Canadian Aviation Failures

piasabird

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Japan apparrently bought planes from a Canadian company and they are having serious problems with the planes landing gear not coming down. They purchased these planes knowing that they were cheaper than planes made in the USA. I guess you get what you pay for. The good thing is that no one has died in this crash landing. It is not like American Planes have never had problems, but I would bet on them being a little safer.

http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/asiapcf/03/13/japan.plane.ap/index.html
 

RichardE

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Where did you see that they were cheaper? :confused:


Either way, glad no one has been hurt regarding them, it says Bombardier is helping with the inspection so it will get resolved.
 

AnitaPeterson

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OP just wants to show his true red-white-and-blue patriotism by putting down everyone else... huzzah!
 

daniel49

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hmmm they must have elimanated the red button that causes 2 sets of moose legs to extend in an emergency.;)

Shouldn't be a problem for them unless they are slow and unresponsive to dealing with issues.
 

Stunt

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In other news Nippon Airways was using Boeing spare parts...:D
 

piasabird

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Granted I made some obvious assumptions. For instance in the USA we are in business to make money as people are elsewhere. Often money is spent on the lowest bidder, or what looks like the best deal. I would assume that the Japanese would have tried to make the best deal for them. Sometimes a deal looks good on paper and seems to make good business sense. Japan may have been stuck with some lemons from Canada. Japan might also have some bad maintenance practices. However, they seem to have recently purchased the planes. 2003-present being fairly recent for airframes. Planes less than 10 years old are considered fairly new. Just look at the chinook, and some of our older military aircraft.

Since many facts and figures were not provided it is hard to say otherwise. It is noted that:

"The Transport Ministry ordered emergency inspections for all 36 Bombardier DHC-8s in use in Japan, citing possible defects with the model's landing gear, according to ministry official Yasuo Ishii."

This means someone is conducting some kind of Official Investigation into the matter. It is thought that the landing Gear or the system that makes the landing gear come down and lock may be defective.

Americans have had their own safety problems in the past. However, this may be indicitive of a poorly designed ariplane, or one that was not fully tested. If one or two planes has a problem it might be maintenance. However, I would think from a realistic perspective, that a country that is an Island surrounded by water, would want the planes to be able to be a little more dependable. There is not a lot of open land in Japan to crash land planes.

 

CanOWorms

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Doesn't Bombardier make smaller airplanes? Maybe they don't have strong or decent US competition in that field. I thought their main competitor was the Brazillian aerospace company.
 

Termagant

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Originally posted by: CanOWorms
Doesn't Bombardier make smaller airplanes? Maybe they don't have strong or decent US competition in that field. I thought their main competitor was the Brazillian aerospace company.

Exactly. And Bombardier makes generally excellent aircraft, contrary to what the OP is trying to imply that Canada somehow makes inherently inferior products.
 

Kntx

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Originally posted by: piasabird
Japan apparrently bought planes from a Canadian company and they are having serious problems with the planes landing gear not coming down. They purchased these planes knowing that they were cheaper than planes made in the USA. I guess you get what you pay for. The good thing is that no one has died in this crash landing. It is not like American Planes have never had problems, but I would bet on them being a little safer.

http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/asiapcf/03/13/japan.plane.ap/index.html

Please read last paragraph of article. Wait I'll paste it.

The worst single airplane disaster in history occurred in Japan in 1985, when a Japan Airlines Boeing jumbo jet crashed into a remote mountain, killing 520 of the 524 people aboard.
 

sandorski

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Who made the landing gear?

Bombardier's main competitor is a Brazilian Aircraft manufacturer(don't recall name) and not Boeing, IIRC. It should also be noted that Aircraft need regular maintenance and parts replaced based on Mileage and Hours in use, not by how long they're from point of manufacture.