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Capoeira Knockout in an MMA fight.....

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it was a clean shot right on the button, how is that luck? just because its difficult? or because you cant believe capoeira is legit?
 
Originally posted by: randay
it was a clean shot right on the button, how is that luck? just because its difficult? or because you cant believe capoeira is legit?
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lol, it was luck. Capoeira is a joke. Everyone knows this.
 
Originally posted by: theflyingpig
Originally posted by: randay
it was a clean shot right on the button, how is that luck? just because its difficult? or because you cant believe capoeira is legit?
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lol, it was luck. Capoeira is a joke. Everyone knows this.
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yeah, especially that guy who got his shit kicked in.
 
Man, some people here sound super defensive about capoeira. I think all you have to do is look at a lot of the MMA exhibitions where capos were pretty easily defeated.

You can't deny that's a great kick that lands right on that guys exposed face, but you also can't deny that capos aren't the dominating force in MMAs by a longshot.
 
Originally posted by: randay
Originally posted by: theflyingpig
Originally posted by: randay
it was a clean shot right on the button, how is that luck? just because its difficult? or because you cant believe capoeira is legit?
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lol, it was luck. Capoeira is a joke. Everyone knows this.
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yeah, especially that guy who got his shit kicked in.
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You are obviously not aware of how often Capoeira practitioners get beat down. It was luck.
 
Originally posted by: Auggie
Man, some people here sound super defensive about capoeira. I think all you have to do is look at a lot of the MMA exhibitions where capos were pretty easily defeated.

You can't deny that's a great kick that lands right on that guys exposed face, but you also can't deny that capos aren't the dominating force in MMAs by a longshot.
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a ton of martial arts are actually not represented by MMA not because they aren't competetive, but because they emphasize moves that debilitate/kill their opponents. MMA is very highly regulated as you know, and rules in place to protect the chest, neck, back of the head, back, nether regions, and ankle are there to keep the sport safe and unfortunately limited. When up against a typical martial artist in asia, a MMA fighter isn't going to get beat, but killed, so i don't think the MMA is a very good yardstick for what is 'dominating.'
 
Originally posted by: ed21x
Originally posted by: Auggie
Man, some people here sound super defensive about capoeira. I think all you have to do is look at a lot of the MMA exhibitions where capos were pretty easily defeated.

You can't deny that's a great kick that lands right on that guys exposed face, but you also can't deny that capos aren't the dominating force in MMAs by a longshot.
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a ton of martial arts are actually not represented by MMA not because they aren't competetive, but because they emphasize moves that debilitate/kill their opponents. MMA is very highly regulated as you know, and rules in place to protect the chest, neck, back of the head, back, nether regions, and ankle are there to keep the sport safe and unfortunately limited. When up against a typical martial artist in asia, a MMA fighter isn't going to get beat, but killed, so i don't think the MMA is a very good yardstick for what is 'dominating.'
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Well yea and I'm glad it's regulated cus umm we'd have guys getting killed or seriously injuired all the time in the ring. I'm a guy and I love seeing people get their asses kicked but I don't want them to die in the ring.
 
Originally posted by: zerocool84
Originally posted by: ed21x
Originally posted by: Auggie
Man, some people here sound super defensive about capoeira. I think all you have to do is look at a lot of the MMA exhibitions where capos were pretty easily defeated.

You can't deny that's a great kick that lands right on that guys exposed face, but you also can't deny that capos aren't the dominating force in MMAs by a longshot.
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a ton of martial arts are actually not represented by MMA not because they aren't competetive, but because they emphasize moves that debilitate/kill their opponents. MMA is very highly regulated as you know, and rules in place to protect the chest, neck, back of the head, back, nether regions, and ankle are there to keep the sport safe and unfortunately limited. When up against a typical martial artist in asia, a MMA fighter isn't going to get beat, but killed, so i don't think the MMA is a very good yardstick for what is 'dominating.'
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Well yea and I'm glad it's regulated cus umm we'd have guys getting their nuts or eyeballs ripped out all the time in the ring. I'm a guy and I love seeing people get their asses kicked but I don't want them to be castrated or blinded in the ring.
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Originally posted by: ed21x
Originally posted by: Auggie
Man, some people here sound super defensive about capoeira. I think all you have to do is look at a lot of the MMA exhibitions where capos were pretty easily defeated.

