Can't breathe in my full-face motorcycle helmet: Does someone sell nostril stints?

CZroe

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My nose is a little crooked, which leaves one side mostly constricts and, when I breathe in, the opposite nostril's outer wall collapses and seal. I can twist my nose to better seal the mostly constricted side and breathe in to demonstrate: My remaining nostril will deform and seal shut, almost like it popped inside out.

Normally, I can flare my nostrils and be just fine. When I sleep and can't consciously flare my nostrils, so I snore or breathe through my mouth unless I can prop my head up sideways on a pillow and let the gravity pulling my head down lift the part of my face touching the pillow. Though I suspect that it was worsened by some cheap medicaid surgeon the did something when I was about seven or eight (as if I wouldn't grow into my cartilage!), I've now gone over 27 years using these techniques without a big problem, until I put on my full-face motorcycle helmet and glasses. I can't flare my nostrils because there are pads pressing against my face. When I breathe out of my mouth, the visor and my glasses fog up to 0% visibility.

All my problems would be solved with a simple cone-shapped tube that I could insert into my nose, but I can't find anything like it. Lord knows, I experimented plenty when I was a teenager (straws poke, cut, are uncomfortable, and don't generally allow enough air because they aren't wide enough at the opening.

After searching the webernets, I find page after page of patents for medical devices and farm animals (why would you need to prop open a horse's nostrils?). I did find one thing that might be what I'm looking for, but I can't get a bigger picture or better product description. The pacakaging looks way too much like those useless nasil strips that stick to the skin and lift (useless as my primary constriction is much higher up and my skin is too oily and I will sweat on the road).

Any ideas? Am I going to be the only guy on the road with this problem?
 

boomerang

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Physicianss? Doctors that can't spell I guess.

Sorry, but I have nothing to offer. The second "s" just hit me funny.
 

JulesMaximus

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Dude, shoving tubes up your nose isn't the answer. :laugh:

Just get a pin lock visor for your helmet. I have one for my Shoei and it doesn't fog up at all even on the coldest mornings.

What kind of helmet are you using?

Link to article about pin lock.
 

halik

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I breathe through my mouth most of the time (same story... screwy nose cartilage) and don't really have any serious problems with my helmet fogging up.

Try buying a helmet with a lot of ventilation... my Arai has holes left and right, so even when i do fog it up, it's gone in a second.
 

CZroe

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Originally posted by: boomerang
Physicianss? Doctors that can't spell I guess.

Sorry, but I have nothing to offer. The second "s" just hit me funny.

I see "constricts" where I meant "constricted" but I missed it after restructuring the statement... Is that what you mean? :D

Edit: Also found "shapped" instead of "shaped" and "nasil" instead of "nasal" and a seriously typoed "packaging," but nothing with two double S that shouldn't have it. ;)

Originally posted by: halik
I breathe through my mouth most of the time (same story... screwy nose cartilage) and don't really have any serious problems with my helmet fogging up.

Try buying a helmet with a lot of ventilation... my Arai has holes left and right, so even when i do fog it up, it's gone in a second.

It's the glasses that really fog. They sell anti-fog visors, but my glasses are 100% opaque. Yes, it has vents, but they only work when you are moving. It fogged up so fast in hot Georgia weather (a few seconds really) that I know stop lights would disable me even if it isn't cold outside.
 

LTC8K6

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Breathe Right Strips? Is that what you meant earlier.

I think they are useless, too.

 
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Originally posted by: CZroe


All my problems would be solved with a simple cone-shapped tube that I could insert into my nose, but I can't find anything like it. Lord knows, I experimented plenty when I was a teenager (straws poke, cut, are uncomfortable, and don't generally allow enough air because they aren't wide enough at the opening.

Drinking straws. You get bonus points for using crazy straws.

 

boomerang

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Originally posted by: CZroe
Originally posted by: boomerang
Physicianss? Doctors that can't spell I guess.

