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PhoenixOrion

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Thoughts?

Need very good cooling but also on the quiet side (quietness not the highest priority).
 
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drifter106

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I got my stacker last Dec. it was a wise chose...making another system next month and trying to decide whether to have 2 cases that look the same in the house or getting a p180...

would not go wrong with a stacker by no means
 
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crimson117

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If you haven't bought something else yet, go grab a P180 for ~$148 shipped from http://www.shopblt.com/cgi-bin/shop/sho...e&thispage=01100500U011_BF09960P.shtml

I preordered last friday, it came to their PA warehouse on 6/15, shipped out evening 6/15, and UPS tried to deliver it to my NY home at 12:30p today 6/16! Pretty freakin fast for ground shipping :)

Great service, great price; only downside is no online order history, you have to contact their (very attentive) customer service team. Order status updates (confirmed, on backorder, shipped, etc.) come via email.
 
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imported_bum

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You can get a similar look with some Lian-Li cases... Not the best for sound but a fan controller helps a lot.
 
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wylecoyote

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Lian-Li v1100 isn't just an alternative... it's better. Antec got their ideas for the internal layout of the P180 from the lian-li v1100. It's so obvious. And in terms of build quality, no one comes within miles of LL. Then again, you'll have to sell a kidney and perhaps a few islands to afford the v1100.
 
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Mucker

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Originally posted by: wylecoyote
Lian-Li v1100 isn't just an alternative... it's better. Antec got their ideas for the internal layout of the P180 from the lian-li v1100. It's so obvious. And in terms of build quality, no one comes within miles of LL. Then again, you'll have to sell a kidney and perhaps a few islands to afford the v1100.
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Lian-Li 1100, better...hmmmm.....:roll:

I see a nice exterior but also flaws:

1. No front reset button
2. Front I/O nearly on the floor
3. Inferior cooling. The non standard motherboard position of the LL does not allow for a rear fan to be placed near the top where heat migrates to. Those passive grates don't do squat. Not only does the P180 have good rear fan placement, but also a top corner fan for very good air movement across the mb. Also, the rear fan grill on the LL is very restrictive as seen here: http://images.gruntville.com/images/hardware/lianli_v1100/v1100/LL10.jpg
(Should you really have to take a dremel to a $250 case???) And, not a whole lot of open area on the front for air to get into the interior also. I would say the P180 absolutely stomps the crap out of the LL 1100 in the cooling dept. Apples and oranges here folks.

Lian-Li also highjacks ideas from Antec (Compucase). Case in point, the 7B Plus. Notice how the 7B was upgraded to rear 120mm with a very unrestrictive grill. Looks clearly like a ripoff of the SuperLanboy. Needless to say, I am not too impressed with Lian-Li but I do believe their best case from a cooling standpoint is the 7B Plus. If I was an LL fan, that is the case I'd own. Myself, I am an Antec 3000b user...cool, quiet, great quality at a great price. $43 at Amazon....my favorite of the 8 Antec cases I've owned. A case to me is something I don't stare at, I do want optimal cooling though.

Honestly, I'd expect a whole heck of alot more from a $250 LL. Why perform mods on something that should never be an issue to start with. As always....my $0.02....

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wylecoyote

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You bring up good points...

1) True, no front reset button. Personally, I hadn't thought about this until now. Probably a good thing... if it was a real nusiance to me, I'm sure I would have noticed. Knock on wood. Methinks from now on, however, I will notice, so thanks.
2) the I/O is nearly on the floor... once again, good point. I try and keep my machine as aesthetically pleaseing as possible, so I plug my peripherals into the back.
3) Inferior cooling? No. It's a bit tricky, but once you get your setup right, it cools beautifully... many people have encountered issues with cooling, but a little thinking prior to assembling your machine inside a v1100b can save you alot of trouble. I won't repeat how here, because I go into it here... (a few up from the last one http://forums.anandtech.com/messageview...STARTPAGE=2&FTVAR_FORUMVIEWTMP=Linear)
As another member points out. The other thing to remember is that yes, you can get a very cheap case with lots of fans that could keep the inside of our sun at a refreshing 27c. But it won't ever be as quiet as the dampened v1100b. With ambient noise levels, I have to listen hard to hear my mahcine, and it's sitting right beside me. Point is, you have to use a little gray matter to understand how to cool a v1100b... but it's certaintly not hard, and I'm convinced it performs as well as any. However, it'll be keeping your rig cool at a fraction of the noise level.

I also don't think it's fair to compare the adoption of a certain type of fan grill to the blatant replication of an entire layout design. The P180 literally photocopies all the interal innovations that Lian-Li pioneered.

I also would saythat in terms of sheer build quality and materials, Lian-Li is so far ahead of the pack it's ridiculous.

True, the LL is 250. But I wouldn't compare it to your much cheaper case... the topic of this article was an alternative to the P180, which, on Froogle right now, is going for 140-170. I have no problem spending a hundred more to reward the company that introduced such great innovations that others are now copying.
 
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Legato895

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why is it, that the only people who have these cases are waiting for the rest of their computer?! ahhhhhh! i have my computer NOW!!!
 
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