Originally posted by: RaiseUp
My parents said they would pay for everything(Car, Insurance), but I said that I wanted to pay for it . to show I am responsible. So that's why I don't want a BMW or Benz. How are those Avengers?
you must've had a heck of a childhood job. either that or are a trust fund baby and "your" money comes from there. no biggie either way. i take it you havea penis, are hetro, and prefer tators over rice. I'm having to assume this because other than asking for Aleros (not a bad car) and Avengers, you haven't mentioned much about your desire in an automobile. what price range are you looking at and any lifestyle issues? (sporty, convertible, 2 door, 4x4, what?) seems you are looking at middle of the road american sedans... I take it you live in teh midwest somewhere? (if you were in the southwest US those wouldn't have been the first two cars you would be asking for opinions on) so enough of my crystal ball...
I like both the cars you've mentioned so far.
http://www.asog.net/
http://www.alero.org/
I remember scoping out the Aleros when they first came out and it was a nice alternative to the Japanese stuff (but I still don't know how they compare and would SERIOUSLY check for direct comparisons and reliability reports) They seem nice "sporty" american "azn" type sedans.
The Avenger is directly related to the Sebring and that was a car I was considering for my daughter (a used one in convertible form) for when she started college a year n a few months from now. (now that she has her new car that would be silly.)
I would think the Alero would outperform the Avenger in performance, but I like the Sebring style and the Alero isn't a convertible. I would probably prefer the Sebring/Avenger since the Alero is an american version of the azn concept, (kinda like out amercian wild rice) and imho what's the point in that? if you want azn, buy azn! they do it better. the Sebring/Avenger is American, undeniably so... whereas somebody could
easily mistake the Alero for a rice bowl, there is no mistaking the Sebring/Avenger for what it is, AMERICAN. now whether this is good or bad depends on your pov. in convertible form, I like it. I would seriously have to do some major research before I bought a non-convertible model though.
speaking of which.. you REALLY want to show your parents you are responsible? research the hell out it beyond asking a bunch of turds opinions on the internet. sure, this is a good start, but find out all the data on it such as reliability and repair figures n such. although doing that will probably make you want to buy an Acura Integra. haha. then own up to the car and don't be so wishy washy by wanting a different one every year or two.. that is hard! you lightly research a vehicle and a year later desperatly want something else that comes along! that is why I prefer unique or classic style vehicles that don't go out of style in a few years. (cars that are timeless > * )
I "did" look a bit into the Sebring Convertible and it beat out the yota solora convertible in a few areas. (and other convertibles) A convertible is a unique thing though andin a smaller group with which to compare, by wanting a sedan, that opens up a world of MANY cars to compare.
edit: forgot to mention one basic thing... there is NO WAY I would consider anything other than the optional V6 in either of those vehicles. if you want a 4cyl American stick with the Neon or somethign a bit lighter. even if you're not a gear head, you don't want to be run over getting around. it will less stressfull on the engine also. I am a firm believer of matching the engine to the vehicle in this regards. most often that is not taking the smallest/cheapest engine available in a model. doesn't have to be the biggest/most powerfull either.for instance if a line has 3 engine options, a 4cyl, a 6cyl, and a turbo 4cyl, it will often behoove the non-all out performance buyer to purchase the 6cyl. it won't labor to keep up, might have such things as a timing chain instead of belt, and isn't pressurized to put a strain on in the engine or require overly frequent maintenance. (you better keep that turbo car exceptionaly maintained if you want it to last) whereasthe base engine maybemarginal at best and it is having to work overtime to keep up. no point in that at all. a few excpetions do come to mind, but they are the exception and not the rule. as a rule, even as a non-performance oriented person, the upgraded engine pays off in the long run. (and every day for that matter)