Sorry, but I have nothing to offer. The second "s" just hit me funny.

I see "constricts" where I meant "constricted" but I missed it after restructuring the statement... Is that what you mean? :D
No, no, the link to the Amazon site. The product is "Developed by Physicianss."
 

CZroe

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Originally posted by: LTC8K6
Breathe Right Strips? Is that what you meant earlier.

I think they are useless, too.

Maybe you could modify some nose or ear plugs?

Yeah, those things. I can't think of any stiff enough ear plugs, and I've never seen nose plugs, but if I can find something long enough to hold the deepest and thinnest part open while not impeding airflow too much itself, I'll be sure to drill it out and make it hallow. Thanks!
 

mooseracing

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Maybe I missed it but do you need a full face helmet? Why not buy a half or a different open style and just wear glasses?
 

Chunkee

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Go see a plastic surgeon or an ENT...this can be helped at the root of the problem..your shnoz
 

TheSlamma

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Originally posted by: Chunkee
Go see a plastic surgeon or an ENT...this can be helped at the root of the problem..your shnoz
The ENT's I have consulted always seem really reluctant to do it, and in my case I even have pollups and they won't do it unless I get really bad.
 

jagec

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Originally posted by: mooseracing
Maybe I missed it but do you need a full face helmet? Why not buy a half or a different open style and just wear glasses?

Here's why. Over a third of crashes impact the chin bar.

If it's the glasses that fog up and not the visor, contacts might help...
 

Baked

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Originally posted by: jagec

Here's why. Over a third of crashes impact the chin bar.

If it's the glasses that fog up and not the visor, contacts might help...

Damn! I like how those "cool" guys on American Chopper always wear the helmet that only covers covers their dome. Why bother.
 

CZroe

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Originally posted by: nakedfrog
Ear plug with a hole bored through it?

They make solid earplugs?

Originally posted by: mooseracing
Maybe I missed it but do you need a full face helmet? Why not buy a half or a different open style and just wear glasses?

I know they already answered this, but I'll also point out that these helmets require goggles by law. Goggles don't work too well with glasses! ;)

Originally posted by: Chunkee
Go see a plastic surgeon or an ENT...this can be helped at the root of the problem..your shnoz

What is an ENT? Also, surgery is what likely screwed it up to the point it is today...

I certainly didn't have problems as bad as I did in my teenage years before they "fixed" a problem I was too young to know I had. Basically, some doctor must've said that it was too obstructed to ignore so my mother, raising twins on wellfare with no additional income, had medicaid pay for some surgery. Improved airflow or not (probably not), the fact remains that these cheap surgeons left me with a crooked and constricted nose to live with. I certainly don't have money for cosmetic surgery and anyone else is likely to do as crappy a job as the original ones.

Originally posted by: TheSlamma
Originally posted by: Chunkee
Go see a plastic surgeon or an ENT...this can be helped at the root of the problem..your shnoz
The ENT's I have consulted always seem really reluctant to do it, and in my case I even have pollups and they won't do it unless I get really bad.

What are pollups? It sounds like we are describing a colonoscopy here. :D
 

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Originally posted by: jagec
Originally posted by: mooseracing
Maybe I missed it but do you need a full face helmet? Why not buy a half or a different open style and just wear glasses?

Here's why. Over a third of crashes impact the chin bar.

So have statistics gone done for fubared chins? I don't remember many closed face helmets before the mid to late 80's. They were always the open 3/4 with the bubble.


Originally posted by: CZroe
Originally posted by: mooseracing
Maybe I missed it but do you need a full face helmet? Why not buy a half or a different open style and just wear glasses?

I know they already answered this, but I'll also point out that these helmets require goggles by law. Goggles don't work too well with glasses! ;)


Prescrip gogles.

This is your state law? I thought msot states allowed glasses, you just needed some shielding for your eyes if the helmet didn't cover them or if you didn't have a windshield.

