can't wait for more android tablets to come out

[BlahBlahYouToo]

http://tech.fortune.cnn.com/2010/08/06/attention-kmart-shoppers-149-android-tablet-on-aisle-5/

$150 for this barebones model. a big FU to apple's $600 iPad.

 

[gorcorps]

I can't wait til some non phone OS tablets come out.

 

[jpeyton]

The demand is obviously there, with the quick sell-out of the Augen tablet at KMart. By this time next year, Android tablets will be plentiful and cheap, and better quality too.

 

[Anubis]

http://www.cio.com/article/602053/9_Real_iPad_Alternatives_?page=1#slideshow

 

[Patranus]

http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2093019

 

[QueBert]

http://tech.fortune.cnn.com/2010/08/06/attention-kmart-shoppers-149-android-tablet-on-aisle-5/

$150 for this barebones model. a big FU to apple's $600 iPad.

How's it even remotely a FU to Apple? Sure it's a lot cheaper, but you're getting a lot less. The 2 shouldn't even be comparable. Is a $199 netbook a big FU to a $600 laptop? A big FU to Apple would be a tablet that can compete with the iPad for $100-$200 less. This is a great product for somebody who wants an entry level Tablet that doesn't have much power. But it doesn't stand with the iPad on any level.

 

[MrX8503]

http://tech.fortune.cnn.com/2010/08/06/attention-kmart-shoppers-149-android-tablet-on-aisle-5/

$150 for this barebones model. a big FU to apple's $600 iPad.

I'm quite certain you get what you pay for.

 

[rudeguy]

we need another thread about this?

We need more trolling?

Thread fail.

 

[boomhower]

I am interested in a decent quality tablet at $200. I would rather have a decent tablet than just an e-reader. That Kmart tablet is not decent, it's just cheap.

 

[BlahBlahYouToo]

we need another thread about this?

We need more trolling?

Thread fail.

do you have a problem with me?
i don't recall personally attacking you. what the dillyo?

 

[pm]

If you guys want to debate the finer points of tablets, go ahead and do it here, but otherwise, please take it to private messages, or, better yet, let it go.


Moderator PM

 

[cbn]

Do any of these Android Tablets have a digitizer (with stylus) planned in addition to the touch screen?

 

[pm]

How is a digitizer different than a touchscreen? When I google them, the terms seem to be used interchangably. In fact the element on an iPod Touch that registers touch seem to be called a digitizer (again, according to Google).

If the difference is that you want to use a stylus, then any capacitive touchscreen will work with a conductive stylus.

 

[ViRGE]

Do any of these Android Tablets have a digitizer (with stylus) planned in addition to the touch screen?

Well the one in the article would work well with a stylus since it has a resistive touch screen (i.e. the old kind) which doesn't work well with fingers. So you'd just have to buy your own stylus.

As for the point of the article, I wouldn't get too excited about this thing. Apparently it's a piece of junk that was supposed to spend another couple of months under development first.

 

[tatteredpotato]

How is a digitizer different than a touchscreen? When I google them, the terms seem to be used interchangably. In fact the element on an iPod Touch that registers touch seem to be called a digitizer (again, according to Google).

If the difference is that you want to use a stylus, then any capacitive touchscreen will work with a conductive stylus.

A la Wikipedia:

Digitizing or digitization[1] is the representation of an object, image, sound, document or a signal (usually an analog signal) by a discrete set of its points or samples.

So it's the hardware the polls the screen and returns (X,Y). So yes they all have a digitizer.

 

[pm]

I would think that a resistive touchscreen would work with any kind of stylus - you'd just need to press hard in fact, in my opinion resistive touchscreens work better with a stylus than a finger (unless you have decent fingernails) And then, as I said, a capacitive touchscreen would work, but you'd need a conductive (ie. metallic) stylus.

 

[cbn]

How is a digitizer different than a touchscreen? When I google them, the terms seem to be used interchangably. In fact the element on an iPod Touch that registers touch seem to be called a digitizer (again, according to Google).

Not sure. When I took a lot at the following article for the Web OS HP Tablet they made special mention of "dual mode" touch screen.

http://www.slashgear.com/hp-palmpad...display-with-active-pen-input-tipped-2094740/

According to The Examiner, their source suggests HP will use a dual-mode touchscreen that combines a Wacom active digitizer with a finger-friendly multitouch capacitive layer. The pairing would mean PalmPad users could navigate with their fingers while also using a special pen stylus for accurate drawing and text entry.

If the difference is that you want to use a stylus, then any capacitive touchscreen will work with a conductive stylus.

Are these conductive stylus now common place? I found this 2009 patent article on engadget during my internet search.

http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/14/htc-files-patent-for-capacitive-stylus-with-resistive-accuracy/

Though capacitive displays are generally regarded as the easier-to-use technology for mobile touchscreens, their finger-friendliness comes at a dear price: accuracy. Because capacitive tech is incompatible with traditional styli, you're stuck fudging things with your fat digits or settling for a high-tech finger alternative that arguably creates as many problems as it solves. Don't worry, though -- HTC feels your pain, and it seems like they're looking to keep the classic stylus in the game as the company's lineup makes the inevitable transition to capacitive over the coming years. A new patent application describes a stylus with some sort of magnetically charged tip -- at first, we thought that sounded suspiciously like what Wacom does for its tablets, but unlike Wacom's tech, this would function with a traditional, seemingly unmodified capacitive display.

 

[Bateluer]

I'm definitely interested in an Android tablet. I believe all the one's currently out have resistive touch screens though. Automatic fail.

 

[tatteredpotato]

Essentially the Palm device has a capacitive layer (multitouch), and a resistive layer (more precise for styli). Both layers would need some form of digitization AFAIK.

 

[pm]

Are these conductive stylus now common place? I found this 2009 patent article on engadget during my internet search.

http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/14/h...tive-accuracy/

I am wrong. Capacitive touchscreens do not work with metallic objects at all. I tried a paperclip with my iPhone and it didn't work. I thought that maybe a paperclip wasn't conductive enough so I tried my gold wedding ring and that doesn't work either.

So ignore my post. Sorry for the bad information.

 

[TheStu]

I am wrong. Capacitive touchscreens do not work with metallic objects at all. I tried a paperclip with my iPhone and it didn't work. I thought that maybe a paperclip wasn't conductive enough so I tried my gold wedding ring and that doesn't work either.

So ignore my post. Sorry for the bad information.

You aren't totally wrong. There was a post on Gizmodo about how Koreans were using a certain brand of sausage as styli for their iPhones so they wouldn't have to unglove in winter.

So, there is a way to do it, but the capacitive screen is (I think) specially tuned to skin.

 

[gsaldivar]

Koreans using a certain brand of sausage as styli for their iPhones so they wouldn't have to unglove in winter.

Disturbing mental image.

 

[Pliablemoose]

Disturbing mental image.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=03Bno98UwEc

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[cbn]

Essentially the Palm device has a capacitive layer (multitouch), and a resistive layer (more precise for styli). Both layers would need some form of digitization AFAIK.

http://www.ruggedpcreview.com/3_definitions_active_digitizer_guide.html

If the HP Slate has technology similar to Wacom then it would have inductive technology rather than a resistive Input.

I just hope HP differentiates this product from iPad by allowing it to be hooked up to peripherals (LCD monitor and printer).

If HP decided to include some great Note Taking software being able to edit and organize on larger LCD (in addition to the Tablet) using something like "copy and paste" would be really nice.