't worth a crap. However the after market undercoating like the kind I had put on my Rambler defnitely makes a difference. That was all I was trying to get at.

That area on older Hondas is widely known for being a water collection point. Newer models have not had that problem (according to the bodyshops I've talked with).

Regarding galvanization, it depends a lot on the company as well. It is extremely rare for a non-accident-damaged post-1979 Porsche to rust at all because of intensive factory rustproofing. I would agree with Roger's evaluation though. Check the underbody and make sure that it's well rubberized, if it's in good shape, you should be OK. If not, good idea to have it done again.

ZV

 

[StageLeft]

Interestingly enough Nissan happens to be the only manufacturer of automobiles, besides TVR, that inserts a special 3-ply polymer to their metal composits used in all of the metal on the vehicle exposed to the elements. They have a life-of-the-car rust/corrosion/perferation guarantee. There have been Nissans used in daily use for up to 150 years in Alaska that still have yet to show signs of rust even though they've got as many as four or five million miles on them. Sounds far fetched I know but it's entirely true, I assure you.

 

[MrAnderson]

Originally posted by: rudeguy5757
been living in michigan with the snow and salt all my life...just make sure to keep it good and washed (including underbody) and you should be ok...for a few years..if you are hoping to keep it mint...store it in the winter

I second this. Even though it may not look good the next day (or even hour) after it is washed just remember: It's all about keeping the layers down

 

[wyvrn]

I didn't think Nissan existed 150 years ago. Or am I missing something?

Originally posted by: Skoorb
Interestingly enough Nissan happens to be the only manufacturer of automobiles, besides TVR, that inserts a special 3-ply polymer to their metal composits used in all of the metal on the vehicle exposed to the elements. They have a life-of-the-car rust/corrosion/perferation guarantee. There have been Nissans used in daily use for up to 150 years in Alaska that still have yet to show signs of rust even though they've got as many as four or five million miles on them. Sounds far fetched I know but it's entirely true, I assure you.

 

[StageLeft]

Originally posted by: wyvrn
I didn't think Nissan existed 150 years ago. Or am I missing something?

Originally posted by: Skoorb
Interestingly enough Nissan happens to be the only manufacturer of automobiles, besides TVR, that inserts a special 3-ply polymer to their metal composits used in all of the metal on the vehicle exposed to the elements. They have a life-of-the-car rust/corrosion/perferation guarantee. There have been Nissans used in daily use for up to 150 years in Alaska that still have yet to show signs of rust even though they've got as many as four or five million miles on them. Sounds far fetched I know but it's entirely true, I assure you.

Nissan was making cars as early as the late 17th century.

 

[wyvrn]

Ok. So people are still driving model-A type Nissans in Alaska? That's amazing in itself.

Originally posted by: Skoorb

Originally posted by: wyvrn
I didn't think Nissan existed 150 years ago. Or am I missing something?

Originally posted by: Skoorb
Interestingly enough Nissan happens to be the only manufacturer of automobiles, besides TVR, that inserts a special 3-ply polymer to their metal composits used in all of the metal on the vehicle exposed to the elements. They have a life-of-the-car rust/corrosion/perferation guarantee. There have been Nissans used in daily use for up to 150 years in Alaska that still have yet to show signs of rust even though they've got as many as four or five million miles on them. Sounds far fetched I know but it's entirely true, I assure you.

Nissan was making cars as early as the late 17th century.