Capitalism is no longer needed

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Hayabusa Rider

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Since I can't get an answer as to what "laws of nature" are, I'll give an example.

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How does that replace capitalism?
 

IronWing

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Since I can't get an answer as to what "laws of nature" are, I'll give an example.

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How does that replace capitalism?

You have one too many negative signs on line fourteen. What you have there is a script for Grecian Formula, not an economic system. Failure is hardly original Mr. Jones.
 

Ruptga

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I saw this thread title and hoped for a well-written or at least interesting OP, looks like I'm leaving disappointed.
 

spidey07

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We live in a time of post scarcity and the profit mechanism which is inherent to free market capitalism is no longer needed. We should follow the system of nature, not a monetary one

Yes, let us follow the system of nature. By all means we REALLY need to do that.

You see, I can get much more than you by my labor and mind. I will horde and gather all that I can. I will make my pile of resources so large it will boggle your mind, than that pile of resources will make more.

We need to let Darwinism and evolution work, let it work.
 

rudeguy

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Yes, let us follow the system of nature. By all means we REALLY need to do that.

You see, I can get much more than you by my labor and mind. I will horde and gather all that I can. I will make my pile of resources so large it will boggle your mind, than that pile of resources will make more.

We need to let Darwinism and evolution work, let it work.

What up Spidey? How ya been?

Don't see you around these parts very often anymore. Hope things are going well for you and your family.

Merry Christmas!
 

IronWing

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Yes, let us follow the system of nature. By all means we REALLY need to do that.

You see, I can get much more than you by my labor and mind. I will horde and gather all that I can. I will make my pile of resources so large it will boggle your mind, than that pile of resources will make more.

We need to let Darwinism and evolution work, let it work.
Spidey, I thought you were already doing this.
 

Red Squirrel

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The best kind of system would be one that is friendly towards small business. Eliminate patents, copyright and all that crap (only big corporations can realistically afford that and have the resources to think of every little thing to patent not to mention the resources to sue everyone) and get rid of lobbying and all the influence corps can have on the government and vise versa. The government should not be able to help corps and corps should not be able to help the government. If there's one thing China has right is the way businesses work. Look at all the product rip offs. That's a GOOD thing. If I come up with a product idea and someone decides to rip it off and recreate it, and they can do it for cheaper, or improve on it, then all the power to them. This is what you call healthy competition. It provides the consumer more choices, and more business opportunities for people to try and see if they came make an existing product better, cheaper, or find other reason to convince people they should buy it.

Here, all the laws favor big corps. You can't even make a basic youtube promo video these days without being flagged for copyright because some big corp owns a song you used or something.

Capitalism is evil, corps have one goal and only one goal, and it's to maximize profits, at the expense of consumers and at the expense of employees.

CEO: "We only made 44.32 billion this year, that's only 3.1b more than last year and our goal was 5. Time to lay off a bunch of people, and lower product quality. Hey, we can skip all the health and safety stuff too!" CEO gets a bonus. 30,000 people are out of a job.
 

Vapid Cabal

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The best kind of system would be one that is friendly towards small business. Eliminate patents, copyright and all that crap (only big corporations can realistically afford that and have the resources to think of every little thing to patent not to mention the resources to sue everyone) and get rid of lobbying and all the influence corps can have on the government and vise versa. The government should not be able to help corps and corps should not be able to help the government. If there's one thing China has right is the way businesses work. Look at all the product rip offs. That's a GOOD thing. If I come up with a product idea and someone decides to rip it off and recreate it, and they can do it for cheaper, or improve on it, then all the power to them. This is what you call healthy competition. It provides the consumer more choices, and more business opportunities for people to try and see if they came make an existing product better, cheaper, or find other reason to convince people they should buy it.

Here, all the laws favor big corps. You can't even make a basic youtube promo video these days without being flagged for copyright because some big corp owns a song you used or something.

Capitalism is evil, corps have one goal and only one goal, and it's to maximize profits, at the expense of consumers and at the expense of employees.

CEO: "We only made 44.32 billion this year, that's only 3.1b more than last year and our goal was 5. Time to lay off a bunch of people, and lower product quality. Hey, we can skip all the health and safety stuff too!" CEO gets a bonus. 30,000 people are out of a job.


You have it wrong, corporations now OWN those that create new law(s).
 

zinfamous

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Yes, let us follow the system of nature. By all means we REALLY need to do that.

You see, I can get much more than you by my labor and mind. I will horde and gather all that I can. I will make my pile of resources so large it will boggle your mind, than that pile of resources will make more.

We need to let Darwinism and evolution work, let it work.

well, that is nature, though. There are no real Darwinian laws that govern social structure, or even economics. Call it what you will, but the mechanics would not be related to natural selection or "fitness" in the Darwinian sense.

:colbert:
 

Red Squirrel

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You have it wrong, corporations now OWN those that create new law(s).

Yeah that's kind of what I'm saying, but it also goes both ways at times, I'm sure. But yeah Corporations pretty much own the ones that make law, you are absolutely right.

Ex scenario: Government ask's Microsoft to track all user's activity, Microsoft says, well, that's going to cost us, can you give us something in return? Government passes a new law such as ACTA that makes it easier for MS to get their way with pirates. (just a hypothetical scenario).
 
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Ruptga

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well, that is nature, though. There are no real Darwinian laws that govern social structure, or even economics. Call it what you will, but the mechanics would not be related to natural selection or "fitness" in the Darwinian sense.

:colbert:

You there, stop talking sense! This is obviously a silly thread, a place for oblivious questions and baseless assertions that make me feel good about myself.
 

spidey07

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well, that is nature, though. There are no real Darwinian laws that govern social structure, or even economics. Call it what you will, but the mechanics would not be related to natural selection or "fitness" in the Darwinian sense.

:colbert:

Actually there are and if you haven't figured that out yet you are well behind the curve. Once I figured that out life became much more "simple". Allow nature to work and don't fight it. Use it to your advantage.
 

Franz316

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Yes, let us follow the system of nature. By all means we REALLY need to do that.

You see, I can get much more than you by my labor and mind. I will horde and gather all that I can. I will make my pile of resources so large it will boggle your mind, than that pile of resources will make more.

We need to let Darwinism and evolution work, let it work.

That's fine expect that isn't how nature works. Nature is mainly based on interdependent, symbiotic relationships where no being takes more than what is needed to survive. Thus creating a system of equilibrium based on what is available and what is taken. There is no 'greed' in nature. The process of natural selection has become distorted and misused in order to justify a human action.

I know it's your dream to reach the top of some pyramid and dominate all, but please don't use nature as your justification. It is an insult to nature. Maybe,you should live on an island where you don't have to depend on anyone else.
 

Hayabusa Rider

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You there, stop talking sense! This is obviously a silly thread, a place for oblivious questions and baseless assertions that make me feel good about myself.

Actually there are equivalents. Particular behaviors benefit more than others in a given society.