Canadians consider themselves anti-American

[RabidMongoose]

Originally posted by: Stunt
You have failed to show any evidence of a major impact on Canadians: currency, a minor amount of funds for the GG and a powerless head of state play no role at all in canadians lives, let alone explains the anti-american sentiment.

Nobody ever said that the Queen defintiely provides significant anti-American sentiment. However, if you feel that the Queen has no impact on Canada, then I suggest that you actually talk to your fellow French Canadians who have protested against the monarchy. There are also citizenship, government, and military issues as well. If you feel that the discrimination in a government position is not a significant issue, then I just feel sorry for you.

Do you support the discrimination of say Arnold from becoming President...a postion with actual power...unlike the useless, irrelevant queen?

Actually I would be OK now if Arnold could become president. Perhaps this ties into what Skoorb was saying - Americans are more open to change than Canadians. I have no idea if that is true or not. Or perhaps, as I have always said, Canadians feel some sort of great insult when an American comments on Canada.

However, let's not forget that not allowing someone to be president based on place of birth is not nearly the same as not allowing someone to become Head of State based on religion and other inherent factors. In addition, this is far more accepted in the world.

The head of state is set as one person, it discriminates against all people equally. It's not a rights issue but a restriction, just like all other laws and regulations.

No, you cannot become Head of State of Canada if you are a Muslim, Hindu, Catholic, and so on. Are you trying to tell me that it's OK to discriminate against Muslims, Hindus, Catholics, Buddhists, and so on?

Just answer the following questions. If there is any part of my post that you address, just reply to the following questions at the least:

Do you support government sanctioned discrimination? How do you feel that your Muslim, Catholic, Hindu, etc. countrymen can NEVER be Canada's Head of State at this time?

What would you say if the US had a position, say 'Official White House Lady', where all she does is something far less significant than being the Head of State of Canada. Would you be fine if there was a law that was actively practiced that said she could not be a black woman?

Answer them truthfully and see if you can really support such laws that you are supporting.

 

[Stunt]

Anita, I don't think i am dragging any country through the mud.
It is a debate of public opinion and ways of life.
WELCOME TO P&N!!! 😛

To say i cannot post negative or questionable topics of my country and post about american issues would be hypocritical. Every forum member by your standards drags their country through the mud.

The amount of flag waving here amazes me. I like to think i've discovered this and base my comments on relevant information rather than nationalism.

When it all comes down to it, i really don't care for the monarch...they have no relevance in my life or anyone else's. Fact is, i'm trying to figure out how this related to the thread topic.

 

[RabidMongoose]

Originally posted by: AnitaPeterson
Funny enough, it's only U.S. people that constantly demean Canada and Canadians, not the rest of the international members. It almost tempts me to say the difference between being a Canadian and an American is that, as a Canadian, you're only hated by your immediate neighbours to the South, while as an American, you disgust the entire world, regardless of your merits.

Better to be significant and envied and along with it hatred than being insignificant.

There are certain people here (RabidMongoose and other corpses) whose pet peeve is come and insult Canada every time the name of the country is mentioned. Oi! you can kiss my Canadian behind, and beg for seconds.

Again, any criticism is met with massive amounts of flag waving.

As I have always said, an American commenting on Canada is seen as worse than murder to many Canadians.

There's also a bunch of mouth-breathers which automatically equates monarchy with absolute evil, as if these kinds of generalisations serve any purpose.

Too bad nobody is making such a ridiculous comparison.

I'm willing to bet none of these "ferocious republicans" (aka straw tigers) ever met a contemporary royal family member, because even their double-digit IQs might be tempted to draw unfavourable comparisons with the boors and imbeciles elected to a certain Oval Office.

I am proud to say that I have never met any inbred royal family members. Have fun when/if Prince Charles becomes your Head of State. At least he'll be white and that should make you happy.

 

[PELarson]

Originally posted by: RabidMongoose

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: PELarson

Originally posted by: dmcowen674
😎 another reason to invade and take over Canada.

We sure could use all those resources for free 😀 :thumbsup:

Been there, done that, didn't work!

When have we tried to invade and take over Canada recently???

Not recently. He's referring to the War of 1812 against the British.

That will do. I was actually refering to the earlier invasion.

 

[kogase]

Originally posted by: RabidMongoose

Originally posted by: Stunt
You have failed to show any evidence of a major impact on Canadians: currency, a minor amount of funds for the GG and a powerless head of state play no role at all in canadians lives, let alone explains the anti-american sentiment.

