Cape Wind project STILL being held up

[CADsortaGUY]

Nothing but hot air at a recent meeting

It sure would be nice if these NIMBYs would shut their yappers so this beneficial project could get off the ground. There is absolutely no reason it should take 6 years for it to start. Kennedy and the other NIMBYs should be ashamed of themselves. "progressive".... my ass...:roll:


UPDATE:

http://www.reuters.com/article...entNews&rpc=22&sp=true

:| Damn limo-libs.

 

[So]

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
Nothing but hot air at a recent meeting

It sure would be nice if these NIMBYs would shut their yappers so this beneficial project could get off the ground. There is absolutely no reason it should take 6 years for it to start. Kennedy and the other NIMBYs should be ashamed of themselves. "progressive".... my ass...:roll:

speaking as a power engineer, you're better spending your $$ on coal or nuclear (ideally) and letting them have their way.

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Originally posted by: So

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
Nothing but hot air at a recent meeting

It sure would be nice if these NIMBYs would shut their yappers so this beneficial project could get off the ground. There is absolutely no reason it should take 6 years for it to start. Kennedy and the other NIMBYs should be ashamed of themselves. "progressive".... my ass...:roll:

speaking as a power engineer, you're better spending your $$ on coal or nuclear (ideally) and letting them have their way.

I would agree from an immediate economic stand point, but why not use the local resource(wind) to generate power? Here in Iowa we have ever expanding wind farms and they add quite a bit to our grid without adding more coal generation. Nuclear would be quite acceptable IMO but you have an even bigger NIMBY problem with coal and Nuclear.

 

[Moonbeam]

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Originally posted by: So

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
Nothing but hot air at a recent meeting

It sure would be nice if these NIMBYs would shut their yappers so this beneficial project could get off the ground. There is absolutely no reason it should take 6 years for it to start. Kennedy and the other NIMBYs should be ashamed of themselves. "progressive".... my ass...:roll:

speaking as a power engineer, you're better spending your $$ on coal or nuclear (ideally) and letting them have their way.

I would agree from an immediate economic stand point, but why not use the local resource(wind) to generate power? Here in Iowa we have ever expanding wind farms and they add quite a bit to our grid without adding more coal generation. Nuclear would be quite acceptable IMO but you have an even bigger NIMBY problem with coal and Nuclear.

Exactly, we need to go whole hog on solar and wind as we insulate, refit, and replace our current infrastructure with high efficiency concepts. That is where the billions we wasted in Iraq should have gone.

 

[dmcowen674]

Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Exactly, we need to go whole hog on solar and wind as we insulate, refit, and replace our current infrastructure with high efficiency concepts.

That is where the billions we wasted in Iraq should have gone.

Amen

 

[heartsurgeon]

nucular

That's the answer

 

[dmcowen674]

Originally posted by: heartsurgeon
Hydrogen

That's the answer

Fixed

 

[K1052]

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: heartsurgeon
Hydrogen

That's the answer

Fixed

Hydrogen is an energy carrier not an energy source.

 

[1prophet]

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Originally posted by: So

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
Nothing but hot air at a recent meeting

It sure would be nice if these NIMBYs would shut their yappers so this beneficial project could get off the ground. There is absolutely no reason it should take 6 years for it to start. Kennedy and the other NIMBYs should be ashamed of themselves. "progressive".... my ass...:roll:

speaking as a power engineer, you're better spending your $$ on coal or nuclear (ideally) and letting them have their way.

I would agree from an immediate economic stand point, but why not use the local resource(wind) to generate power? Here in Iowa we have ever expanding wind farms and they add quite a bit to our grid without adding more coal generation. Nuclear would be quite acceptable IMO but you have an even bigger NIMBY problem with coal and Nuclear.

And what I bolded is the root cause of most of America's problems, we have been willingly brainwashed into cheaper is better, always low prices, what have you done for me lately or as the highlighted post above says "immediate economic stand point", not realizing the long term effects and consequences.

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Exactly, we need to go whole hog on solar and wind as we insulate, refit, and replace our current infrastructure with high efficiency concepts.

That is where the billions we wasted in Iraq should have gone.

Amen

Didn't take long for people to attempt to divert the subject. :| Don't you have plenty of other threads to whine about Iraq?

*********

As to moonie's on topic statements - I agree, we need more focus on efficiency concepts.

 

[Rainsford]

Originally posted by: K1052

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: heartsurgeon
Hydrogen

That's the answer

Fixed

Hydrogen is an energy carrier not an energy source.

Enough of this "one answer" crap...there can be more than one answer here, and there probably is. While I'm sure heartsurgeon loves nuclear power, it's not going to power my car any time soon. And while I'm sure Dave likes hydrogen, unless he has a magic way to produce it, it's not going to make new energy.

Hell, let's have windmills too...they are safe and efficient, and far cleaner and simpler than many alternatives. And solar is great for peak loads during the day, it produces the most energy when it's needed the most (to run AC in hot parts of the world during the middle of the day, and during working hours). Many places have great geothermal resources, why build a nuclear reactor in Iceland when they have such a huge amount of geothermal power that's easy to tap into.

I don't get it, it's like everyone would rather fight about the solution than actually try and solve the problem.

 

[ScottyB]

The Kennedys are worried about using up too much of the world's wind. They are just thinking of the children and their kites they would no longer be able to fly.

 

[Moonbeam]

Originally posted by: ScottyB
The Kennedys are worried about using up too much of the world's wind. They are just thinking of the children and their kites they would no longer be able to fly.

Links?

 

[ScottMac]

Originally posted by: ScottyB
The Kennedys are worried about using up too much of the world's wind. They are just thinking of the children and their kites they would no longer be able to fly.

