Canuck Seeks Value & Mid-range Upgrade Recommendations

Rattlin Bones

Junior Member
Sep 26, 2009
17
0
0
Hi guys! Getting ready to upgrade, and would love your take on my options. I would describe myself as a computer dabbler--I know what the core components of my system do, and generally perform my own minor upgrades. But when it comes to the finer hardware details and full CPU/Mobo upgrades, I usually appeal to techie friends or gearhead forum denizens such as yourselves for assistance. Have been out of the loop for the last few years, so outside of the minimal research I've done, I have no idea what's new and what's hot. The last time I was really into computers, dual core processors were only about to be introduced.

Getting us started:

1. What YOUR PC will be used for. That means what types of tasks you'll be performing.

All the regular stuff plus moderate gaming. I'd like to check out big titles such as Fallout 3 and Crysis, but would likely be content playing them on medium settings. No plans for heavy duty applications such as video editing.

2. What YOUR budget is. A price range is acceptable as long as it's not more than a 20% spread

Don't have a dollar amount in mind; honestly I'd like to consider both value and mid-range options. I'd like to save as much money as possible while still getting good bang for my buck.

3. What country YOU will be buying YOUR parts from.

Canada! Newegg.ca (great selection, but killer shipping IIRC) and NCIX.com are the big guys. I've also used local Toronto chains Infonec.ca, PCVillageCanada.com, and CanadaComputers.com in the past.

4. IF YOU have a brand preference. That means, are you an Intel-Fanboy, AMD-Fanboy, ATI-Fanboy, nVidia-Fanboy, Seagate-Fanboy, WD-Fanboy, etc.

Couldn't care less. I just want stability and value.

5. If YOU intend on using any of YOUR current parts, and if so, what those parts are.

I do; more on this below.

6. IF YOU have searched and/or read similar threads.

Not yet, as I consider my situation to be a little specific. Feel free to point me in the direction of anything relevant, though. I've done a bit of research/question asking elsewhere, but haven't gotten the answers I wanted.

7. IF YOU plan on overclocking or run the system at default speeds.

Honestly, I won't rule overclocking out, but I've never attempted it. I'm just too afraid of screwing something up. And I don't want the hassle of having to use aftermarket heatsinks or additional cooling. So feel free to recommend me something that can be simply overclocked, but I won't necessarily ever bother with it unless you can guarantee me that I can't botch it up.

8. What resolution YOU plan on gaming with.

1680x1050 for the foreseeable future. Would like to have the option of upgrading to a 24" monitor down the road on my new system, but only if the hardware needed to support it is affordable.

9. WHEN do you plan to build it?

Immediately, ideally. (Within the next few weeks.) I don't plan to upgrade my GPU right now, but would be interested in your recommendation as to when I should.

Current specs:

Upgrading:

- Athlon 64 3200+ (754)
- ECS GF6100-M754
- 1GB DDR
- 500 GB SATA HD
- Thermaltake 420w (I presume this will likely need to be upgraded?)
- XP Pro

Not upgrading/upgrading later:

- Some Cooler Master case
- 8800 GS 384MB
- Audigy 2 ZS
- Viewsonic VX2025wm 20.1"
- All the other basic stuff


CPU: I've been told AMD is the current way to go for value. Intel leads performance, but AMD's price just can't be beat. I've had the AMD Phenom II X2 550 Black and Athlon II X4 620 recommended to me; which is better for my purposes, and is there anything better value out there?

Motherboard: Dependent upon CPU and socket type, of course. Ideally, something that can viably be upgraded, but I'm not sure if my CPU choice will allow for that. If possible, I'd like something with 2-3 PCI slots for my older audio and TV tuner cards. Crossfire/SLI I can't imagine is anything I'll ever be interested in.

Would also be great if there were an extra IDE connection so I could use an old 80GB HD as a back-up drive. Is that possible? Or can I just go the route of using an adapter, or something? Obviously, my main drive will be SATA, or whatever the current standard is.

RAM: Whatever's best for my CPU/Mobo choice.

HD: See above. I presume 500 or 640GB is best value (and I don't need more than that). Don't know what standard and speed I want, though.

PSU: Again, what do you think I'll need? I presume my current 420W isn't enough going forward. And eventually I'll be upgrading my GPU, and perhaps going to a 24" monitor.

OS: Vista Home Premium OEM with a Windows 7 upgrade ticket is the obvious choice, I presume. Is there any sense in waiting for Oct. 22nd, since we're so close already?

GPU: This won't be a bottleneck for a little while yet, will it? I would upgrade anyway, but would rather save the cost if I can still use the 8800GS for a while. Hopefully I can snatch something up cheap when the next gen rolls around. (When is that, by the way?) Either something current-gen that's a little better that the current mid-range options, or the next-gen value-to-mid-range card to have.


Your recommendations are appreciated! I'm pliable. Thanks!

 

jae

Golden Member
Jul 31, 2001
1,034
0
76
www.facebook.com
x2 550 cpu, gigabyte 770 or 790gx AM3 mobo, 2x2gb g.skill ddr3-1600 ram, antec 500w psu, samsung 1tb, Vista HP w/ Windows 7 upgrade.
If video card has been treating you alright, hold on to it until prices drop from HD 5xxx release and GTX 3 series expected release.
 

Rattlin Bones

Junior Member
Sep 26, 2009
17
0
0
Thanks for your reply, Jae!

I have a few questions about your recommendations; sorry if I'm slow.

1. I take it the x2 550 is still the stronger processor, despite having less cores? I looked up a comparison on here, and it still leads over the X4 620 in many categories. And additional cores aren't usually of prime concern for gaming, right?

2. The main differences between the 770 and 790GX boards you mentioned is Crossfire support, right? Is there any point in the future in which you can see Crossfire being an option for low-to-mid-range systems? It seems like it's not something I need to prepare for, as upgrading to a much better single card seems to always be the best upgrade.

3. Is Gigabyte the new mobo manufacturer of choice?

4. You recommended DDR3, but those boards only mention supporting DDR2. Is it backwards compatible?

5. 500W should be powerful enough going forward for a single video card?

Thanks so much!
 

Rattlin Bones

Junior Member
Sep 26, 2009
17
0
0
Sorry for the bump, but I'm hoping someone can answer my RAM question, at least.

I'm also having trouble finding the RAM jae recommended on NewEgg. The 2x2GB kits seem to be for Intel combos, only. How much are these G.Skill sets supposed to cost?

Thanks again!