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isekii

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Originally posted by: Saulbadguy
Originally posted by: isekii
Originally posted by: Saulbadguy
Originally posted by: isekii
Originally posted by: Saulbadguy
Originally posted by: isekii
that's why you put CDR's in your car :p
why would you leave 75 real cd's in there ?

Because most sane people don't live in fear of their car being broken in to.

well if you are leaving 75 cd's ( $1000+ ) Retail, you're asking to be jacked.


No, i'm not. I'm just carrying around my music.

Yes you're carrying around music, but you're asking to be jacked.
It doesn't take much to burn a CD.
Takes me less than 4 min per disc if I do "on the fly"
Also where are you gonna store 75 CD's ? it defiinitely isn't gonna fit into the glove box.
There is no reason why anyone should be carrying around 75 CD's in the first place.

So, by your logic, there is no reason why people should have anything of value on them, at any given time, since their is a remote possibly of them "getting jacked".

Well, I better take the stereo system, radar detector, and sunglasses out of my car too. Hell, I might as well sell my HDTV and my computer, because they are valuable, and someone could break in to my home and steal them.

Sorry, but your logic sucks.

BTW,I have about 100 cds in a binder, that stores quite nicely under my seat.

Why does my logic suck ?
Not many people have room under their seat to fit a binder in there. If you carry items of any value, it attracts thieves. You carry, you risk getting jacked.
Yes, take that removeable faceplate and carry it with you at all times :p
 

mugs

Lifer
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Originally posted by: chrisms
I like how you blame the victim. I can carry around whatever I please, and if some jackass wants to break my window and steal it all well then he just got off with a bunch of CDs he can get $1 each for at the local pawn shop.

CDs may cost a lot when you buy them, but when some of them are burnt and all of them are disc-only in less than perfect shape, they aren't worth much to anyone but the owner. It's not even the money, it's the fact that I lost my favorite music, and now I know I'll never go out and buy the same crap again.

You already bought them once, just download them or copy them from friends.
 

Saulbadguy

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Jan 27, 2003
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Originally posted by: isekii
Originally posted by: Saulbadguy
Originally posted by: isekii
Originally posted by: Saulbadguy
Originally posted by: isekii
Originally posted by: Saulbadguy
Originally posted by: isekii
that's why you put CDR's in your car :p
why would you leave 75 real cd's in there ?

Because most sane people don't live in fear of their car being broken in to.

well if you are leaving 75 cd's ( $1000+ ) Retail, you're asking to be jacked.


No, i'm not. I'm just carrying around my music.

Yes you're carrying around music, but you're asking to be jacked.
It doesn't take much to burn a CD.
Takes me less than 4 min per disc if I do "on the fly"
Also where are you gonna store 75 CD's ? it defiinitely isn't gonna fit into the glove box.
There is no reason why anyone should be carrying around 75 CD's in the first place.

So, by your logic, there is no reason why people should have anything of value on them, at any given time, since their is a remote possibly of them "getting jacked".

Well, I better take the stereo system, radar detector, and sunglasses out of my car too. Hell, I might as well sell my HDTV and my computer, because they are valuable, and someone could break in to my home and steal them.

Sorry, but your logic sucks.

BTW,I have about 100 cds in a binder, that stores quite nicely under my seat.

Why does my logic suck ?
Not many people have room under their seat to fit a binder in there. If you carry items of any value, it attracts thieves. You carry, you risk getting jacked.
Yes, take that removeable faceplate and carry it with you at all times :p


Your logic sucks because you say by me carrying around my music collection, i'm "asking to get jacked."
I take that miniscule risk of getting jacked, just as I take the miniscule risk of driving a vehicle every day, living with the fact that I may get in a car wreck.

Sorry, but I don't let thieves dictate what I carry and what I do not. Its all about being smart. I don't advertise what I have in my vehicle by placing stickers of the brands of what audio equipment I have in my vehicle, I turn down my music before I park, and I take my faceplate off in public places. I store my CDs under my seat, which most people should have enough room to do, as binders are only a few inches thick.
 

Jzero

Lifer
Oct 10, 1999
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Originally posted by: Saulbadguy
Originally posted by: isekii
that's why you put CDR's in your car :p
why would you leave 75 real cd's in there ?

