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Capcom vs. SNK 2
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TerryMathews
Lifer
Best version is for the Dreamcast. Due to framebuffer sizing issues, all the other ports look overly jaggy.
CvS2 is a good game. I recommend.
CvS2 is a good game. I recommend.
JackBurton
Lifer
Not true, the XBox version Capcom vs SNK2:EO is nothing short of perfect. And when you combine it with Live, AWESOME! That's really all I used my original XBox for.
Skunkwourk
Diamond Member
no power stone or power stone 2?
...and the Gamecube version of Capcom vs SNK 2 didnt get great reviews. They also added in some Gamecube exclusive controls I think. Something about easier special moves but Im not sure.
TerryMathews
Lifer
Quick history lesson:
CvS2 was designed for Sega's NAOMI hardware. Which was an arcade version of the Dreamcast with support for both carts and GD-ROMs.
The Dreamcast (and NAOMI) used a smaller framebuffer than that generation of consoles. 640x400 if I'm not mistaken, with a full-screen background capability to fill in the blank space.
Really what it boils down to is a scaling issue. Rather than redrawing their sprites like SNK did, Capcom simply took sprites from older arcade games like SF3 and Darkstalkers and scaled them. So you're looking at two seperate scaling operations, arcade->CvS2->Xbox/GC/PS2 port.
DirtMcGirt
Member
This is what stopped me from buying it on the GC. A simple flick of the yellow C stick results in a special move being performed.
TerryMathews
Lifer
Roll cancelling is a glitch in the game that allows special moves to be cancelled into rolls, giving them startup invincibility. It requires very strict timing and is almost impossible to pull off consistently, but it allows you to counter through other attacks, including supers, without taking damage. Here's a video showing off roll cancelling in action.
Some people think roll cancels break the game, others think it's integral to high level play. If you like the idea of RC's, you have to get either the DC or PS2 port, they were removed from the EO versions.
And in the EO versions you can cancel special moves into supers when using the P groove, meaning there's a lot more heavily damaging combos with easy openers. Most people agree it was a stupid addition to the game, and a lot of people on XBL use and abuse it.
This is up to the user, when selecting a groove you have the option of choosing EO (easy operation) mode or normal mode. They added the EO mode to the Gamecube and Xbox ports due to the crappy layout of the stock controllers for these consoles, but it's not forced on the player.
TerryMathews
Lifer
It was the first pic that came up for cvs2 on Google Images. You don't see all the bleed and jaggies on Dhalsim? Look specifically on his left knee and around his purple gauntlets.
I really don't know why we're even debating this. You could simply use Google and see for yourself that Capcom reused old sprites and SNK drew new ones. It's not like it's some big secret.
Also FWIW, look at Garou Mark of the Wolves for an example of how much effort SNK was willing to put into their sprites. Capcom has never invested that much effort, from what I've seen.
spittledip
Diamond Member
Yeah, it is true that NeoGeo /SNK had much smoother looking characters. Always noticed it but never thought about it. I never liked NeoGeo fighting games though. I would not waste my time on CvS2.
spittledip
Diamond Member
Sure, as soon as 2008 makes a decent 2d fighting game. SF4 is coming out soon though so... hoping that is good.
I dunno, I always thought the sprites in sf3/mvc2 were among the best.
also, who drew new ones, capcom or SNK since it is a capcom game, did they make all the sprites?
I don't see how they could reuse the SNK sprites seeing as they probably can't obtain them or incorporate them the way they would like to suit their style and make them look natural so it was easier to redraw them but I still don't think they beat the capcom ones and don't see any jaggies which I don't see elsewhere.
Dhalsim has jaggies because he has muscles and bones the girl is smoother for obvious reasons.
also, who drew new ones, capcom or SNK since it is a capcom game, did they make all the sprites?
I don't see how they could reuse the SNK sprites seeing as they probably can't obtain them or incorporate them the way they would like to suit their style and make them look natural so it was easier to redraw them but I still don't think they beat the capcom ones and don't see any jaggies which I don't see elsewhere.
Dhalsim has jaggies because he has muscles and bones the girl is smoother for obvious reasons.
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