CANON ZR20 Digital Camcorder Kit $253 after MIR + MSN + Fatc@sh

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invinciblesuperchan

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Just a few comments about this camera...

First off, I am a total snob when it comes to photography equipment in general. I have used this camera quite a bit, and I would say that it is a great camera for shooting parties or family events or what have you, but don't expect broadcast quality video. Be aware that the low light shooting in this camera is not very clear/detailed. Unless you are planning to shoot in a bright area or something like a concert under bright lights, your picture quality will be very dark. You can make some sweet home video with this camera, we shot some snowboarding footage on a local mountain and it looked great.

I don't want to deter anyone who in interested, but I just want to make sure that people are expecting a consumer quality camera. The sound on the on board mic is very poor. Try to use an external mic whenever possible. The still photo feature is a joke. Don't think that this camera will replace your digital still camera.

One last thing, if you are going to use a miniDV camera with Premier or After Effects they will only work with the Microsoft DV driver. 90% of all IEEE 1394 (firewire) cards use the Texas Instruments chipset, and the TI drivers are not compatible with most Adobe software. Also I havent tried this myself, but I've heard that Sony's iLink has some issues with premier too. If you can find one, try to get a fire wire card that doesn't have the Texas Instruments Chip set, it will work, but you need the Microsoft DV Drivers and it is a pain to get it all working. (Check the Adobe site for instructions to remove the texas instruments drivers.)

Hopefully this is was helpful. This is one of my favourite entry-level consumer cameras, and I would recomend it strongly. Just remember that at the low end, you get great value for your money, but you have make some comprimises.

Loren.
 

BoBoB

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Jan 16, 2002
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SuperChan,

Thanks for the insight. on the camera.

(1) I own a Canon XL-1 and 2 GL-1s... I need the ZR-20 for parties and such because I hate bringing around the expensive ones, lol. (And, both XL-1 and GL-1 attract a lot of attention dude to size, etc. The ZR-20 is much easier to sneak into raves/concerts/etc...) Also, I totally agree with you on the mic thing. I would recommend an external for the ZR-20 and the GL-1. I have been extremely impresssed with the XL-1s sound though.

(2) I called the people at American Express twice again today... the first one told me "No websites, period." When asked if it was a new policy they said they didn't know. The second time I called they said "No web pages" but also added that it was up to the CSR to determine what's acceptable when a reciept is faxed in... this still leaves me a bit unsure. I would have to have to spend $700+ (ackk!!) for this camera, and then have the rebate not work...
 

BoBoB

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Jan 16, 2002
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I've called once or twice a day for the last week. Every single CSR has told me that I can't pricematch to anything online... so that leaves me wondering how you guys are doing it...?
 

Perc

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Feb 28, 2001
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did anyone get the msn or canon rebates yet??! or even the blue pricematch money back
 

gehct

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Jul 16, 2001
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didn;t get amex blue yet, but I got email from msn asking for adress to send reward to. hoping to get it shortly.
 

gehct

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Jul 16, 2001
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just a quick note,

I jsut got my amex BVG check....... now waiting for the rest
 

Perc

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Feb 28, 2001
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did anyone get the tripod / carrying case? i didnt get a canon brand carrying case :(
 

gehct

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hello all,
after calling canon for about 2 months every other week they finally got back to me today saying that they just send out my check - no reason mo explaination... so if you are still waiting I suggest you call them up.
BTW they are very freindly on the phone - jsut they know nothing - also there is barely any wait time so good luck!
 

Bob151

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Apr 13, 2000
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By law, companies are required to send rebates within the time frame promised, or if no time is specified, within 30 days.

http://www.ftc.gov/bcp/conline/pubs/alerts/rebatealrt.htm

Are they in violation? What was the time frame promised? I don't know the details of this rebate.

Even if they are, don't count on this FTC administration to give a hoot about consumer protections.

I send all my large rebates certified with return receipt, so when companies tell me that they received something on 5/14 when I have a return receipt signed by the receiver on 4/8, I know they are LYING.

 

hotstuff2000

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Aug 3, 2001
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I dont get it.. is this deal dead or what? Neither of the links to the camdera you provide work anymore :( and when I try to search manually for that model number it is not found--only zr 45 and above. Is this model already discontinued a week later? Perhaps that explains the discount. Also, the rebate is gone as well.. oh well. i was waiting until some of the people that said "I'm attempting pricematch, will post results shortly" informed me whether they were successful or not before I ordered. I can afford a $300 camcorder, but thats about it.
Unless anyone has any more info, I guess I"ll just wait until the next deal like this is posted online.
 

hotstuff2000

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Aug 3, 2001
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This MSN $100 cash back thing is too suspicious for me. There's no mention of it on passport.com that I could find, and there are NO OTHER articles in anandtech current forums about this. Isn't this the kind of thing where you could get $100 cash back on ANY purchase over the minimum amount? So shouldnt it be combined for awesome deals on all sorts of things, ie LCD monitors for really cheap? I find this too suspicous with no info, so please post a link for more details. The only thing I found was some holiday thing that ended in 2001.
 

RossMAN

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Feb 24, 2000
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hotstuff2000,

1) Did you notice the original post in this thread is dated 11/29/2001, that's almost 7 MONTHS AGO!!!.
2) I can personally vouch that the MSN Passport 20% off / $100 off was valid, because I did a similiar deal and received my rebate check a few weeks.
3) If you're still wondering what's going on ... this deal is DEAD DEAD DEAD ...
 

RossMAN

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Also PhotoAlley.com had horrible customer service from what I heard, I think they went out of business and were bought out by ritzcamera.com