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Canada's marijuana laws prompt American...threats?

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Originally posted by: ffmcobalt
Originally posted by: Linflas
Originally posted by: ffmcobalt
Originally posted by: virusag11
THis is rediculous. I support legalization, but would prefer decriminalization of marijuana. Just give up on the war on drugs, it doesn't work!
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It doesn't work because stupid wankers don't obey the law :|

nik
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Neither did prohibition for the same reason. Why continue to ignore that obvious example of why the war on drugs can never be won?
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The obvious example? That people blatantly ignore something like "marajuana = highly illegal"? Just what is that "obvious example" that the war on drugs can never be won? Prohibition was repealed because nobody would obey the law so they changed it?

Yeah, so lets repeal speed laws. Lets legalize rape and murder. Cuz, after all, it's a hopeless battle, isn't it.

nik
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You can't compare smoking a joint with raping or murdering someone. Drinking or smoking marijuana harms no one apart from the person taking the drug.
Obviously people shouldn't be allowed to drive or operate machinery when drunk/stoned as they then become a danger to others, but when it is just the individual involved I really don't see what the problem is.

 
Speeding 5mph over the speed limit doesn't hurt anyone more than doing the speed limit. Let's up the speed limit by 5mph since nobody obeys it anyway, right?

nik
 
It doesn't work because stupid wankers don't obey the law
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Why would the wanker wan to obey the law when the law is stupid.
We still have slavery today if people didn't oppose the law.
 
Originally posted by: Amused
It's sad that our government and a majority of the population is so damn duped by the war on drugs and it's propaganda.

I can't think of anything more dangerous than believing your own propaganda.
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Once again you're dead on.
 
Originally posted by: ffmcobalt
Speeding 5mph over the speed limit doesn't hurt anyone more than doing the speed limit. Let's up the speed limit by 5mph since nobody obeys it anyway, right?

nik
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driving at 120mph is dangerous to other people


smoking a blunt in your house isn't
 
Originally posted by: ffmcobalt
Speeding 5mph over the speed limit doesn't hurt anyone more than doing the speed limit. Let's up the speed limit by 5mph since nobody obeys it anyway, right?

nik
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Unless a cop is having a particularly bad day, or has other reasons to pull you over, you will rarely, if ever, be pulled over and ticketed for doing 5 over. Sort of psuedo decriminalization.

And also - people do 5 over as it is. Move it up 5MPH and they will still do 5 more over it. Instead of doing 60 in a 55, they are now doing 65, in what used to be a 55. When does it stop?
 
Originally posted by: vi_edit
Originally posted by: ffmcobalt
Speeding 5mph over the speed limit doesn't hurt anyone more than doing the speed limit. Let's up the speed limit by 5mph since nobody obeys it anyway, right?

nik
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Unless a cop is having a particularly bad day, or has other reasons to pull you over, you will rarely, if ever, be pulled over and ticketed for doing 5 over. Sort of psuedo decriminalization.

And also - people do 5 over as it is. Move it up 5MPH and they will still do 5 more over it. Instead of doing 60 in a 55, they are now doing 65, in what used to be a 55. When does it stop?
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yeah, so lets make it official. Why not 10?

nik
 
Originally posted by: ffmcobalt
Speeding 5mph over the speed limit doesn't hurt anyone more than doing the speed limit. Let's up the speed limit by 5mph since nobody obeys it anyway, right?

nik
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Nik are you a republican or democrat?
 
speeding = dangerous to other people

smoking = not dangerous to other people (let's not include 2nd hand smoke in this argument)
 
Originally posted by: Haircut
Originally posted by: ffmcobalt
Originally posted by: Linflas
Originally posted by: ffmcobalt
Originally posted by: virusag11
THis is rediculous. I support legalization, but would prefer decriminalization of marijuana. Just give up on the war on drugs, it doesn't work!
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It doesn't work because stupid wankers don't obey the law :|

nik
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Neither did prohibition for the same reason. Why continue to ignore that obvious example of why the war on drugs can never be won?
Click to expand...

The obvious example? That people blatantly ignore something like "marajuana = highly illegal"? Just what is that "obvious example" that the war on drugs can never be won? Prohibition was repealed because nobody would obey the law so they changed it?

Yeah, so lets repeal speed laws. Lets legalize rape and murder. Cuz, after all, it's a hopeless battle, isn't it.

nik
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You can't compare smoking a joint with raping or murdering someone. Drinking or smoking marijuana harms no one apart from the person taking the drug.
Obviously people shouldn't be allowed to drive or operate machinery when drunk/stoned as they then become a danger to others, but when it is just the individual involved I really don't see what the problem is.
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Exactly

 
Originally posted by: Shiva112
Originally posted by: ffmcobalt
Speeding 5mph over the speed limit doesn't hurt anyone more than doing the speed limit. Let's up the speed limit by 5mph since nobody obeys it anyway, right?

nik
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Nik are you a republic or democrat?
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Republican. Does it make a difference? Are Republicans against it and Democrats for it? What does my political stand point have to do with my anti-drug standpoint?

nik
 
Originally posted by: NeuroSynapsis
speeding = dangerous to other people

smoking = not dangerous to other people (let's not include 2nd hand smoke in this argument)
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How is it not dangerous? Can you say for sure that nobody who smokes pot will ever become violent or crazy? No, you can't. I don't know any violent pot smokers, but a guy that I work with does. Drugs amplify quirks and other adverse problems that people have.

