Canadian Girl successfully takes her father to court to overturn grounding

[RapidSnail]

Originally posted by: rivan

Originally posted by: flxnimprtmscl

Originally posted by: Ns1
They should put her up for adoption. Bitch.

+1

^3

That's still 1.

 

[dbk]

Originally posted by: RapidSnail

Originally posted by: rivan

Originally posted by: flxnimprtmscl

Originally posted by: Ns1
They should put her up for adoption. Bitch.

+1

^3

That's still 1.

^1 kabillion

 

[CrackRabbit]

I could of sworn this was an article from The Onion.
Truly sad.

 

[DrPizza]

She may have won the battle, but if her parents have half a brain, she'll lose the war.

 

[Bateluer]

WTF

 

[I Saw OJ]

What kind of a judge would even hear something like that? How asinine.

 

[OVERKILL]

I'd bet money that the mom was involved big time.

As for the judge, He's in the wrong profession.

 

[CanOWorms]

God bless the Queen.

 

[Sphexi]

Originally posted by: nervegrind3r
thats funny, when I was that age, I didnt know what a court was, much less, how to get a lawyer.

Plus, my father would just beat my ass if I didnt follow the rules.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=Nn5jlrxcpkI


"If you call children's aid I will get in a little bit of trouble. But I know that it will take them 24 minutes to get here. And in that time, somebody gonna get hurt real bad."

 

[manlymatt83]

wtf

 

[RaistlinZ]

Originally posted by: Queasy
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OTTAWA (AFP) ? A Canadian court has lifted a 12-year-old girl's grounding, overturning her father's punishment for disobeying his orders to stay off the Internet, his lawyer said Wednesday.

The girl had taken her father to Quebec Superior Court after he refused to allow her to go on a school trip for chatting on websites he tried to block, and then posting "inappropriate" pictures of herself online using a friend's computer.

The father's lawyer Kim Beaudoin said the disciplinary measures were for the girl's "own protection" and is appealing the ruling.

"She's a child," Beaudoin told AFP. "At her age, children test their limits and it's up to their parents to set boundaries."

"I started an appeal of the decision today to reestablish parental authority, and to ensure that this case doesn't set a precedent," she said. Otherwise, said Beaudoin, "parents are going to be walking on egg shells from now on."

"I think most children respect their parents and would never go so far as to take them to court, but it's clear that some would and we have to ask ourselves how far this will go."

According to court documents, the girl's Internet transgression was just the latest in a string of broken house rules. Even so, Justice Suzanne Tessier found her punishment too severe.

Beaudoin noted the girl used a court-appointed lawyer in her parents' 10-year custody dispute to launch her landmark case against dear old dad.

WTF. Parent's aren't allowed to determine the proper rules and punishments for their kids?

10 years! Jesus. Why would anyone fight for ten years to be the guardian of this pices of trash? Really sucks for the dad. The court has basically said the girl can now do whatever she wants without being disciplined, and if he gives custody to his ex-wife he'll be stuck paying child support for the next 6 years.

Stories like this make me glad I'm a bachelor without kids.

 

[destrekor]

WTF is up with the court? Forget the child and the mom likely behind this... the court actually said the father was in the wrong for punishment that wasn't even physical? Wow, I thought the US was going soft. Remind me to stay out of Canada. Looking at someone wrong might get me in trouble if this is any idea as to how fucked up their courts are.

+

 

[Rudee]

If the kid was American, she would of been more likely to shoot her Father then turn the gun on herself. It's the American way.

 

[NoShangriLa]

IMHO, the mom has something to do with it.

The situation call for desperate measure, the guy should move to another country.

 

[alkemyst]

no wonder canada doesn't have a great standing army.

 

[Twofootputt]

Two causes:

Mom giving kid money for lawyer

Lawyer taking the money

Eliminate the cause, eliminate the problem.

 

[Queasy]

Yep, it was the Mom.

A 12-year-old Quebec girl who felt so strongly about her end-of-year school trip that she took her father to court after he forbade her from going is at the centre of a case that challenges the authority of parental discipline.

The extreme measure of taking the case to court, which the girl's lawyer defended as a necessary move to ensure the child was not denied a significant rite of passage, was upheld by the judge in a surprise ruling last week.

"This was something that would never happen again in the child's life," said Lucie Fortin, the lawyer for the girl, who cannot be named.

"And for me that was really important, because it was the end of elementary school, it was the end of a stage in her life."

Ms. Fortin insists that while court was a last resort, the situation called for it: "This was not a question of going to the movies or not, or going online or not -- because obviously, I wouldn't have intervened in that," she said.