Because most sane people don't live in fear of their car being broken in to.

CDRs are so cheap and fast these days that the "sane" thing is NOT leaving a hojillion original CDs in a car. Sorry, but that's just stupid. It no longer takes any significant amount of time or money to make copies of CDs to leave in the car.

No one is asking you to live in fear of getting your car ransacked, but there are certain quick and easy things you can do to prevent it from happening and to cut your losses if it does happen.
 

Saulbadguy

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Jan 27, 2003
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Originally posted by: Jzero
Originally posted by: Saulbadguy
Originally posted by: isekii
that's why you put CDR's in your car :p
why would you leave 75 real cd's in there ?

Because most sane people don't live in fear of their car being broken in to.

CDRs are so cheap and fast these days that the "sane" thing is NOT leaving a hojillion original CDs in a car. Sorry, but that's just stupid. It no longer takes any significant amount of time or money to make copies of CDs to leave in the car.

No one is asking you to live in fear of getting your car ransacked, but there are certain quick and easy things you can do to prevent it from happening and to cut your losses if it does happen.

Lets say it takes 3 minutes to copy a CD from start to finish. I have about 100 cds, times 3 minutes. Thats about 5 hours of my time, wasted just because I live in fear.

There is also a discernable difference between the sound quality of a pressed CD, and a CD-R.
 

flxnimprtmscl

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Originally posted by: Saulbadguy
Originally posted by: Joemonkey
Originally posted by: chrisms
Well I don't have insurance for it so that sucks. Things like this is what makes people bitter.

i'm not sure any type of insurance would cover it... homeowners might if it was parked on the property

Comprehensive would.

Since when? I've tried to file a claim like this before (sub and amp) and if it's not bolted in (deck or speakers for example) the insurance company will tell you to fvck off.
 

mugs

Lifer
Apr 29, 2003
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Originally posted by: Saulbadguy
Originally posted by: Jzero
Originally posted by: Saulbadguy
Originally posted by: isekii
that's why you put CDR's in your car :p
why would you leave 75 real cd's in there ?

Because most sane people don't live in fear of their car being broken in to.

CDRs are so cheap and fast these days that the "sane" thing is NOT leaving a hojillion original CDs in a car. Sorry, but that's just stupid. It no longer takes any significant amount of time or money to make copies of CDs to leave in the car.

No one is asking you to live in fear of getting your car ransacked, but there are certain quick and easy things you can do to prevent it from happening and to cut your losses if it does happen.

Lets say it takes 3 minutes to copy a CD from start to finish. I have about 100 cds, times 3 minutes. Thats about 5 hours of my time, wasted just because I live in fear.

There is also a discernable difference between the sound quality of a pressed CD, and a CD-R.

Are you serious? Copying CD to CD, you can tell the difference? I call BS.
 

Saulbadguy

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Jan 27, 2003
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Originally posted by: mugs
Originally posted by: Saulbadguy
Originally posted by: Jzero
Originally posted by: Saulbadguy
Originally posted by: isekii
that's why you put CDR's in your car :p
why would you leave 75 real cd's in there ?

Because most sane people don't live in fear of their car being broken in to.

CDRs are so cheap and fast these days that the "sane" thing is NOT leaving a hojillion original CDs in a car. Sorry, but that's just stupid. It no longer takes any significant amount of time or money to make copies of CDs to leave in the car.

No one is asking you to live in fear of getting your car ransacked, but there are certain quick and easy things you can do to prevent it from happening and to cut your losses if it does happen.

Lets say it takes 3 minutes to copy a CD from start to finish. I have about 100 cds, times 3 minutes. Thats about 5 hours of my time, wasted just because I live in fear.

There is also a discernable difference between the sound quality of a pressed CD, and a CD-R.

Are you serious? Copying CD to CD, you can tell the difference? I call BS.

It may not matter on your '92 Sparkomatic, but if you have a system tuned for SQ, you can tell.
 

mugs

Lifer
Apr 29, 2003
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Originally posted by: Saulbadguy
Originally posted by: mugs
Originally posted by: Saulbadguy
Originally posted by: Jzero
Originally posted by: Saulbadguy
Originally posted by: isekii
that's why you put CDR's in your car :p
why would you leave 75 real cd's in there ?