Smoking isn't necessarily dangerous to people all the time just like speeding down an empty highway or abandoned back country roads in the middle of the night.

There are times and places where both speeding and smoking are dangerous to other people.

nik
 
Originally posted by: ffmcobalt
Originally posted by: NeuroSynapsis
speeding = dangerous to other people

smoking = not dangerous to other people (let's not include 2nd hand smoke in this argument)
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How is it not dangerous? Can you say for sure that nobody who smokes pot will ever become violent or crazy? No, you can't. I don't know any violent pot smokers, but a guy that I work with does. Drugs amplify quirks and other adverse problems that people have.

Smoking isn't necessarily dangerous to people all the time just like speeding down an empty highway or abandoned back country roads in the middle of the night.

There are times and places where both speeding and smoking are dangerous to other people.

nik
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same could be said for beer, but that is still legal.
 
Originally posted by: OmegaNauce
Originally posted by: ffmcobalt
Originally posted by: NeuroSynapsis
speeding = dangerous to other people

smoking = not dangerous to other people (let's not include 2nd hand smoke in this argument)
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How is it not dangerous? Can you say for sure that nobody who smokes pot will ever become violent or crazy? No, you can't. I don't know any violent pot smokers, but a guy that I work with does. Drugs amplify quirks and other adverse problems that people have.

Smoking isn't necessarily dangerous to people all the time just like speeding down an empty highway or abandoned back country roads in the middle of the night.

There are times and places where both speeding and smoking are dangerous to other people.

nik
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same could be said for beer, but that is still legal.
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So make it illegal. In any case, this isn't a pro/con pot thread so I'm not going to keep pushing the issue.

nik
 
Originally posted by: ffmcobalt
Originally posted by: Shiva112
Originally posted by: ffmcobalt
Speeding 5mph over the speed limit doesn't hurt anyone more than doing the speed limit. Let's up the speed limit by 5mph since nobody obeys it anyway, right?

nik
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Nik are you a republic or democrat?
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Republican. Does it make a difference? Are Republicans against it and Democrats for it? What does my political stand point have to do with my anti-drug standpoint?

nik
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very simple. Republicans argue for less government spending and hence lower taxes. But you're saying that the current anti-drug policies should be enforced, hence throwing more money at a problem that we really can't beat with money.
 
Originally posted by: Fausto1
In related news, snack giant Frito-Lay is reportedly thrilled at the prospect of a massive increase in Doritos exports to Canadians afflicted with a marijuana-related disorder known as the "munchies".
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ROTFLMAO!!!

o man thats good


and yes the marijuana thats is grown in the US is a big deal somethin lke a $30 Billion a year busniess. and yes a bunch of it is grown in Kentucky. Like they said in Maxim

The Govt spends a huge ammount of money round 5 Billion or so a year fighting the "WAR ON DRUGS" and they make absoutly no progress every year. I mean if they just wanna flush billions of dollers down the drain. they might as well gve it to me it would be easier and no one would get hurt in the process.

The truth is that Pot is less harmfull to your body then Both Beer and Tobacco. bot which the government supports. and there are known medicial benfits from marijuana. its just stupid that its illigial.

hell even coffee if worse for you. there are over 1000 chemicals in coffee 26 have been tested and 13 of thoes caused cancer in rats

Think about it
 
After hearing this, I'm ashamed to be an american. Anyone that has a problem with someone smoking a joint in their own house needs to have their head examined.
 
I hope our gutless politicians do the right thing and pass this law.

It would be truly awful if they backed down because of US pressure. We need someone like Trudeau dammit, not that senile old fool Chretien.
 
Originally posted by: BD2003
After hearing this, I'm ashamed to be an american. Anyone that has a problem with someone smoking a joint in their own house needs to have their head examined.
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Unfortunately our country is populated with self righteous Fundies like nik who spends their time worrying about what others are doing instead of minding their own business.
 
ffmcobalt

Do you pass laws against bad things, or does passing a law make something bad?

If the feds suddenly decided to ban internet forums because there are pedophiles out there, would you stop using them? Probably, you're a good little drone, doing whatever you're told.

It's my duty as a citizen of a democracy to rebel.
 
Originally posted by: BD2003
After hearing this, I'm ashamed to be an american. Anyone that has a problem with someone smoking a joint in their own house needs to have their head examined.
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Ashamed why? US companies slowing its trade with Canada is to allow for greater inspection time for goods being transferred over the border - not to spite their government.

Whether you agree with the US policies or not, you have to understand that if Canada relaxes its marijuana laws, the US will have to step up its border partrol and inspections, which will inherintly slow business.
 
What a wonderful country why don't we just take over the world? Hey I have an idea we could spray poisonous herbicides all over Canada like we do down in South America. Doesn't matter how many are hurt in the process because we are fighting the greater evil (wait that sounds like something a terrorist would say).

How dare those crazy canucks make their own laws don't they know they are just an American province.
 
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