Canada's air force was slashed in size by 50% yesterday

[Dominato3r]

Quick !!

Let's invade !!

I dare you to.

 

[LumbergTech]

we could spend a lot less on the military while still having an extremely strong homeland defense

 

[CanOWorms]

The things they do to continue funding the Queen Whore

 

[Lemon law]

In some ways the Canadian action is very smart. No one, including the Russians or the USA know what the future military defense offense needs will be as the world transition from a cold war posture to the uncertain future.

Right now the entire world is in transitional phase as old threats are neutralized and new threats are emerging. Why hedge defense bets with reckless spending, in a situation where most bets will not pay off. The only thing sure to change is future military technology, which keeps getting better and better.

If a second class military power like Canada keeps buying first class equipment, two things are certain. (1) The bulk of their expenditures will both be misguided because it is almost certain to not address future needs, and be obsolete in a few years. (2) Canada can afford to lay back, save their money, because they are under no current military threat.

So to a large extent, Canada is better off saving their money, building their economy instead, and then when the world becomes better defined and they choose to resume military spending, they in Canada are in a better position to buy State of the arts technology to better address those future needs.

 

[sandorski]

In some ways the Canadian action is very smart. No one, including the Russians or the USA know what the future military defense offense needs will be as the world transition from a cold war posture to the uncertain future.

Right now the entire world is in transitional phase as old threats are neutralized and new threats are emerging. Why hedge defense bets with reckless spending, in a situation where most bets will not pay off. The only thing sure to change is future military technology, which keeps getting better and better.

If a second class military power like Canada keeps buying first class equipment, two things are certain. (1) The bulk of their expenditures will both be misguided because it is almost certain to not address future needs, and be obsolete in a few years. (2) Canada can afford to lay back, save their money, because they are under no current military threat.

So to a large extent, Canada is better off saving their money, building their economy instead, and then when the world becomes better defined and they choose to resume military spending, they in Canada are in a better position to buy State of the arts technology to better address those future needs.

Agreed. Not just Economic Development, as that's pretty good already, but Population. Tripling of the Population, at the very least, is in Canada's best interest.

There is a fairly strong Domestic push for Canada to be more Militarily ready. Recent Purchases have given the Canadian Military its' own Lift capability, for eg. Which is good right now due to involvement in Afghanistan, but once that commitment ends next year that might end up gathering dust most of the time. Then again, more Emergency Aid type operations will put that equipment to good use once in awhile.

 

[Dominato3r]

The things they do to continue funding the Queen Whore

She isn't my whore, that's for sure :awe:

 

[SKORPI0]

Photo op of a lifetime, and not a moment too soon. D:

 

[Lemon law]

Photo op of a lifetime, and not a moment too soon. D:

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Somewhat wrong, as every military in the world knows. Its one thing to lose your military assets in combat, it is a combat risk, and even if the military asset is lost, there is always the chance that the lost plane may have gotten the bad guy too.

But when the military asset is lost in a non combat accident, its nothing but a dead loss waste. Maybe the biggest recent example was the Russian sub that went down in the Northern Russia, in a similar accident, all those young men lost, our fellow human beings, just lives pissed away for no gain.

 

[EagleKeeper]

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Somewhat wrong, as every military in the world knows. Its one thing to lose your military assets in combat, it is a combat risk, and even if the military asset is lost, there is always the chance that the lost plane may have gotten the bad guy too.

But when the military asset is lost in a non combat accident, its nothing but a dead loss waste. Maybe the biggest recent example was the Russian sub that went down in the Northern Russia, in a similar accident, all those young men lost, our fellow human beings, just lives pissed away for no gain.

Lessons learned; analysis of the block boxes may turn up a problem that can be corrected prior to combat.

 

[Dominato3r]

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Somewhat wrong, as every military in the world knows. Its one thing to lose your military assets in combat, it is a combat risk, and even if the military asset is lost, there is always the chance that the lost plane may have gotten the bad guy too.

But when the military asset is lost in a non combat accident, its nothing but a dead loss waste. Maybe the biggest recent example was the Russian sub that went down in the Northern Russia, in a similar accident, all those young men lost, our fellow human beings, just lives pissed away for no gain.

Unfortunately, there has been a long history of training mishaps in the forces. Mostly from older equipment, but yeah, as you said, It always sucks to lose someone in such a way.

 

[sandorski]

Unfortunately, there has been a long history of training mishaps in the forces. Mostly from older equipment, but yeah, as you said, It always sucks to lose someone in such a way.

For many decades now, more Military Aircraft are lost in Peace Time Training than any other way. True for Canada, the US, probably all EU Nations, possibly for Russia and most other Nations. It sucks, but it happens.

 

[Lemon law]

But other than the precious lives lost, what happens to the plane if its not lost in a war or a training accident?

Short answer, almost the same equivalent thing, sooner or later that bright shiny plane we paid mega millions for will be obsolete, and its going to only be worth the scrap metal value and little more.

 

[Dominato3r]

You know, would anyone actually be willing to buy these planes? or are they just going to for scrap?..

 

[EagleKeeper]

A plane that is retired can still be canabilized for parts or turned over to a guard/reserve unit when not needed for a front line squadron.

Look at the F14 - Iran would love to get their hands on some of those that we have retired.

A crashed plane is usually worthless except for scrap metal.