Because most sane people don't live in fear of their car being broken in to.

CDRs are so cheap and fast these days that the "sane" thing is NOT leaving a hojillion original CDs in a car. Sorry, but that's just stupid. It no longer takes any significant amount of time or money to make copies of CDs to leave in the car.

No one is asking you to live in fear of getting your car ransacked, but there are certain quick and easy things you can do to prevent it from happening and to cut your losses if it does happen.

Lets say it takes 3 minutes to copy a CD from start to finish. I have about 100 cds, times 3 minutes. Thats about 5 hours of my time, wasted just because I live in fear.

There is also a discernable difference between the sound quality of a pressed CD, and a CD-R.

Are you serious? Copying CD to CD, you can tell the difference? I call BS.

It may not matter on your '92 Sparkomatic, but if you have a system tuned for SQ, you can tell.

If your system is so great, why does it have trouble reading CD-Rs? If it's an exact bit-for-bit copy of the original, the only difference is in the media. CD-Rs are less reflective than pressed CDs, but that wouldn't make a difference as long as the CD player is capable of reading it.
 

Jzero

Lifer
Oct 10, 1999
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Originally posted by: Saulbadguy
Lets say it takes 3 minutes to copy a CD from start to finish. I have about 100 cds, times 3 minutes. Thats about 5 hours of my time, wasted just because I live in fear.

There is also a discernable difference between the sound quality of a pressed CD, and a CD-R.

1. Of course you won't burn them all at once. But you can't listen to all 100 discs at a time - just burn a few at a time. Why one feels the need to keep 100 discs in the car is a separate question, the answer to which escapes me. I never keep more than 12 + the 6 in the changer. When you get a new CD, just burn it when you get it. Either way, if all those CDs were stolen, it would probably cost you more than 5 hours' worth of time to find and replace them.

2. Do you only listen to CDs in the car? You're not just burning copies because you "live in fear" (I suppose you don't lock your doors and roll your windows up, either?), it's handy to have another copy. Keep one set in the car, keep another set in the house. Always have all the music wherever you are. When you're at home, what do you listen to, MP3s? :laugh:

3. I don't care what kind of system you have. No one can tell the difference between a burned copy and a pressed copy when barelling down the highway at 70MPH. The road/wind noise alone make it impossible.
 

Saulbadguy

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Originally posted by: isekii
So tell us, what your Sound System designed for SQ is made up of.

Nothing too impressive. A Sony MP70 HU, PPI 6600 amp, MB quart component set. I can still tell the difference between a CD-R and regular CD. I think, as said above, it has alot to do with the media, and the quality of the media. Regular CDs seem to take more of a beating too, and still work.
 

Saulbadguy

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Jan 27, 2003
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Originally posted by: Jzero
Originally posted by: Saulbadguy
Lets say it takes 3 minutes to copy a CD from start to finish. I have about 100 cds, times 3 minutes. Thats about 5 hours of my time, wasted just because I live in fear.

There is also a discernable difference between the sound quality of a pressed CD, and a CD-R.

1. Of course you won't burn them all at once. But you can't listen to all 100 discs at a time - just burn a few at a time. Why one feels the need to keep 100 discs in the car is a separate question, the answer to which escapes me. I never keep more than 12 + the 6 in the changer. When you get a new CD, just burn it when you get it. Either way, if all those CDs were stolen, it would probably cost you more than 5 hours' worth of time to find and replace them.

2. Do you only listen to CDs in the car? You're not just burning copies because you "live in fear" (I suppose you don't lock your doors and roll your windows up, either?), it's handy to have another copy. Keep one set in the car, keep another set in the house. Always have all the music wherever you are. When you're at home, what do you listen to, MP3s? :laugh:

3. I don't care what kind of system you have. No one can tell the difference between a burned copy and a pressed copy when barelling down the highway at 70MPH. The road/wind noise alone make it impossible.

