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Canadians see USA as a bully........

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BULLY

Most see U.S. as a 'bully,' survey finds
Canadians conflicted about how much support to show Americans

Norma Greenaway
The Ottawa Citizen

Saturday, December 28, 2002

Canadians have their backs up over American foreign policy, according to a new survey that shows
the vast majority believe the United States is acting like a bully with the rest of the world.

The survey suggests a chill has developed in Canada-U.S. relations compared to the empathy
and support that flowed following the terrorist attacks on Sept. 11, 2001, and for the launch of the U.S.-led "war on terrorism."

Although almost half of those surveyed agree the United States, as the world's sole superpower, has a responsibility to intervene
the affairs of other countries to protect global security, almost seven in 10 believe the U.S. is "starting to act like a bully with the rest of the world."

The survey, based on telephone interviews with 1,400 adult Canadians, was conducted in the first half of November
for Maclean's magazine, Global TV and the Citizen by the Strategic Counsel, a Toronto-based polling firm.

It makes clear Canadians are conflicted about how supportive and friendly they want to be with Americans,
an ambivalence some analysts say Prime Minister Jean Chrétien reflects in his reserved approach to the Bush administration.

Indeed, the survey lands as the Canadian government grapples with big issues: how to repair and enhance relations with the
security-obsessed United States, the country's largest trading partner; and if and how to support Washington in a probable U.S.-led war on Iraq.

The survey indicates Canadians don't want the Chrétien government bending over backwards to support the U.S. in the pending war.

The findings say Canadians are ambivalent, for example, about the threat posed by Iraq and are strongly opposed
to backing a U.S.-led war on Saddam Hussein with Canadian fighting units.

At the same time, a majority -- 53 per cent -- said Canada should provide some non-combat support, such as food and transportation,
regardless of whether the UN Security Council approves an attack.

Michael Sullivan, an analyst with the Strategic Counsel, says the findings lay bare Canadians' conflicted feelings about the United States.

"We obviously recognize we're tied to the U.S. in ways that we might not have been a decade ago because of NAFTA," he said.

But Canadians also are saying that despite shared security issues, a military partnership and a long friendship,
their priorities are not necessarily the U.S. interests and the two countries may have different outlooks on things.

"As Canadians, we take pride in our role as peacemaking and peacekeeping," Mr. Sullivan said.

"I think that that is part of our personality. We take pride in medicare, we take pride in our peacekeeping role.
And when we look at the U.S., we don't see those kind of values necessarily reflected."

Mr. Sullivan said the strong 67-per-cent Canadian agreement with the statement the
U.S. government is "starting to act like a bully" with the rest of the world is telling.

It's not that Canadians don't think the U.S. has a responsibility in world affairs as the lone superpower,
it's just they are upset over how the U.S. is exercising that responsibility, he said.

The survey shows more Canadians had put a distance between themselves and their U.S. counterparts by the end of this year, compared to a year earlier.

Last year, almost half of respondents -- 49 per cent -- said Canadians and Americas were "essentially" or "mainly" the same.
That percentage slid to 41 per cent when the same question was asked this year.

Similarly, in the months after Sept 11, 2001, 33 per cent of Canadians said
Americans are "like family" or "best friends." A year later, the proportion dropped to 22 per cent.

The results of the survey are considered accurate within 3.1 percentage points 19 times in 20.

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Bah - who cares what people in Canuckzicstan think.
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Interesting. I've always been under the assumption that most Canadians see the USA as a big shield, a guardian, a watchdog, a free securitiy guard, etc. Canada would be part of who knows what Communist collective if it weren't for the USA.

Now go crack me a Molson, Canadian-Wench...make sure it's cold, or you'll get a spanking. 😉
 
Originally posted by: Ladies Man
i wonder what would happen if the us decided that we weren't going to protect canada from anything........

Nothin'

Who'd attack us?

Who has the US ever stopped from invading Canada?

Of Canada and the US, who was the first to fight in WWI?

Of Canada and the US, who was the first to become involved in WWII?

Of Canada and the US, who declared war on Japan first?
 
Originally posted by: silverpig
Originally posted by: Ladies Man
i wonder what would happen if the us decided that we weren't going to protect canada from anything........

Nothin'

Who'd attack us?

Who has the US ever stopped from invading Canada?

Of Canada and the US, who was the first to fight in WWI?

Of Canada and the US, who was the first to become involved in WWII?

Of Canada and the US, who declared war on Japan first?

Canada = America Jr. Won't take more than a month to conquer it if US ever gone crazy enough to do it.
 
