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Canon IP4300 printer for $100 - $40MIR = $60 (June 10 through 16)

Need a bit more info ,maybe a byte.
where is the sale ,a link would be nice as would additional info about the product and seller.
 
 
I presume this is comparable to the two 4200's I've bought. 'Very nice units: reliable, reasonably high quality, duplex (two-sided printing), and capable of printing CD/DVD's*. I've mainly used it for standard printing, but have done a couple of hundred photo's and have generally been pleased with the color fidelity of those.

The ink's aren't the cheapest, so if you're a high-volume user something else might make sense. And, there are probably other printers capable of better photo printing [probably using other-than-inkjet technology].

*CD/DVD printing: this is freely available for everyone elsewhere in the world, but has been "prevented" by some patent issues[?] in the US. To re-enable it requires (1) modest skills [remove plastic cover plate, reset internal "country" mode by button-pressings, download s/w, alter Registry OR reload s/w]; (2) make-or-buy [*Bay] A CD carrier; (3) buy printable CD/DVD's. Ref: http://pixma-faq.periastron.com/
 
Originally posted by: Basilisk
I presume this is comparable to the two 4200's I've bought. 'Very nice units: reliable, reasonably high quality, duplex (two-sided printing), and capable of printing CD/DVD's*. I've mainly used it for standard printing, but have done a couple of hundred photo's and have generally been pleased with the color fidelity of those.

The ink's aren't the cheapest, so if you're a high-volume user something else might make sense. And, there are probably other printers capable of better photo printing [probably using other-than-inkjet technology].

*CD/DVD printing: this is freely available for everyone elsewhere in the world, but has been "prevented" by some patent issues[?] in the US. To re-enable it requires (1) modest skills [remove plastic cover plate, reset internal "country" mode by button-pressings, download s/w, alter Registry OR reload s/w]; (2) make-or-buy [*Bay] A CD carrier; (3) buy printable CD/DVD's. Ref: http://pixma-faq.periastron.com/
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1. The IP4300 is equal to the IP5200 in photo quality. It has twice the nozzles that the 4200 came with.

2. Canon inks are pretty expensive but using high quality bulk ink such as Hobbicolors or Inktec will save you bundles and the carts are a breeze to refill.

3. All the best photoprinters are inkjet. They have a wider color gamut then Laser. If want better printer I would recommend the Canon IP6700, Pro9000 or Pro9500 but they are expensive.

4. For cd printing instructions I recommend this site: http://pixma.damnmachine.com
 
Originally posted by: 13Gigatons

1. The IP4300 is equal to the IP5200 in photo quality. It has twice the nozzles that the 4200 came with.

2. Canon inks are pretty expensive but using high quality bulk ink such as Hobbicolors or Inktec will save you bundles and the carts are a breeze to refill.

3. All the best photoprinters are inkjet. They have a wider color gamut then Laser. If want better printer I would recommend the Canon IP6700, Pro9000 or Pro9500 but they are expensive.

4. For cd printing instructions I recommend this site: http://pixma.damnmachine.com
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Thanks for the corrections.

1.I'd miss-inferred from the continued use of the same CLI8 ink cartridges (and the lack of knowledge of the Staples' staff 6 months ago) that the same print heads were used. Looks like that increase should make a visible enhancement.

2. Hadn't heard there were -any- re-fill kits for these, let alone ones with quality/stable colors. Sounds like a great way to save.
Q- Hobbicolors & Inktec only list BCI6 inks, not CLI8:
are you suggesting these are interchangeable?
('Thought I'd long-ago read that Canon had made these cartridges un-reusable through some micro-chip.)

EDIT: see 13Gigatons, below. Note that hobbicolors.com makes no reference to CLI8 products, but their Ebay site [ref. below] does; and inktec.com makes no claims for CLI8 compatibility, yet a vendor offers their InkTec ink for all the 4x00 series but uses BCI (pre-chipping) codes, not CLI ones, so... guess you'd have to have Faith or Experience to know what to trust there.