1. To have them all at my access whenever I want to listen to them.

2. Yes.

3. Most of my driving is through the city.

4. You are missing the entire point. I keep my CD collection in my vehicle because its convienent, and I feel safe.
 

Jzero

Lifer
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Originally posted by: Saulbadguy
[1. To have them all at my access whenever I want to listen to them.

2. Yes.

3. Most of my driving is through the city.

4. You are missing the entire point. I keep my CD collection in my vehicle because its convienent, and I feel safe.

2a: When you're at home, what do you listen to, MP3s? :laugh:

4. That's all well and good, but if anyone should just keep copies in a car, it's someone like you who desires to keep their entire collection on-hand. Feeling safe is your worst enemy - car thefts still happen, even in quiet affluent areas. You're taking a pretty hefty risk that you could mitigate easily and cheaply, but it seems that you have a pride issue of not "living in fear." Perhaps I have a different perspective than most since risk management is a big part of my everyday job, but if there's quick, cheap things you can do to lower your risk, it's silly to not take advantage of them. What other things to do you not do because you don't want to "live in fear?" Do you not have smoke detectors in your house? Maybe you don't wear a seatbelt? You don't lock your doors when you leave your house? Ask your neighbors to collect your mail and newspapers when you're on vacation?
 

Saulbadguy

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Originally posted by: Jzero
Originally posted by: Saulbadguy
[1. To have them all at my access whenever I want to listen to them.

2. Yes.

3. Most of my driving is through the city.

4. You are missing the entire point. I keep my CD collection in my vehicle because its convienent, and I feel safe.

2a: When you're at home, what do you listen to, MP3s? :laugh:

4. That's all well and good, but if anyone should just keep copies in a car, it's someone like you who desires to keep their entire collection on-hand. Feeling safe is your worst enemy - car thefts still happen, even in quiet affluent areas. You're taking a pretty hefty risk that you could mitigate easily and cheaply, but it seems that you have a pride issue of not "living in fear." Perhaps I have a different perspective than most since risk management is a big part of my everyday job, but if there's quick, cheap things you can do to lower your risk, it's silly to not take advantage of them. What other things to do you not do because you don't want to "live in fear?" Do you not have smoke detectors in your house? Maybe you don't wear a seatbelt? You don't lock your doors when you leave your house? Ask your neighbors to collect your mail and newspapers when you're on vacation?

2a: I don't listen to much of anything at home. Sometimes I turn on the radio, or the music channels on digital cable.

4: I just don't feel that leaving my CDs in my car is a big risk. I store them under my seat, out of sight. Sometimes I leave my doors unlocked, if i'm only going to be gone for an hour or two, or just going to the grocery store. I wear a seatbelt because its the law, and i've just gotten used to using it. I stop the mail when I leave on vacation, as my mailbox is not big enough to hold all the crap that I get if im gone for a week. ;P
 

Jeff7181

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Who keeps money in their glove box? Damn... that just sounds stupid to me unless it's like $3 or something that you got as change and forgot to take with you.

75 CD's in your car? How is it convenient lugging a huge case into your lap and flipping through pages of CD's to find the one you want? When I go somewhere I take a few with me to listen to, and bring them inside when I get home, and take a few different ones with me the next time.

Anyway... sorry for your loss. :) I've never had my car broken into and I hope I never do. I usually don't leave anything in my car except for my radar detector... but if I park in a "questionable" area, I usually stick that in the glove box, and lock the glove box. If someone's gonna take my shyt they're gonna have to earn it, lol.
 

Joemonkey

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Originally posted by: flxnimprtmscl
Originally posted by: Saulbadguy
Originally posted by: Joemonkey
Originally posted by: chrisms
Well I don't have insurance for it so that sucks. Things like this is what makes people bitter.

i'm not sure any type of insurance would cover it... homeowners might if it was parked on the property

Comprehensive would.

Since when? I've tried to file a claim like this before (sub and amp) and if it's not bolted in (deck or speakers for example) the insurance company will tell you to fvck off.

yeah i don't think comprehensive is gonna cover ANYTHING that got stolen, except maybe the faceplate off the stereo and the change well (and that's a big maybe)

it would cover the broken window (liability only insurance does not, at least where i live) and the stereo (if the entire thing got stolen)