Cannot install XP SP3 -- could I just order it on a CD?

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For some reason I can't seem to update my Windows XP SP2 to SP3 using the Automatic Update program. It goes to install it and then halfway through a box comes up saying "Access Denied".

Would I have better luck if I ordered an SP3 CD from Microsoft? Has anyone else had this problem?
 

bruceb

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Yes, you can order it on a cd .. you can also download the ISO that IT depts will use and burn it to a cd. On some computers, you may be better off installing SP3 while in SAFE Mode and yes, in some cases your antivirus may need to be turned off. If that is the case, disconnect from the internet and use the cd to install SP3

SP3 ISO file

http://www.microsoft.com/DownL...59D164E&displaylang=en

SP3 IT file that most IT depts will download

http://www.microsoft.com/DownL...5D4F3D4&displaylang=en

Note MS says home users should not download, but that is mainly on account of the large file size.

You can order the cd from here .... small fee for shipping

<a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="https://om2.one.microsoft.com/opa/Validation.aspx?StoreID=ce6e3afc-6b25-4f99-8913-3e3453ad966d&LocaleCode=en-us&JavaScriptOn=yes">https://om2.one.microsoft.c......s&JavaScriptOn=yes</a>
 

QuixoticOne

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There is another option that is often even better, at least if you plan to do a clean reinstall at least once in the future. Slipstream SP3 into XP to make a new XP + SP3 installable CD with SP3 totally integrated. Then there shouldn't be any problems "applying" SP3 to the XP installation because it will be there from the start sort of fully integrated.

If you're just looking to install it on an existing system, though, try the ISO image of SP3, that's convenient to have around on CD.
 

redbeard1

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You can download the IT version of the SP3 file that bruceb provided, and then boot into safe mode to install it to get around the possible AVG issue. At one point during the SP3 beta, it was advised to install it in safe mode.

The admin download is a "frozen" file. It is the same as when MS kicked it out. When you use the Windows Update site, it looks at your system and can adjust for things that have been reported as issues, for which MS has created a hotfix that is not in the original SP file.

Do you have a AMD based system? Are you running as an administrator or are you using a limited user account? Have you checked the event log for an explanation of the error?

Look for the log file setupapi.log and see if it shows where in the SP process the install stops. There is also a log named Windowsupdate.log that may have info as well. I know I have had a couple of systems that had issues with permissions in the registry that SP2 could not finish because of. One was something about audio and the other was something about DVD. The setupapi.log showed were the spots were.
 

bruceb

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redbeard .. you could take that mnemonic one step further:

A,B,C,D,E ... Account Data, Bookmarks, Contacts, Documents, Email
This way, you might be able to retain some account specific settings
 
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I downloaded the SP3 ISO file, burned it to a CD, turned off AVG stuff, and tried again and had the same problem -- Access Denied error. I did find both the Windowsupdate.log and the setupapi.log but am not sure I can interpret it. I didn't do it in Safe Mode.
 

Nafets

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If you already have a properly working SP2 installation with all of the updates downloaded and installed from Windows Update, there is really no reason to waste your time with SP3.

In the future, as others suggested, if you do a clean re-install of XP it would be good to utilize a Slipstreamed SP3 version...
 

Chiefcrowe

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SP3 did add a few things that weren't in the individual patches since SP2, I believe so i think it's a good idea to install it.
 

tcsenter

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Originally posted by: WhipperSnapper
I downloaded the SP3 ISO file, burned it to a CD, turned off AVG stuff, and tried again and had the same problem -- Access Denied error. I did find both the Windowsupdate.log and the setupapi.log but am not sure I can interpret it. I didn't do it in Safe Mode.
Clear all Event Viewer logs. Open command prompt (under admin account), enter:

chkdsk volume: /r

Where volume: is your system drive letter (e.g. usually C). Select "Y" to schedule chkdsk after restart, exit command prompt, then restart. It will take at least 45 minutes, possibly a little longer, unless chkdsk encounters some problem and cannot proceed.

When chkdsk is finished and Windows loads again, check the Event Viewer logs for "Winlogon" and view the chkdsk summary report. If it reports chkdsk could not complete or encountered problems it could not fix, then you should download the diagnostic utility from the hard drive manufacturer and run the long/extensive diagnostic test (which will take a lot longer than chkdsk). If chkdsk reports that everything is kosher or all problems were fixed, proceed.

Run Disk Cleanup, click on "More Options" tab (advanced) and select 'clean up' of all older System Restore points. It might take several seconds for Disk Cleanup to respond, then go back to the main Clean Up tab. Select everything except compress old files, then click OK.

Delete Temporary Internet Files and History (you shouldn't need to delete cookies or saved login and passwords).

Delete anything you find in C:\Documents and Settings\{User Name}\Local Settings\Temp

You should have folder options set to show hidden and protected system files. Go to Control Panel > Folder Options > View Tab > Advanced Settings:

- Check the box for Display the contents of system folders
- Check the box for Show hidden files and folders
- Clear the box for Hide protected operating system files

There is often a few hundred MB worth of junk located in the user profile temp folder, but I've seen several cases with well over 1GB. If you can't delete some files in this folder because they are currently in use, restart in Safe Mode then try again.

Check that free disk space on the system volume/partition is not less than 15%.

Uninstall/remove any devices or peripherals that aren't really required when installing updates, such as wireless adapters, printers, external hard drives, or USB hubs. Uninstalling the software and drivers for these devices in addition to removing the device would be a plus, since some device drivers and related software are on the compatibility blacklist that will prevent SP3 from installing.

Check if newer drivers are available for the graphics, audio, and LAN, by going to the device chip vendor website. e.g. If you have NVIDIA graphics, check NVIDIA's website. If you have Realtek audio, check Realtek's website. Don't get drivers from the motherboard manufacturer or PC company, because they typically stop posting driver updates a few to several months after the model is launched.

Download the latest updates for any browser toolbars you may have installed. e.g. Yahoo, Google, AOL, et. al. Get rid of any specialty toolbars such as Coupon Finders, Shopper Sites, Weather Bug, and that sorta junk.

Unload or close unnecessary third-party apps running in the System Tray next to the clock and volume icons. e.g. AIM, MSN, Google, ICQ, HP Image Zone or Photosmart Essentials, Free Games, Weather Bug, blah blah blah

Disable real-time scanning or protection features of all security apps, except Windows Firewall (if you are confident the system is free of security risks).
 

tcsenter

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OK, but most of it is actually just best practices for PC maintainence that should periodically be done, anyway. The only real non-routine stuff is removing non-essential devices or peripherals, unloading third-party apps running in the background, and disabling real-time protection features of security software.

The disk check might reveal an underlying problem that potentially could have implications beyond merely preventing SP3 from installing. SP3 could be failing because of some stupid reason that is only affecting SP3 installation, or it could be because there is a real underlying problem.