3. I've read that dye-sublimation are regarded as best (for their color gamut) [w/in consumer products], and then those solid-stick inks, but no matter. Yeah, lasers aren't in the running.

Regardless, the precursor 4200 is great and 'think I'll pick up one of these 4300's as a back-up for my trusty -old- HP 973lj (since I gifted-away the 4200 I'd bought for that purpose in a sale similar to this last autumn!).
 
One of the best (and longest lasting color printers) I've ever owned is the Canon iP4000.

It has 4 separate carts, they are clear to see exactly how much ink is left, and, unlike the 4200 and 4300's the 4000 cart are *not* chipped.

Around here they run about $11 each for OEM. Carts for the 4200 run $13 and the 4300 appears to use the same chipped cart as the 4200.

I've ran inkjets pretty much since they came out and have yet to find a reliable aftermarket ink supplier. I'm sure they are out there, but now I'm gun shy.
 
Originally posted by: Tomer
One of the best (and longest lasting color printers) I've ever owned is the Canon iP4000.

It has 4 separate carts, they are clear to see exactly how much ink is left, and, unlike the 4200 and 4300's the 4000 cart are *not* chipped.

Around here they run about $11 each for OEM. Carts for the 4200 run $13 and the 4300 appears to use the same chipped cart as the 4200.

I've ran inkjets pretty much since they came out and have yet to find a reliable aftermarket ink supplier. I'm sure they are out there, but now I'm gun shy.
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Have you ever used Hobbicolors or Inktec? Which ink company would you recommend for my Canon MP500?
 
Originally posted by: Tomer
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It has 4 separate carts...
:
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Like the other iP4x00 printers, the 4000 has 5 carts (2 black+3 color) [or I can't read the Canon doc's I looked at!]. 🙂 Lucky you: as writ, those iP4000 carts are incompatible with the later 4x00's and lack the anti-reuse chips so you can refill them. Just being twitty about the number... no argument with the substance of your post.

BTW: on the 4200 the "low on ink" warnings are quite early -- YMMV depending on the nature of your printing, such as doing high ink-density pages of pictures -- so you can usually print scores of pages after those warnings begin. Whether the early warning's useful or irritating depends on whether you need advance notice to get to a store or you have a spare in the drawer.
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Edit: In the WTH category, I just stumbled onto a company offering a ten-pack [2x(2 black + 3 color) of chip-less carts for the 4200 for $20 (=$40-$20 sale code). Apparently that company name is a CENSORED item in AT (to my shock/ignorance/disgrace), so one cannot post of them and I guess one should NOT deal with these folks. But... the idea of there being un-chipped carts that would work with the 4200 (and by extrapolation the 4300) is intriguing. Or, perhaps it's a scam and that's why they're CENSORED!
 
Originally posted by: Basilisk
Originally posted by: 13Gigatons

1. The IP4300 is equal to the IP5200 in photo quality. It has twice the nozzles that the 4200 came with.

2. Canon inks are pretty expensive but using high quality bulk ink such as Hobbicolors or Inktec will save you bundles and the carts are a breeze to refill.

3. All the best photoprinters are inkjet. They have a wider color gamut then Laser. If want better printer I would recommend the Canon IP6700, Pro9000 or Pro9500 but they are expensive.

4. For cd printing instructions I recommend this site: http://pixma.damnmachine.com
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Thanks for the corrections.

1.I'd miss-inferred from the continued use of the same CLI8 ink cartridges (and the lack of knowledge of the Staples' staff 6 months ago) that the same print heads were used. Looks like that increase should make a visible enhancement.

2. Hadn't heard there were -any- re-fill kits for these, let alone ones with quality/stable colors. Sounds like a great way to save.
Q- Hobbicolors & Inktec only list BCI6 inks, not CLI8:
are you suggesting these are interchangeable?
('Thought I'd long-ago read that Canon had made these cartridges un-reusable through some micro-chip.)