Nobody ever said that the Queen defintiely provides significant anti-American sentiment. However, if you feel that the Queen has no impact on Canada, then I suggest that you actually talk to your fellow French Canadians who have protested against the monarchy. There are also citizenship, government, and military issues as well. If you feel that the discrimination in a government position is not a significant issue, then I just feel sorry for you.

Do you support the discrimination of say Arnold from becoming President...a postion with actual power...unlike the useless, irrelevant queen?

Actually I would be OK now if Arnold could become president. Perhaps this ties into what Skoorb was saying - Americans are more open to change than Canadians. I have no idea if that is true or not. Or perhaps, as I have always said, Canadians feel some sort of great insult when an American comments on Canada.

However, let's not forget that not allowing someone to be president based on place of birth is not nearly the same as not allowing someone to become Head of State based on religion and other inherent factors. In addition, this is far more accepted in the world.

The head of state is set as one person, it discriminates against all people equally. It's not a rights issue but a restriction, just like all other laws and regulations.

No, you cannot become Head of State of Canada if you are a Muslim, Hindu, Catholic, and so on. Are you trying to tell me that it's OK to discriminate against Muslims, Hindus, Catholics, Buddhists, and so on?

Just answer the following questions. If there is any part of my post that you address, just reply to the following questions at the least:

Do you support government sanctioned discrimination? How do you feel that your Muslim, Catholic, Hindu, etc. countrymen can NEVER be Canada's Head of State at this time?

What would you say if the US had a position, say 'Official White House Lady', where all she does is something far less significant than being the Head of State of Canada. Would you be fine if there was a law that was actively practiced that said she could not be a black woman?

Answer them truthfully and see if you can really support such laws that you are supporting.

There is no policy set in place that bars blacks or Muslims from becoming a king. If Prince Charles converts to Islam, he can still become king. If God flips his magic wand and Charles becomes black, he can still become king. The only requirement is that he be Charles, the first son of the queen. Which he is.

This is pretty stupid. The "head of state" role that the monarchy plays is all but completely symbolic. Using it is a symbol of hatred and prejudice in Canada is ridiculous. People simply appreciate the tradition of the royal family as it relates to their culture.

 

[CanOWorms]

Originally posted by: kogase

There is no policy set in place that bars blacks or Muslims from becoming a king. If Prince Charles converts to Islam, he can still become king. If God flips his magic wand and Charles becomes black, he can still become king. The only requirement is that he be Charles, the first son of the queen. Which he is.

This is pretty stupid. The "head of state" role that the monarchy plays is all but completely symbolic. Using it is a symbol of hatred and prejudice in Canada is ridiculous. People simply appreciate the tradition of the royal family as it relates to their culture.

Completely incorrect - only Protestant descendants are allowed. If they even marry a Catholic, they are disqualified. The monarch is even the head of the church. Anyone that thinks that the Queen is nothing more than just a symbol is a raving lunatic or completely uninformed, even more so in regards to the UK. This barbarism shouldn't have been allowed to exist into the 21st century.

 

[Tsunami982]

they are tired of being in our shadow so they need to do something to differentiate themselves from america. if they agreed with everything we did, they would be seen as our puppet (which they kinda are). canada would be screwed if we placed an embargo on them.

 

[yllus]

Canada pretty much epitomizes complacency in all its facets.

Eh...the Liberals aren't very good governors today, but it's too much work/dangerous to try a new party.
Eh...our economy isn't all that, but better to stick to being a second-rate services provider than put in risky investments.
Eh...we could field a better, more effective military, but why bother when the Yankees have our backs and it'd cost so much money.
Eh...life is okay, better leave it as-is rather than mess up and potentially make things worse.

Great place to retire. But not the place I plan to spend my formative career years.

 

[Steeplerot]

why would the canadians need a better military?
the real question is why do we piss away all our money on our bloated military in these times?
The cold-war is over no matter how much the neocons want to hold on to their hate and cash-cow.

 

[CanOWorms]

Originally posted by: Steeplerot
why would the canadians need a better military?
the real question is why do we piss away all our money on ours?

Scientific advancement, anti-terrorism, disaster relief, humanitarian relief, etc.

 

[Steeplerot]

ah, so running the country into the ground with a post-cold war inflated military budget will advance what?
maybe advance this country into the bankrupt hole the USSR found itself in thats about it.

