Capture of Bin Laden eminent

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bjc112

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Originally posted by: DaveSohmer
Now everyone knows that there is no way we can capture UBL or fight any other part of the WoT, send Colin Powell to Asia to talk about NK or anything else because all our attention is focused on Iraq.


Oh yeah and the possible war with Iraq is about oil and getting revenge for the first Pres. Bush.

Not true at all,

How did they capture the 2nd in command then?

Guess Not ALL the attention is focused there..

Don't be fooled for a second if you the US doesn't know iraq has WMD, they don't tell us EVERYTHING nor should they...
 

Red Dawn

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Originally posted by: bjc112
Originally posted by: DaveSohmer
Now everyone knows that there is no way we can capture UBL or fight any other part of the WoT, send Colin Powell to Asia to talk about NK or anything else because all our attention is focused on Iraq.


Oh yeah and the possible war with Iraq is about oil and getting revenge for the first Pres. Bush.

Not true at all,

How did they capture the 2nd in command then?

Guess Not ALL the attention is focused there..

Don't be fooled for a second if you the US doesn't know iraq has WMD, they don't tell us EVERYTHING nor should they...
:)

 

ufs

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Originally posted by: whitecloak
right. a bunch of terrorists chasing another terrorist. I will believe that pakistan is no longer a terrorist nation when the sun rises in the west. musharraf and the rest of the pakistani government is playing the US for a fool.

right... but isnt it shame for US that it is being played by a country like pakistan... think about it? dont we have best intelligence in the world? why do we still need pakistan's help to catch osama?

also, if they actually catch him, they will keep it higly secret... and it is possible they might have already arrested him... hence all the rumours
 

UltraQuiet

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Originally posted by: ufs
Originally posted by: whitecloak
right. a bunch of terrorists chasing another terrorist. I will believe that pakistan is no longer a terrorist nation when the sun rises in the west. musharraf and the rest of the pakistani government is playing the US for a fool.

right... but isnt it shame for US that it is being played by a country like pakistan... think about it? dont we have best intelligence in the world? why do we still need pakistan's help to catch osama?

also, if they actually catch him, they will keep it higly secret... and it is possible they might have already arrested him... hence all the rumours

The problem is that we don't have the best intelligence in the world, everywhere. We have a very hard time developing intel in ME countries. We rely heavily on recruiting "natives" and it is not always easy and it is very expensive. It is further exacerberated when you have an idiot like Clinton who decides to limit who can be recruited based on his idea of scruples. Oh the irony.
 

ufs

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Originally posted by: DaveSohmer
Originally posted by: ufs
Originally posted by: whitecloak
right. a bunch of terrorists chasing another terrorist. I will believe that pakistan is no longer a terrorist nation when the sun rises in the west. musharraf and the rest of the pakistani government is playing the US for a fool.

right... but isnt it shame for US that it is being played by a country like pakistan... think about it? dont we have best intelligence in the world? why do we still need pakistan's help to catch osama?

also, if they actually catch him, they will keep it higly secret... and it is possible they might have already arrested him... hence all the rumours

The problem is that we don't have the best intelligence in the world, everywhere. We have a very hard time developing intel in ME countries. We rely heavily on recruiting "natives" and it is not always easy and it is very expensive. It is further exacerberated when you have an idiot like Clinton who decides to limit who can be recruited based on his idea of scruples. Oh the irony.

but our intelligence can prove that iraq has two trucks and a forklifter parked outside a factory
 

LH

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why do we still need pakistan's help to catch osama?

Uh because hes in pakistan and it wouldnt be a good scene having US special ops chasing bin Laden through Pakastani countryside, that would cause alot of trouble.
 

ufs

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Originally posted by: Infos
Pakistan is the epicenter breeding ground for anti-western terrorists
There are hundreds (if not thousands) of Koran-brainwashing religious schools there
that are fostering more hate than you can imagine

how many times have u been there?
 

etech

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Originally posted by: ufs
Originally posted by: whitecloak
right. a bunch of terrorists chasing another terrorist. I will believe that pakistan is no longer a terrorist nation when the sun rises in the west. musharraf and the rest of the pakistani government is playing the US for a fool.

right... but isnt it shame for US that it is being played by a country like pakistan... think about it? dont we have best intelligence in the world? why do we still need pakistan's help to catch osama?

Could it just possibly be the little fact that he is probably IN PAKISATAN.

 

UltraQuiet

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Originally posted by: ufs
Originally posted by: DaveSohmer
Originally posted by: ufs
Originally posted by: whitecloak
right. a bunch of terrorists chasing another terrorist. I will believe that pakistan is no longer a terrorist nation when the sun rises in the west. musharraf and the rest of the pakistani government is playing the US for a fool.

right... but isnt it shame for US that it is being played by a country like pakistan... think about it? dont we have best intelligence in the world? why do we still need pakistan's help to catch osama?

also, if they actually catch him, they will keep it higly secret... and it is possible they might have already arrested him... hence all the rumours

The problem is that we don't have the best intelligence in the world, everywhere. We have a very hard time developing intel in ME countries. We rely heavily on recruiting "natives" and it is not always easy and it is very expensive. It is further exacerberated when you have an idiot like Clinton who decides to limit who can be recruited based on his idea of scruples. Oh the irony.

but our intelligence can prove that iraq has two trucks and a forklifter parked outside a factory

That's true however what it can't do is tell, for instance, exactly where Saddam is. Which is a much better analogy than your forklift one. It is one thing to use satellites and planes to spot activity like construction, troop movements, etc. It is quite another to find a single person who doesn't want to be found.
 

rufruf44

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I just found it amazing that you have Pakistan and India, mostly the same racial group, divided by religion. One has a strong anti USA presence in the population, while the other have a pro-USA feels.
 

Whitecloak

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Originally posted by: rufruf44
I just found it amazing that you have Pakistan and India, mostly the same racial group, divided by religion. One has a strong anti USA presence in the population, while the other have a pro-USA feels.

probably because india is a democracy and has the same moral values as most other middle class dominated economies around the world.
judge pakistan for yourself. The only reason pakistan exists as a country is due to the american aid for it.

 

ufs

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Originally posted by: whitecloak
Originally posted by: rufruf44
I just found it amazing that you have Pakistan and India, mostly the same racial group, divided by religion. One has a strong anti USA presence in the population, while the other have a pro-USA feels.

i m not sure if pakistanis and indians are same racial group... and even if they are... religion makes a hell lot of difference... israelis are also arabs

probably because india is a democracy and has the same moral values as most other middle class dominated economies around the world.
judge pakistan for yourself. The only reason pakistan exists as a country is due to the american aid for it.

pakistan is also a democray.... has an elected government and all... and american aid was banned for pakistan in 90s and even more sanctions were imposed after it conducted the nuclear tests in 1998. Funny it didnt wipe off at that time. Some nerves.
 

OS

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heh, a couple days ago several news sources said that Osama was hours away from capture. Fast forward to today and we don't have jack. WTF
 

Red Dawn

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Originally posted by: OS
heh, a couple days ago several news sources said that Osama was hours away from capture. Fast forward to today and we don't have jack. WTF
Well according to Geraldo Rivera it should happen any time. His sources say Bin Laden is hiding in Al Capones secret safe
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