3. I've read that dye-sublimation are regarded as best (for their color gamut) [w/in consumer products], and then those solid-stick inks, but no matter. Yeah, lasers aren't in the running.

Regardless, the precursor 4200 is great and 'think I'll pick up one of these 4300's as a back-up for my trusty -old- HP 973lj (since I gifted-away the 4200 I'd bought for that purpose in a sale similar to this last autumn!).
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Hobbicolors has CLI8 ink for quite awhile now called UW8: http://search.ebay.com/hobbicolors
The printers will disable the ink measuring when you use refill ink and give you a scary warning about warranty. It works fine though you just need to check the carts once in awhile.

Haven't used inktec but they tested well for fade resistance among refill ink: http://forums.dpreview.com/for...=1003&message=12198835

To buy inktec for cli-8: http://www.inkiesonline.com/pc...tegory=9&idproduct=367


 
Originally posted by: Basilisk
Originally posted by: Tomer
:
It has 4 separate carts...
:
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Like the other iP4x00 printers, the 4000 has 5 carts (2 black+3 color) [or I can't read the Canon doc's I looked at!]. 🙂 Lucky you: as writ, those iP4000 carts are incompatible with the later 4x00's and lack the anti-reuse chips so you can refill them. Just being twitty about the number... no argument with the substance of your post.

BTW: on the 4200 the "low on ink" warnings are quite early -- YMMV depending on the nature of your printing, such as doing high ink-density pages of pictures -- so you can usually print scores of pages after those warnings begin. Whether the early warning's useful or irritating depends on whether you need advance notice to get to a store or you have a spare in the drawer.
____________________________________

Edit: In the WTH category, I just stumbled onto a company offering a ten-pack [2x(2 black + 3 color) of chip-less carts for the 4200 for $20 (=$40-$20 sale code). Apparently that company name is a CENSORED item in AT (to my shock/ignorance/disgrace), so one cannot post of them and I guess one should NOT deal with these folks. But... the idea of there being un-chipped carts that would work with the 4200 (and by extrapolation the 4300) is intriguing. Or, perhaps it's a scam and that's why they're CENSORED!
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You remove the circuit from the canon cart and put it on the third party cart.
 
How would megatoners or inksell compare to those mentioned here?

So what's the deal with the chip? What's Canon's purpose in it if you can still buy aftermarket carts w/ the chip? Or was it to prevent refilling?

And speaking of refilling, the last time I tried that, way back on an Epson 740, it was a disaster. We didn't overfill but it was still a big mess, took forever, leaked for awhile, and the prints were terrible. Is it better now?

 
Originally posted by: Slickone
How would megatoners or inksell compare to those mentioned here?

So what's the deal with the chip? What's Canon's purpose in it if you can still buy aftermarket carts w/ the chip? Or was it to prevent refilling?

And speaking of refilling, the last time I tried that, way back on an Epson 740, it was a disaster. We didn't overfill but it was still a big mess, took forever, leaked for awhile, and the prints were terrible. Is it better now?
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I've never used megatoners or inksell myself but from what other refillers tell me they fade pretty fast compared with the better bulk ink.

The circuit was to prevent the use of third party carts but they still allowed refilling. The reason for this was because people who bought Canon Printers ninety percent would just buy Canon carts, nine percent would buy generic carts and one percent would refill. They wanted to stop the 9 percenters from eating into their profit. They seen refillers as more determined and didn't want to alienate them.

This has all changed though with generic carts that simply use the canon circuit and the newer Canon recycled carts that have been reset.





 
Excellent deal if you can afford to wait on the rebate. A printer with a full set of OEM tanks for less than a set of OEM tanks alone... I guess they must have a replacement for the 4300 coming towards the end of Summer...

.bh.
 
I use the Swiftink.com tanks for the 4300 - but you do have to transplant the chip from the OEM tank. So far, so good.

.bh.
 
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