Originally posted by: rufruf44
Originally posted by: silverpig
Originally posted by: Ladies Man
i wonder what would happen if the us decided that we weren't going to protect canada from anything........

Nothin'

Who'd attack us?

Who has the US ever stopped from invading Canada?

Of Canada and the US, who was the first to fight in WWI?

Of Canada and the US, who was the first to become involved in WWII?

Of Canada and the US, who declared war on Japan first?

Canada = America Jr. Won't take more than a month to conquer it if US ever gone crazy enough to do it.

utter suicide. 😀

 
Originally posted by: silverpig
Originally posted by: Ladies Man
i wonder what would happen if the us decided that we weren't going to protect canada from anything........

Nothin'

Who'd attack us?

Who has the US ever stopped from invading Canada?

Of Canada and the US, who was the first to fight in WWI?

Of Canada and the US, who was the first to become involved in WWII?

Of Canada and the US, who declared war on Japan first?

the US invaded canada in 1812. or at least attempted to. and since you're part of the commonwealth when the mother country (england) went to war yall followed. or did you forget that the head of state of canada is queen elizabeth?
 
Originally posted by: rufruf44
Originally posted by: silverpig
Originally posted by: Ladies Man
i wonder what would happen if the us decided that we weren't going to protect canada from anything........

Nothin'

Who'd attack us?

Who has the US ever stopped from invading Canada?

Of Canada and the US, who was the first to fight in WWI?

Of Canada and the US, who was the first to become involved in WWII?

Of Canada and the US, who declared war on Japan first?

Canada = America Jr. Won't take more than a month to conquer it if US ever gone crazy enough to do it.

And the chances of that happening are about the same as the chances of me singlehandedly taking over the entire US... Ain't never gonna happen.
 
Originally posted by: ElFenix
Originally posted by: silverpig
Originally posted by: Ladies Man
i wonder what would happen if the us decided that we weren't going to protect canada from anything........

Nothin'

Who'd attack us?

Who has the US ever stopped from invading Canada?

Of Canada and the US, who was the first to fight in WWI?

Of Canada and the US, who was the first to become involved in WWII?

Of Canada and the US, who declared war on Japan first?

the US invaded canada in 1812. or at least attempted to. and since you're part of the commonwealth when the mother country (england) went to war yall followed. or did you forget that the head of state of canada is queen elizabeth?

pwned 😀
 
Originally posted by: dparker
USA doesn't give a sh!t..........

Why would you? you are in the same position germany was in the early 40's...

you have this great nation and if someone as much as irritates you, your message is to nuke them...

Thank god the government is a bit (only a bit) more mature than these ATOT members...
 
Originally posted by: ElFenix
Originally posted by: silverpig
Originally posted by: Ladies Man
i wonder what would happen if the us decided that we weren't going to protect canada from anything........

Nothin'

Who'd attack us?

Who has the US ever stopped from invading Canada?

Of Canada and the US, who was the first to fight in WWI?

Of Canada and the US, who was the first to become involved in WWII?

Of Canada and the US, who declared war on Japan first?

the US invaded canada in 1812. or at least attempted to. and since you're part of the commonwealth when the mother country (england) went to war yall followed. or did you forget that the head of state of canada is queen elizabeth?

We went after Japan unilaterally. With WWII, we purposely waited a few days after Britain had declared war on Germany to do so ourselves in a political gesture to assert our independence.

I'm pretty sure we were the first western country to declar war on Japan though.
 
Originally posted by: LongCoolMother
Originally posted by: ElFenix
Originally posted by: silverpig
Originally posted by: Ladies Man
i wonder what would happen if the us decided that we weren't going to protect canada from anything........

Nothin'

Who'd attack us?

Who has the US ever stopped from invading Canada?

Of Canada and the US, who was the first to fight in WWI?

Of Canada and the US, who was the first to become involved in WWII?

Of Canada and the US, who declared war on Japan first?

the US invaded canada in 1812. or at least attempted to. and since you're part of the commonwealth when the mother country (england) went to war yall followed. or did you forget that the head of state of canada is queen elizabeth?

pwned 😀

Hardly. Even if the US stopped defending us, they'd never attack us.
 
Originally posted by: SnapIT
Originally posted by: dparker
USA doesn't give a sh!t..........

Why would you? you are in the same position germany was in the early 40's...

you have this great nation and if someone as much as irritates you, your message is to nuke them...

Thank god the government is a bit (only a bit) more mature than these ATOT members...

Killing 3000+ American civilians was slightly more than an irritation.
 
"At the same time, a majority -- 53 per cent -- said Canada should provide some non-combat support, such as maple syrup and sled dogs, "


 
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