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faziwazi

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I have a friend and she needs a car. Her dad wants her to get a SUV, and her mom wants to get her a japanese sedan. She cant spend more than 20k. Shes thinking about the civic, rav4 and the crv. What would you buy if you were her?
 

Scootin159

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It all comes down to what she wants. I would gladly help ya choose a specific car, but would need more details of what she wants.

What about the SUV is it that her dad likes that makes him want her to get one?

What about a Japanese Sedan is it that her mom likes that wants her to get her one?

Are we limited to only new cars or are they willing to break into the more open used car teritory?

BTW, one thing I've found from my experience in looking at cars is that it's most important to define first what you want (and think outside the box). Ignore what's out there...think of what you want, and what's most important and then find a car out there that meets those criteria. There's a LOT of different types of cars out there, you're bound to find one that meets what you want, even within your price range.
 

faziwazi

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She has to have a new car becuase she's but a used one and it died. Her dad said any reasonable, economical SUV. Her mom would like her to get a Civic, but shes not much a civic fan. Mazda is not japanese, only partially.
 

zixxer

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erm


nissan sentra. that little 1.8l in the gxe's isn't a bad engine at all... not fast, but not slow.. and good mpg...


they are ugly imo, but to each his own.
 

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Originally posted by: faziwazi
She has to have a new car becuase she's but a used one and it died. Her dad said any reasonable, economical SUV. Her mom would like her to get a Civic, but shes not much a civic fan. Mazda is not japanese, only partially.
It's japanese enough.. look at this beautiful thing...

pics
 

Scootin159

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Originally posted by: faziwazi
She has to have a new car becuase she's but a used one and it died. Her dad said any reasonable, economical SUV. Her mom would like her to get a Civic, but shes not much a civic fan. Mazda is not japanese, only partially.

Hmm....seems pretty stuck on the Japanese thing. Not too sure why the country of orgin makes any difference, but it's not my call. I guess if she is going to go Japanese she might as well go new. They tend to build them like disposable appliances, and the buyers tend to treat them like it too, so may be hard to find a good used example. Please understand this is a gross generality however.

If she doesn't like the civic, don't get it, especially not because her mom "heard good things about it". Marketing can do wonders, but marketing has nothing to do with quality. Heck Saturn even has commercials now advertising how good they look (IMHO Saturns strength is anything BUT looks).

Mazda is Japanese just as much as Toyota is Japanese just as much as Honda is Japanese. Almost any car now comes from dozens of countries, so it'll be hard to find a car that's 100% Japanese (if possible at all).

What about the SUV is it her dad likes? Is it safety? A Rav4 has one of the WORST safety ratings (If I remember right). Is it storage room? A lot of hatchbacks have just as much room as most "practical" SUV's. Is it 4wd? You can even get 4wd on a Lamborghini.

Not to pick ya apart here, but really all you've given is stereotypes, nothing specific (like she is concerned about safety or build quality or whatever). Edit: I guess stereotypes isn't the right word, but I'm not sure what it would be.
 

faziwazi

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Originally posted by: Scootin159
Originally posted by: faziwazi
She has to have a new car becuase she's but a used one and it died. Her dad said any reasonable, economical SUV. Her mom would like her to get a Civic, but shes not much a civic fan. Mazda is not japanese, only partially.

Hmm....seems pretty stuck on the Japanese thing. Not too sure why the country of orgin makes any difference, but it's not my call. I guess if she is going to go Japanese she might as well go new. They tend to build them like disposable appliances, and the buyers tend to treat them like it too, so may be hard to find a good used example. Please understand this is a gross generality however.

If she doesn't like the civic, don't get it, especially not because her mom "heard good things about it". Marketing can do wonders, but marketing has nothing to do with quality. Heck Saturn even has commercials now advertising how good they look (IMHO Saturns strength is anything BUT looks).

Mazda is Japanese just as much as Toyota is Japanese just as much as Honda is Japanese. Almost any car now comes from dozens of countries, so it'll be hard to find a car that's 100% Japanese (if possible at all).