You can't deny that's a great kick that lands right on that guys exposed face, but you also can't deny that capos aren't the dominating force in MMAs by a longshot.
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a ton of martial arts are actually not represented by MMA not because they aren't competetive, but because they emphasize moves that debilitate/kill their opponents. MMA is very highly regulated as you know, and rules in place to protect the chest, neck, back of the head, back, nether regions, and ankle are there to keep the sport safe and unfortunately limited. When up against a typical martial artist in asia, a MMA fighter isn't going to get beat, but killed, so i don't think the MMA is a very good yardstick for what is 'dominating.'
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Well its also a fight in a ring where the opponent is expecting you to attack him so I doubt those tactics would work anyways since now both opponents can use them.

Its not difficult to stomp on someones Toes and then kick them in the nutsack when they aern't expecting it.

Besides that Chinese Martial Artists always lose to Muay Thai Boxers because Muay Thai boxers actually fight. Martial Arts competition emphasize making "hits" and take downs but no one actually gets punched. Its like a boxing match where it counts as long as you touch the person but does not really matter if it hurts them.

MMA is also a mixture of martial arts so its not necessarily true that the mma fighter lacks the skillset of a regular martial artists.

Most MMA fighters come from a particular martial arts background.

Albeit Royce Gracie has given the same complaint but he also complains about weight classes. I think he won most of his outrageous fights because most of his opponents were like Kimbo Slice; strong but untrained so they never knew what to do against actually techniques.
 
Capoeira's only viable weapons are long-range, basically round house or spinning kicks and back-fists, albiet very unconventional ones. You close that range, there is nothing in Capoeira to deal with it. They have no other choice but to use the same stuff everyone else is using; boxing, grappling, and submissions.
 
Originally posted by: ed21x

a ton of martial arts are actually not represented by MMA not because they aren't competetive, but because they emphasize moves that debilitate/kill their opponents. MMA is very highly regulated as you know, and rules in place to protect the chest, neck, back of the head, back, nether regions, and ankle are there to keep the sport safe and unfortunately limited. When up against a typical martial artist in asia, a MMA fighter isn't going to get beat, but killed, so i don't think the MMA is a very good yardstick for what is 'dominating.'
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Your logic fails imo. If they cant fight MMA because their "deadly moves" are removed doesnt that mean theyre inferior in boxing, grappling and such? They will have a hard time executing those moves if they are being knocked out, chocked etc.

And Capoeira is a joke. Its based on such idiocy that it suprises the opponent. Im sure youve all played your share of FPS and know how noobs have sometimes caught you off guard. Doing something so stupid, you just froze in awe. That noob does capoeira.

All it takes is to watch a video like that and form a gameplan. Like closing the gap the secod the match starts. Or if you dont care much for the eterntainment factor, just go lay on the ground...
 
Originally posted by: Mardeth
Originally posted by: ed21x

a ton of martial arts are actually not represented by MMA not because they aren't competetive, but because they emphasize moves that debilitate/kill their opponents. MMA is very highly regulated as you know, and rules in place to protect the chest, neck, back of the head, back, nether regions, and ankle are there to keep the sport safe and unfortunately limited. When up against a typical martial artist in asia, a MMA fighter isn't going to get beat, but killed, so i don't think the MMA is a very good yardstick for what is 'dominating.'
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Your logic fails imo. If they cant fight MMA because their "deadly moves" are removed doesnt that mean theyre inferior in boxing, grappling and such? They will have a hard time executing those moves if they are being knocked out, chocked etc.

And Capoeira is a joke. Its based on such idiocy that it suprises the opponent. Im sure youve all played your share of FPS and know how noobs have sometimes caught you off guard. Doing something so stupid, you just froze in awe. That noob does capoeira.

All it takes is to watch a video like that and form a gameplan. Like closing the gap the secod the match starts. Or if you dont care much for the eterntainment factor, just go lay on the ground...
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I don't think his logic is flawed at all.

If you're unable to use a large part of your art, it's a significant handicap. I guess you're implying a boxer should be able to box equally well even when told he can't jab. :roll:
 
not only does that look useless (though is neat to watch) it waste a lot of energy. no way they are going to keep that up for 3 (or 5) 5 minute rounds. Not to mention the guy leaves himself open to well anything.

 
Originally posted by: theflyingpig
Originally posted by: randay
Originally posted by: theflyingpig
Originally posted by: randay
it was a clean shot right on the button, how is that luck? just because its difficult? or because you cant believe capoeira is legit?
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lol, it was luck. Capoeira is a joke. Everyone knows this.
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yeah, especially that guy who got his shit kicked in.
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You are obviously not aware of how often Capoeira practitioners get beat down. It was luck.
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im well aware of how capoeira is crap for mma. but that doesnt change the fact that in this fight, capoeira worked perfectly.
 