 

[CanOWorms]

Originally posted by: Steeplerot
ah, so running the country into the ground with a inflated budget will advance what?
maybe advance this country into the hole the USSR found itself in.

obviously you have to find a balance

 

[Steeplerot]

have you seen the lopsided budget we have to countries far bigger then ours?
it is foolishness having a military so huge, and for all the cash we spend they can't even win one of our little imperialist wars in how long?
oh yeah since ww2 and ww1....the johnny come latleys

 

[CanOWorms]

Originally posted by: Steeplerot
have you seen the lopsided budget we have to countries far bigger then ours?
it is foolishness having a military so huge, and for all the cash we spend they can't even win one of our little imperialist wars in how long?
oh yeah since ww2 and ww1....the johnny come latleys

The countries that are far bigger than us are developing nations. Which ones are your refering to? India or China? GDP-wise the US is the largest, so I'm assuming that you're not refering to that.

Also, what does what the US is doing have to do with Canada's military?

Personally, I believe that the US must maintain a strong military to keep the pro-genocide forces in Europe in check. The rise of the pro-genocide ultra far-right has to be in check or another period of hell shall be unleashed upon the world.

 

[Steeplerot]

The people of europe know better after what they have been through.
The far right here are far more organized, much bigger in number, and have legitamcy from the population here and have the propaganda base all set up through radio and cable tv spewing hate at the same "enemies".
The neo-nazis in europe would fade back into obscurity if they weren't egged on by the resurgence of the far right here.

 

[CanOWorms]

Originally posted by: Steeplerot
The people of europe know better after what they have been through.
The far right here are far more organized, much bigger in number, and have legitamcy from the population here.
The neo-nazis in europe would fade back into obscurity if they weren't egged on by the resurgence of the far right here.

Sadly, they have not learned from history. They have not had as much of a societal change. They still hate the undesirables, attempt to re-colonize the world, etc.

The Nazis in Europe are gaining in power as is seen in the popularity of the supremacist ultra far-right. Racism gives you votes nowadays in Europe. The ultra far-right has infected mainstream politics, Nazi-like parties have gained in prominence throughout Europe.

The fight against the ultra far-right has even created authoritarian-like regimes where the banishment of political parties and usage of spy agencies to infiltrate rival political parties is common place. It's scary and a lose-lose situation.

I would not be surprised if Hitler Jr. comes out within the next 10 years. It would not be too shocking if many Europeans are collaborating together to experiment in human DNA and other experimental biological sciences to create an airborne virus with 100% efficiency that selectively targets undesirables for sterility. :evil:

 

[Steeplerot]

I don't know where your getting the huge numbers of fascism in europe, sounds like fearmongering and anti-european stuff from us media.
If anything I am afraid that if if another right-wing dictator comes to power WE are the ones with all the traits and a perfect breeding ground for the hate.
The rest of the world is moving toward a socialist/democracy mix and scared as hell of the direction of the US GOP.
It is plain as day the stage is being set up here for a big fall.

 

[CanOWorms]

Originally posted by: Steeplerot
I don't know where your getting the huge numbers of fascism in europe, sounds like fearmongering and anti-european stuff from us media.
If anything I am afraid that if if another right-wing dictator comes to power WE are the ones with all the traits and a perfect breeding ground for the hate.
The rest of the world is moving toward a socialist/democracy mix and scared as hell of the direction of the US GOP.
It is plain as day the stage is being set up here for a big fall.

It's from European and other international media. I find that US media doesn't cover the rise of the genocidal ultra far-right in Europe. They really should start reporting on it though.

The rest of the world is moving towards their own development and rise to power and are scared as hell of the direction of the Europeans who are declining in power yet crave to rape the world yet again. Thankfully, the US has military bases there to keep them and their sterilization virii in check.

It is plain as day the stage is being set up there for a big act.

 

[Steeplerot]

I don't hear this from anywhere but the us media, the rest of the world fears amercia more then anything from polls across the world.
the nazis have a few wingnuts here and there just like they always have, heck, we had a bad skinhead problem awhile back.
no need to shave your head anymore, just put on a suit and go with the modern us mainstream politics. (neoconservative movement)
The media here in america are spewing the same hate the US skinheads had to fight to preach about in the 80's.
The millions of protesters you see in the european media are anti-bush not pro-nazi. I think you have it backwards except for a few isolated incidents.

 

[CanOWorms]

Originally posted by: Steeplerot
I don't hear this from anywhere but the us media, the rest of the world fears amercia more then anything from polls across the world.
the nazis have a few wingnuts here and there just like they always have, heck, we had a bad skinhead problem awhile back.
no need to shave your head anymore, just put on a suit and go with the modern us mainstream politics. (neoconservative movement)
The media here in america are spewing the same hate the US skinheads had to fight to preach about in the 80's.
The millions of protesters you see in the european media are anti-bush not pro-nazi. I think you have it backwards except for a few isolated incidents.