What about the SUV is it her dad likes? Is it safety? A Rav4 has one of the WORST safety ratings (If I remember right). Is it storage room? A lot of hatchbacks have just as much room as most "practical" SUV's. Is it 4wd? You can even get 4wd on a Lamborghini.

Not to pick ya apart here, but really all you've given is stereotypes, nothing specific (like she is concerned about safety or build quality or whatever). Edit: I guess stereotypes isn't the right word, but I'm not sure what it would be.

Yea i give up...shes picky! Sorry...but I'll ask you for help when i need to decide for a car.
 

Scootin159

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Originally posted by: faziwazi
Originally posted by: Scootin159
Originally posted by: faziwazi
She has to have a new car becuase she's but a used one and it died. Her dad said any reasonable, economical SUV. Her mom would like her to get a Civic, but shes not much a civic fan. Mazda is not japanese, only partially.

Hmm....seems pretty stuck on the Japanese thing. Not too sure why the country of orgin makes any difference, but it's not my call. I guess if she is going to go Japanese she might as well go new. They tend to build them like disposable appliances, and the buyers tend to treat them like it too, so may be hard to find a good used example. Please understand this is a gross generality however.

If she doesn't like the civic, don't get it, especially not because her mom "heard good things about it". Marketing can do wonders, but marketing has nothing to do with quality. Heck Saturn even has commercials now advertising how good they look (IMHO Saturns strength is anything BUT looks).

Mazda is Japanese just as much as Toyota is Japanese just as much as Honda is Japanese. Almost any car now comes from dozens of countries, so it'll be hard to find a car that's 100% Japanese (if possible at all).

What about the SUV is it her dad likes? Is it safety? A Rav4 has one of the WORST safety ratings (If I remember right). Is it storage room? A lot of hatchbacks have just as much room as most "practical" SUV's. Is it 4wd? You can even get 4wd on a Lamborghini.

Not to pick ya apart here, but really all you've given is stereotypes, nothing specific (like she is concerned about safety or build quality or whatever). Edit: I guess stereotypes isn't the right word, but I'm not sure what it would be.

Yea i give up...shes picky! Sorry...but I'll ask you for help when i need to decide for a car.

Sorry if I offended you (not even sure if I did), but it totally wasn't my aim. I guess I just kinda get annoyed with everyone who comes on here and says "what's the best car for $20k". It's such a broad question. The best car for $20k is the car she'll enjoy the most for $20k. In reality probably the best thing to do is go test drive A LOT of cars. Go to several dealers and look at a lot of cars (even ones you don't think she'd like....you'll often be surprised). The test drive is key...it just seems as though once you find "the car" you'll know. It will just feel natural to ya. Either way don't leave until she's happy.
 

faziwazi

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Sorry if I offended you (not even sure if I did), but it totally wasn't my aim. I guess I just kinda get annoyed with everyone who comes on here and says "what's the best car for $20k". It's such a broad question. The best car for $20k is the car you'll enjoy the most for $20k. In reality probably the best thing to do is go test drive A LOT of cars. Go to several dealers and look at a lot of cars (even ones you don't think she'd like....you'll often be surprised). The test drive is key...it just seems as though once you find "the car" you'll know. It will just feel natural to ya. Either way don't leave until she's happy.

I see where youre coming from. You didnt offend me at all, its all good. I see how you can get annoyed at such a broad question. Ill tell her to test drive whatever she likes and then buy it. Thanks.
 

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CRV. Can't go wrong with any of your choices with the civic or rav4...but I do like the CRV better. I've found it has great interior room, nice high driving position, but its a bit weak on the power.

 

Dacalo

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Originally posted by: faziwazi
She has to have a new car becuase she's but a used one and it died. Her dad said any reasonable, economical SUV. Her mom would like her to get a Civic, but shes not much a civic fan. Mazda is not japanese, only partially.

Sure Mazda is owned by Ford but Ford doesn't interfere with Mazda's design, etc.

My 2003.5 Protege5 was built in Japan, with %97 of parts made in Japan.

EDIT: Out of those three choices, I would go for the CRV. The Rav4 was a huge disappointment for me.