Originally posted by: randay
Originally posted by: theflyingpig
Originally posted by: randay
Originally posted by: theflyingpig
Originally posted by: randay
it was a clean shot right on the button, how is that luck? just because its difficult? or because you cant believe capoeira is legit?
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lol, it was luck. Capoeira is a joke. Everyone knows this.
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yeah, especially that guy who got his shit kicked in.
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You are obviously not aware of how often Capoeira practitioners get beat down. It was luck.
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im well aware of how capoeira is crap for mma. but that doesnt change the fact that in this fight, capoeira worked perfectly.
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perhaps in a street fight. odds are they aren't going to be fighting someone with any/much training. but if someone knows what they are doing teh capoeira guy is going to get beat.

i can see just rushing htem and picking them up. that showy stuff is not going to be usefull in a real fight. IF they have training they won't be doing all that anyway. it waste energy and leaves them open.
 
Originally posted by: ed21x

and capoeira is all about overwhelming your opponent with a flurry of moves. It's very all-or-nothing, but very hard to defend against when the practitioner throws his entire body into every kick.
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Most don't know the real reason for the style of it.
 
Originally posted by: rivan
Originally posted by: Mardeth
Originally posted by: ed21x

a ton of martial arts are actually not represented by MMA not because they aren't competetive, but because they emphasize moves that debilitate/kill their opponents. MMA is very highly regulated as you know, and rules in place to protect the chest, neck, back of the head, back, nether regions, and ankle are there to keep the sport safe and unfortunately limited. When up against a typical martial artist in asia, a MMA fighter isn't going to get beat, but killed, so i don't think the MMA is a very good yardstick for what is 'dominating.'
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Your logic fails imo. If they cant fight MMA because their "deadly moves" are removed doesnt that mean theyre inferior in boxing, grappling and such? They will have a hard time executing those moves if they are being knocked out, chocked etc.

And Capoeira is a joke. Its based on such idiocy that it suprises the opponent. Im sure youve all played your share of FPS and know how noobs have sometimes caught you off guard. Doing something so stupid, you just froze in awe. That noob does capoeira.

All it takes is to watch a video like that and form a gameplan. Like closing the gap the secod the match starts. Or if you dont care much for the eterntainment factor, just go lay on the ground...
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I don't think his logic is flawed at all.

If you're unable to use a large part of your art, it's a significant handicap. I guess you're implying a boxer should be able to box equally well even when told he can't jab. :roll:
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Rivan is correct. There are a lot of restricted moves that wouldn't be restricted in any sort of real life-or-death altercation. Compressions come to mind, and I believe headbutts are also banned. Destruction of joints and bones is of course banned, another example of what some martial arts have specific moves for that are not usable in MMA.
 
Capoeira is not as much of a martial art as it is a dance, exercise and display of physical prowess.

Capoeira originated in Brazil by the black slaves. The slaves were not allowed to fight for obvious reasons. In order to practice fighting techniques and stay in shape they developed Capoeira, which appears to be more of a dance to the slave owners. This is why all the moves are over the top, not practical, and exhausting.

Today in Brazil, Capoeira is practiced for culture, history, exercise and social reasons. Nearly every small city in Brazil has a goverment funded capoeira recreation center where all the kids/teenagers/etc. can gather a few times a week to bang on drums, yell really loud and practice cool moves. This keeps these same kids off the streets causing trouble. They are fully aware that it is not a true fighting style and is not practical at all in the real world or any kind of MMA. They don't pretend it is. Anybody serious about martial arts and MMA/hurting other people walk down the street to the local Brazilian Ju Jitsu hut, which is arguably the best martial art in the world.
 
Originally posted by: Alienwho
Capoeira is not as much of a martial art as it is a dance, exercise and display of physical prowess.

Capoeira originated in Brazil by the black slaves. The slaves were not allowed to fight for obvious reasons. In order to practice fighting techniques and stay in shape they developed Capoeira, which appears to be more of a dance to the slave owners. This is why all the moves are over the top, not practical, and exhausting.

Today in Brazil, Capoeira is practiced for culture, history, exercise and social reasons. Nearly every small city in Brazil has a goverment funded capoeira recreation center where all the kids/teenagers/etc. can gather a few times a week to bang on drums, yell really loud and practice cool moves. This keeps these same kids off the streets causing trouble. They are fully aware that it is not a true fighting style and is not practical at all in the real world or any kind of MMA. They don't pretend it is. Anybody serious about martial arts and MMA/hurting other people walk down the street to the local Brazilian Ju Jitsu hut, which is arguably the best martial art in the world.
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BJJ is good if you're on the ground. Muay Thai is good if you're standing. a mix of both makes you incredibly versatile and deadly.

there is no one ultimate martial art. each has its own unique strengths and weaknesses.
 
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