When I was younger though I can't remember any cop that looked twice at not wearing glassess with an open helmet.
 

jagec

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Originally posted by: mooseracing
Originally posted by: jagec
Originally posted by: mooseracing
Maybe I missed it but do you need a full face helmet? Why not buy a half or a different open style and just wear glasses?

Here's why. Over a third of crashes impact the chin bar.

So have statistics gone done for fubared chins? I don't remember many closed face helmets before the mid to late 80's. They were always the open 3/4 with the bubble.

I'm not sure. To be fair, the numbers are a LITTLE skewed, since the chin bar sticks out quite a bit more than your actual chin would. Still, I wouldn't trade that protection for anything when I ride. Not to mention the number of big bugs that I've heard go WHAM! off my face shield.

Oh, and here's another reason to wear a full-face helmet (stolen from ADVrider:)
An old boss of mine once told me a story about his college roommate I think you'll enjoy.

His buddy was riding his bike without a face shield on the Gunflint Trail in northern Minnesota. At some point in the ride, a June Bug struck him in the face. (SIDEBAR: For those of you unfamiliar with the June Bug, it's a rather large beetle about the size of the last section of your ring finger.) Anyway...so this bug hits him in the nose at 60 mph. The force of the impact drives the insect up his nostril, thru his nasal passage, and into his sinus cavity.

ALIVE.

For the next 20 miles, he has a very large beetle (claws, wings, antennae, and all) inside his head desperately trying to make its way out. By the time he reached the medical center in Grand Marais on the shore of Lake Superior, he said he knew exactly what it felt like to be insane. Yikes-O-Rama!
 

CZroe

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Originally posted by: jagec
Originally posted by: mooseracing
Originally posted by: jagec
Originally posted by: mooseracing
Maybe I missed it but do you need a full face helmet? Why not buy a half or a different open style and just wear glasses?

Here's why. Over a third of crashes impact the chin bar.

So have statistics gone done for fubared chins? I don't remember many closed face helmets before the mid to late 80's. They were always the open 3/4 with the bubble.

I'm not sure. To be fair, the numbers are a LITTLE skewed, since the chin bar sticks out quite a bit more than your actual chin would. Still, I wouldn't trade that protection for anything when I ride. Not to mention the number of big bugs that I've heard go WHAM! off my face shield.

Oh, and here's another reason to wear a full-face helmet (stolen from ADVrider:)
An old boss of mine once told me a story about his college roommate I think you'll enjoy.

His buddy was riding his bike without a face shield on the Gunflint Trail in northern Minnesota. At some point in the ride, a June Bug struck him in the face. (SIDEBAR: For those of you unfamiliar with the June Bug, it's a rather large beetle about the size of the last section of your ring finger.) Anyway...so this bug hits him in the nose at 60 mph. The force of the impact drives the insect up his nostril, thru his nasal passage, and into his sinus cavity.

ALIVE.

For the next 20 miles, he has a very large beetle (claws, wings, antennae, and all) inside his head desperately trying to make its way out. By the time he reached the medical center in Grand Marais on the shore of Lake Superior, he said he knew exactly what it felt like to be insane. Yikes-O-Rama!

I hit a june bug or a rose beetle while riding the Great Georgia Scream Machine (roller coaster) at Six Flags Over Georgia. It had been advertised as running backward only a few days earlier, and I sure wish it had been that night! I was in the very front with my friend and the park was closing. As we crested the second or third hump, I tried to say something to my friend but as soon as I opened my mouth I felt a hit on my "two front teef" and tasted a nasty spray of guts and exoskeleton at the back of my throat. I coughed and spit (no one was behind us) for the rest of the ride while my friend wondered what the hell was wrong with me. The bug was completely pulverized, but I know by the taste, smell, and "crack" sound/feel that it was either a june bug or a Japanese rose beetle. I did a lot of bug hunting as a kid and, no, I didn't taste-test them. ;)