I don't hear this from the US media. The rest of the world fears Eurupe more than anything else in the world because the Europeans have a history of genocide and slavery. The Nazis have many wingnuts in power in Europe. They are like a secret society, infecting everything and consolidating their control over everyone, just like some sinister James Bond villain.

One positive thing that I just thought about is that at least we don't have to worry about an alien invasion. Zordak the Conqueror of the Kth Dimensional Portal is too worried to invade Earth because he fears the upcoming European plot to eradicate the world of undesirables through the sterilization virus will eventually target his Zordian people when earth falls to the evil plot of Europe.

 

[kogase]

Originally posted by: CanOWorms

Originally posted by: kogase

There is no policy set in place that bars blacks or Muslims from becoming a king. If Prince Charles converts to Islam, he can still become king. If God flips his magic wand and Charles becomes black, he can still become king. The only requirement is that he be Charles, the first son of the queen. Which he is.

This is pretty stupid. The "head of state" role that the monarchy plays is all but completely symbolic. Using it is a symbol of hatred and prejudice in Canada is ridiculous. People simply appreciate the tradition of the royal family as it relates to their culture.

Completely incorrect - only Protestant descendants are allowed. If they even marry a Catholic, they are disqualified.

Okay, I'll admit I was wrong. But you have to bring the crow. However, I'm still not convinced that the Queen is much more than a figurehead.

 

[AnitaPeterson]

Originally posted by: RabidMongoose

Originally posted by: AnitaPeterson
Funny enough, it's only U.S. people that constantly demean Canada and Canadians, not the rest of the international members. It almost tempts me to say the difference between being a Canadian and an American is that, as a Canadian, you're only hated by your immediate neighbours to the South, while as an American, you disgust the entire world, regardless of your merits.

Better to be significant and envied and along with it hatred than being insignificant.

There are certain people here (RabidMongoose and other corpses) whose pet peeve is come and insult Canada every time the name of the country is mentioned. Oi! you can kiss my Canadian behind, and beg for seconds.

Again, any criticism is met with massive amounts of flag waving.

As I have always said, an American commenting on Canada is seen as worse than murder to many Canadians.

There's also a bunch of mouth-breathers which automatically equates monarchy with absolute evil, as if these kinds of generalisations serve any purpose.

Too bad nobody is making such a ridiculous comparison.

I'm willing to bet none of these "ferocious republicans" (aka straw tigers) ever met a contemporary royal family member, because even their double-digit IQs might be tempted to draw unfavourable comparisons with the boors and imbeciles elected to a certain Oval Office.

I am proud to say that I have never met any inbred royal family members. Have fun when/if Prince Charles becomes your Head of State. At least he'll be white and that should make you happy.

You are an idiot. No, really... your nick rings true for a pitiful loser trolling internet forums.
"Better to be significant and envied and along with it hatred than being insignificant. "
Canada is anything but insignificant, from any global perspective. And "live and let live" is still a better policy than "Who's not with us is against us".

"any criticism is met with massive amounts of flag waving."
You busted in another thread a few days ago and, completely unprovoked, insulted Canada and Canadians. Where was the criticism? You were just throwing sh!t at us, nothing else. Nobody here is flag-waving at you, I've never seen Canadians as hooked on the maple leaf as you are at your stars and stripes.

"I am proud to say that I have never met any inbred royal family members"
Why yes, be proud of aligning yourself with the likes of Stalin and Pol Pot, since they harboured similar highly advanced ideas. It doesn't matter that your country, a "shining beacon of freedom and democracy" (and just about to throw evolution out of schools) has more inbreeding than all trhe world's current royal families taken together (including the Saudis, your good friends). And my, what ignorance! I mention monarchy, you think of Price Charles... perhaps you have some deeper trouble that prevents you from thinking about Juan Carlos, Sylvia, Beatrix, Juliana, Michael and others whom you'll probably have to google to figure out what the hell I'm talking about. These royals did more for their countries and the world than you'll ever do - but, hey, what do they know, the inbred morons?

I feel I need to wash my hands after dealing with you and your aggressive stupidity. As of this moment I'll do with you what I did once before with someone else. I'll consider you dead, and will completely ignore your posts like the non-person you are. Rest in peace, or whatever...

 

[Riprorin]

I thought that pot smoking makes you mellow?

 

[Steeplerot]

considering that every major civilisation in the history of the world smoked pot to some degree I would have to say your assumption about that is a fallacy.
sorry rip

 

[Riprorin]

Originally posted by: Steeplerot
considering that every major civilisation in the history of the world smoked pot to some degree I would have to say your assumption about that is a fallacy.
sorry rip

You mean my assumption that pot smoking makes you mellow?

It certainly isn't having that effect on AnitaPeterson.