Critics of the decision last week by a Quebec Superior Court which ruled in favour of Ms. Fortin's young client suggest that such a ruling opens the way for equally implausible scenarios such as children taking their parents to court for such things as being denied access to television or using the Internet -- and winning.

"As a lawyer and as a parent, I hink it's state interference where the court shouldn't be interfering," said Ottawa lawyer Fred Cogan. "I've got six kids. I certainly wouldn't want a judge watching over everything that I do, and I wouldn't want my kids being able to run to the judge."

The lawyer acting for the father in this case, who also cannot be named, said she is going to appeal the decision.

"The judge said that this was an exception, but the exception was to go on a field trip!" said lawyer Kim Beaudoin.

"What will be too much punishment? Not going to a dance? I want my boyfriend to sleep at my house and my parents aren't letting me? I want to use Internet and my parents aren't letting me? Where will it stop?"

The ruling to allow the field trip went against the wishes of her father ? who has legal custody of her ? but was in keeping with her mother's wishes.

And while the case is raising some eyebrows, a tangled behind-the-scenes custody battle must be taken into account, said Montreal family law lawyer, Miriam Grassby.

"It's a very different situation than a child who might appear to not be be happy with the parent's decision and simply saying ?I'm going to go court and I'm going to get what I want," she said. "And if in fact it's been portrayed that way, it's not putting in its complex context.

While the girl's father has full legal custody, pending a further court decision, the girl has been living with her mother, Ms. Fortin said. But while Ms. Beaudoin says the girl went to live with her mother when her father forbade her from going on the trip, Ms. Fortin contends that she was "kicked out" of her father's house over family tensions.

"In a situation like this where you're in contested custody proceedings, there's often a high level of conflict," said Ms. Grassby. "And one of the reasons that in Quebec that children have lawyers named for them is because the parents and the court recognizes that in high conflict situations it gives the child a safe place to first give their opinion, and get advice."

Others say there are few signs Canadian courts are likely to follow the Quebec court judge's lead.

"Family court judges are sort of loathe and reluctant to enter into the sphere of parental discipline," said Peter Dunning, executive director of the Child Welfare League of Canada.

Cheryl Milne, a lawyer at the Canadian Foundation for Children, Youth and the Law, said the scenario in the Gatineau case may be unique to Quebec because of its civil code. "I can't imagine a similar case being brought in Ontario."

Even in Quebec, the decision is virtually without precedent.

The dispute between father and daughter began when he cut off her Internet access over her misuse. When she continued to find a way to use the Internet, he told his daughter she couldn't go on the three-day school trip.

The girl's mother allowed her to go on the trip, but because the school wouldn't allow the girl to go unless both parents consented, the girl, with the mother's support took legal action against her father.

According to Ms. Beaudoin, the judge ruled that denying the trip was unduly severe punishment.

The father, who is appealing the decision, was "devastated" by the ruling, and is refusing to take his daughter back "because he has no authority over her."

 

[yllus]

Eh, it's Quebec. Were it not for their slutty college girls and great goalies, we'd try to saw them off of the rest of the country and let them drift off to sea.

 

[sdifox]

Originally posted by: yllus
Eh, it's Quebec. Were it not for their slutty college girls and great goalies, we'd try to saw them off of the rest of the country and let them drift off to sea.

But but they want to keep the Canadian passport and currency!

 

[Yreka]

Originally posted by: Rudee
If the kid was American, she would of been more likely to shoot her Father then turn the gun on herself. It's the American way.

In that case, its really a shame you aren't American.

 

[bearxor]

Send the bitch to live with her mother. She'll understand one day she's a bitch.

 

[waggy]

Originally posted by: bearxor
Send the bitch to live with her mother. She'll understand one day she's a bitch.

I wouldnt call the little girl a bitch. odds are she is mulipulated by her mother to file the lawsuit.

in time yes the daughter will understand what her mother did and th emother will have to pay for it.

 

[Ns1]

The father, who is appealing the decision, was "devastated" by the ruling, and is refusing to take his daughter back "because he has no authority over her."

good. too bad I bet he'll have to pay child support.

 

[LumbergTech]

Originally posted by: Ns1

The father, who is appealing the decision, was "devastated" by the ruling, and is refusing to take his daughter back "because he has no authority over her."

good. too bad I bet he'll have to pay child support.

you are one sick bastard..

no one won in this situation...

 

[waggy]

Originally posted by: LumbergTech

Originally posted by: Ns1

The father, who is appealing the decision, was "devastated" by the ruling, and is refusing to take his daughter back "because he has no authority over her."

good. too bad I bet he'll have to pay child support.

you are one sick bastard..

no one won in this situation...

she won this small battle. eventually she is going to lose the war.

soon the girl is going to figure out what the mother did. then she is going to question the mother and resent her for ruining her relationship with her father.