Actually, I think Ted is afraid that someone will discover that he *is* the largest source of wind (at least in his part of the USA) and is afraid they'll want to put even more windmills in front of his face to capitalize on a seemingly endless source of hot air.

 

[BoberFett]

Originally posted by: ScottyB
The Kennedys are worried about using up too much of the world's wind. They are just thinking of the children and their kites they would no longer be able to fly.

I think you misunderstood it when they said "Ted Kennedy is high as a kite."

 

[Genx87]

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
Nothing but hot air at a recent meeting

It sure would be nice if these NIMBYs would shut their yappers so this beneficial project could get off the ground. There is absolutely no reason it should take 6 years for it to start. Kennedy and the other NIMBYs should be ashamed of themselves. "progressive".... my ass...:roll:

They are progressively trying to relocate it into a poorer neighborhood. Most likely a democrat stronghold and call it a gift to the people.

 

[Moonbeam]

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Exactly, we need to go whole hog on solar and wind as we insulate, refit, and replace our current infrastructure with high efficiency concepts.

That is where the billions we wasted in Iraq should have gone.

Amen

Didn't take long for people to attempt to divert the subject. :| Don't you have plenty of other threads to whine about Iraq?

*********

As to moonie's on topic statements - I agree, we need more focus on efficiency concepts.

I made no effort to divert the subject. The Iraq war and energy are intimately related, and unnecessarily so, because of our dependence of ME oil. We are in Iraq to secure the energy supply of the West and we wouldn't have to be if we put our efforts into energy independence rather than worrying about oil.

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Originally posted by: Moonbeam

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Exactly, we need to go whole hog on solar and wind as we insulate, refit, and replace our current infrastructure with high efficiency concepts.

That is where the billions we wasted in Iraq should have gone.

Amen

Didn't take long for people to attempt to divert the subject. :| Don't you have plenty of other threads to whine about Iraq?

*********

As to moonie's on topic statements - I agree, we need more focus on efficiency concepts.

I made no effort to divert the subject. The Iraq war and energy are intimately related, and unnecessarily so, because of our dependence of ME oil. We are in Iraq to secure the energy supply of the West and we wouldn't have to be if we put our efforts into energy independence rather than worrying about oil.

I don't buy that and there is no place for Iraq in this discussion of the cape wind project and wind enegy as a whole. I swear you and your types are stuck on stupid with whining about Iraq in every discussion.

 

[EagleKeeper]

They could also drop some wave generators along the bottom to assist in the grid.

 

[Mean MrMustard]

Originally posted by: ScottyB
The Kennedys are worried about using up too much of the world's wind. They are just thinking of the children and their kites they would no longer be able to fly.

As long as Ted's around, the world doesn't need to worry about the loss of wind.

 

[imported_Shivetya]

Originally posted by: Moonbeam

Originally posted by: ScottyB
The Kennedys are worried about using up too much of the world's wind. They are just thinking of the children and their kites they would no longer be able to fly.

Links?

too stupid or your sarcasm meter is lost in the mail?

 

[imported_Shivetya]

Originally posted by: Moonbeam

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Exactly, we need to go whole hog on solar and wind as we insulate, refit, and replace our current infrastructure with high efficiency concepts.

That is where the billions we wasted in Iraq should have gone.

Amen

Didn't take long for people to attempt to divert the subject. :| Don't you have plenty of other threads to whine about Iraq?

*********

As to moonie's on topic statements - I agree, we need more focus on efficiency concepts.

I made no effort to divert the subject. The Iraq war and energy are intimately related, and unnecessarily so, because of our dependence of ME oil. We are in Iraq to secure the energy supply of the West and we wouldn't have to be if we put our efforts into energy independence rather than worrying about oil.

We do not get a majority of our oil from the Middle East. In fact they are well behind Canada and Mexico.

We would have a much bigger payoff using our own resources.

 

[K1052]

Originally posted by: Shivetya

Originally posted by: Moonbeam

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Exactly, we need to go whole hog on solar and wind as we insulate, refit, and replace our current infrastructure with high efficiency concepts.

That is where the billions we wasted in Iraq should have gone.

Amen

Didn't take long for people to attempt to divert the subject. :| Don't you have plenty of other threads to whine about Iraq?

*********

As to moonie's on topic statements - I agree, we need more focus on efficiency concepts.

I made no effort to divert the subject. The Iraq war and energy are intimately related, and unnecessarily so, because of our dependence of ME oil. We are in Iraq to secure the energy supply of the West and we wouldn't have to be if we put our efforts into energy independence rather than worrying about oil.

We do not get a majority of our oil from the Middle East. In fact they are well behind Canada and Mexico.

We would have a much bigger payoff using our own resources.

With the price of oil trending ever higher it is only a matter of time before it becomes economical to access our other oil resources (oil shale) on a large scale. US oil shale alone holds 2-2.5 Trillion barrels of oil. That is quite enough to collapse the oil import market for the US.

 

[EagleKeeper]

Please concentrate on the original thread topic.

Wind and why the project is having problems.

Oil dependency/extraction can easily go into the existing oil thread without any problems.


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Common Courtesy

 

[StageLeft]

Aren't there subsidized windmill farms that have cropped up and when the tax breaks left, they shut down--like there are many inactive ones in California? Is this so? If so, is it such that even if a person could get a windfarm for free it's not cost-effective to operate?

Anyway, my stance is lets get nuclear plants cranked out. It's imbecilic that we don't have more of them. Heck I live within 10 miles of one and the only time it causes me ANY problem is if I bike past it everything becomes green to look at for the next 2-3 hours (not a big deal, really).

j/k about the green.