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Originally posted by: cr2250
Yeahh it was annoying with my car, a sheet of ice, and even at slowww speeds i had no control over it whatsoever. Scary as hell too, i cracked a wheel, and destroyed my tire by hitting a gutter. Its impossible to stop with a sheet of ice, although abs does wonders, which i dont have : /

Yep similar thing happened to me last month going around the corner into the office. Hit some black ice at about 10mph, pumped brakes, steered both ways, and absolutely nothing happened bar me going in a perfectly straight line and hitting the kerb. btw five others either slid or span on the same corner within 30 minutes of each other.

One buckled alloy later.

I'm currently running on the space saver spare tire (restricted to 50mph which is a pita). I will be picking up a replacement set of alloys tomorrow and I can hopefully rescue the tire from the buckled alloy. Fingers crossed that there is no damage to the suspension.

The annoying this is that the tires are only 3 months old and my car has ABS and 4-wheel drive and I still couldn't get around the corner without hitting the kerb.
 
On a related note, the Dodge Sprinter van I drive for work is absolutely perfect in the snow. Sure it is rear wheel drive, but it has the BEST traction control system I've ever tried. Unless I am doing something completely out of the ordinary, it can keep me in complete control.

For example, I tried to initiate a fishtail in a corner. The truck cut fuel (its a diesel after all) and applied brake to stop the spin from occurring (and to prevent front tires from losing grip I suppose).
 
Nice of you to leave a note at least. This exact situation happened to my wife's car a few weeks ago. Somebody smashed into her driver side door and didn't leave a note.
 
Minnesota and it took 5 years to learn not to ever have bald tires in the winter yet? 🙂

Although ice is something else altogether I've found that tires that can be fine in the summer with ok tread will suck it badly in snow.
 
Originally posted by: Skoorb
Minnesota and it took 5 years to learn not to ever have bald tires in the winter yet? 🙂

Although ice is something else altogether I've found that tires that can be fine in the summer with ok tread will suck it badly in snow.

I'd just bought the truck for 250 bucks 2 days before and now have new tires on the front w/ almost new ones on the back! Much better snow handling now!
 
Originally posted by: daw123

Yep similar thing happened to me last month going around the corner into the office. Hit some black ice at about 10mph, pumped brakes, steered both ways, and absolutely nothing happened bar me going in a perfectly straight line and hitting the kerb. btw five others either slid or span on the same corner within 30 minutes of each other.

One buckled alloy later.

I'm currently running on the space saver spare tire (restricted to 50mph which is a pita). I will be picking up a replacement set of alloys tomorrow and I can hopefully rescue the tire from the buckled alloy. Fingers crossed that there is no damage to the suspension.

The annoying this is that the tires are only 3 months old and my car has ABS and 4-wheel drive and I still couldn't get around the corner without hitting the kerb.

Why did you pump the brakes on a car with ABS? And why steer both ways?😕
 
Originally posted by: jagec
Originally posted by: daw123

Yep similar thing happened to me last month going around the corner into the office. Hit some black ice at about 10mph, pumped brakes, steered both ways, and absolutely nothing happened bar me going in a perfectly straight line and hitting the kerb. btw five others either slid or span on the same corner within 30 minutes of each other.

One buckled alloy later.

I'm currently running on the space saver spare tire (restricted to 50mph which is a pita). I will be picking up a replacement set of alloys tomorrow and I can hopefully rescue the tire from the buckled alloy. Fingers crossed that there is no damage to the suspension.

The annoying this is that the tires are only 3 months old and my car has ABS and 4-wheel drive and I still couldn't get around the corner without hitting the kerb.

Why did you pump the brakes on a car with ABS? And why steer both ways?😕

I might as well have not bothered doing anything, since it made no difference.

Steer both ways - see if it would turn into an area with no ice and therefore grip
Pumping the brakes - automatic reaction I suppose.

On a positive note, I've had the buckled alloy replaced and all is well - there seems to be no damage to the suspension or steering rack.
 
Back in '98 I was coming up Snelling towards Ford Parkway from West 7th in my '86 Bronco 2 with new tires at 2AM after a snowstorm. I was driving cautiously ~(25mph) and saw the light turn red two blocks up. I started slowing down, realized I was onsheer ice, pumped the brakes and turned the wheel, but I had no control. I ended up sliding all the way through the intersection, but thankfully I didn't hit anything. When you're on ice, all you can do is pray.

Hopefully your insurance doesn't take too big of a hit.

Originally posted by: Toastedlightly
This is a bit of an automotive rant.

So, I live in Minnesota. Its expected that the roads will be slick. I accept that. I've driven here almost 5 years, I can handle it well... or so I thought. I found that iced over roads (not snow, just pure ice) are impossible and should be avoided.

I was just cruising back home on a side street, minding my own business, going ~20mph when out of the blue I start sliding sideways with the crown of the road. The instant this happens, I get into emergency mode. I start pumping the brakes and try to direct myself away from the parked cars on the side of the road.

Unfortunately, this was not to work out in m favor. I ended up rear-ending a parked Camry. Its Sunday night and nobody was out, so I left a note on the windshield with my name and phone number to call. I feel horrible that I hit a parked car (I usually make jokes about people doing it).

Bonus rant: City of St. Paul, PLEASE SALT THE BACK ROADS! They are nearing impassible for rear wheel drive vehicles.

Cliffs:
Slippery roads
Hit parked car
RAGE


EDIT: Because of popular demand, me definition of bald tires: tires that are down to the wear bars. They still have tread, they just don't have much life left.

 
Originally posted by: Zenmervolt
Originally posted by: boomerang
I just live here, but I'm sure you're right. Come on over and put on your studded tires and argue with the Police officer while he gives you a ticket. But you're right and I concede.

*shrug* Never had a lick of trouble driving up into MI with studded tires when coming up from Ohio.

From a strict legal standpoint I am right. That doesn't mean an officer won't write a ticket for it (the police are not, and have never been, arbiters of what is and is not legal).

ZV

Asking my neighbor the Michigan State cop the are 100% illigal in MI. According to them they changed that law years ago due to it tearing the roads up. Lord knows we dont need any help with that here.
 
Originally posted by: zebano
Back in '98 I was coming up Snelling towards Ford Parkway from West 7th in my '86 Bronco 2 with new tires at 2AM after a snowstorm. I was driving cautiously ~(25mph) and saw the light turn red two blocks up. I started slowing down, realized I was onsheer ice, pumped the brakes and turned the wheel, but I had no control. I ended up sliding all the way through the intersection, but thankfully I didn't hit anything. When you're on ice, all you can do is pray.

Hopefully your insurance doesn't take too big of a hit.
Very lucky. If that was me I would have been hit by an truck at the intersection, which would have span me into a parked car 🙂
 
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