imported_KirbsAw
Golden Member
Its sad how tucker tries to act funny, i'm glad jon stewart called him dick.
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Its sad how tucker tries to act funny, i'm glad jon stewart called him dick.
dannybin1742
Platinum Member
sickening, whats the deal with canada bashing?
3chordcharlie
Diamond Member
So far that's true, though she's stated publicly that she expects to vote Liberal in most house votes.
I can't see her joinging another party; she's a disgruntled, and somewhat unstable Liberal, but still a Liberal, really.
Besides which, I can't see another party touching her with a 10 foot pole at this point.
I love how she always claims they can crush us like a bug.
Sorry but if we actually felt the US was a threat, and since we have about 35% of the worlds uranium supply and the technology to build the bomb and delivery systems It would pretty much be a Mexican standoff 'cept we don't got any Mexicans' love that line 🙂
We signed the non-nuclear proliferation treaty and WOW we actually stuck to it! US chest beatings when it comes to military might don't impress us. . Trade sanctions on the other hand. . . . . .
Sorry but if we actually felt the US was a threat, and since we have about 35% of the worlds uranium supply and the technology to build the bomb and delivery systems It would pretty much be a Mexican standoff 'cept we don't got any Mexicans' love that line 🙂
We signed the non-nuclear proliferation treaty and WOW we actually stuck to it! US chest beatings when it comes to military might don't impress us. . Trade sanctions on the other hand. . . . . .
We have the supply, but don't have the will nor mean to produce it.
It wouldn't take much for the US to invade Canada...IMHO, it would take about the same amount of time as the invasion of Iraq. However, it would take much more troops than the US ever have to man the ground and suppress the fighting will of the Canadian (well educated, knowledge of technology, knowledge of chemicals & drugs, and we also have the dissatisfy French Canadian).
I do think that Americans underestimate how easy it would be to take over Canada. It would likely be much like the Iraq experience, where beating the military would be easy (possibly even easier) but holding the country would be hard.
The people in the north of the country are hard, many with military experience and many who are armed. I pity the fool who tries to take Red Deer, or North Bay, or even Trois Pistoles. The obstinancy of the Quebeqois would be unmatched. Then again, in a deal with the Separatists, Quebec might be bought. Then they'd just have to worry about the pansy Montrealers over there. Hmm, interesting thought experiment.
My own neighbourhood, I'm unhappy to say, would probably just roll over.
The people in the north of the country are hard, many with military experience and many who are armed. I pity the fool who tries to take Red Deer, or North Bay, or even Trois Pistoles. The obstinancy of the Quebeqois would be unmatched. Then again, in a deal with the Separatists, Quebec might be bought. Then they'd just have to worry about the pansy Montrealers over there. Hmm, interesting thought experiment.
My own neighbourhood, I'm unhappy to say, would probably just roll over.
Stunt
Diamond Member
Separatists may be disgruntled at times but in the end they are proud to be canadian.
I can't see Quebec selling out the rest of Canada for their own soverignty...they cant even vote it in when they have the opportunity to.
Also, the people of quebec are very left wing and i can't see them getting all close to the Dub.
From an invasion point of view, i agree with you. One point overlooked though.
Canada has excellent relations with the rest of the world. Namely EU, Russia, Japan, Aussies, etc.
I could see some of these countries stepping in as they would be fearful of an agressive US (why stop at canada?).
Any idea what extent our allies would help us if US delared war on us?
Who would take which side?
(can we make a nazi germany analogy?)
This is all hypothetical...of course.
You misunderstand the Quebeqois if you think that they are proud to be Canadians. The Separatists are proud to be Quebecers, and the Federalists are proud to be Quebecer-Canadians. Nationalist Quebecers beleive very strongly in the model of the Nation-State, in that a country's borders should closely match the socio-religio-linguistic-cultural attributes of its people. Canada's don't. We have a different model (sometimes called the State-Nation), which uses more practical, and harder to define vision of what makes a good country. If you don't beleive in that vision, then Canada is a pretty piss-poor country.
The north of the country, with the exception of the First Nations people, is where the Hard people live, the ones who would put up the most fight in the case of an invasion. These are also the people that form the core of support for the Separatists. If they could be sold on the vision of a true "Quebec Libre," they might very well go for it. Of course, if a bunch of Texans with rifles set foot on their land in order to make it "Libre," well, I wouldn't want to be in their boots. The feelings they hold towards Gen. Wolfe and the RCMP could be easily transferred to the American cowboy.
If you had removed Montreal from the equation, the referenda would have gone handily to the Separatists.
As for allies, well, Tory Britain keeps enough empire-nostalgia that they would be on our side, and Labour wouldn't want the N. American representative of their values to disappear. The commonwealth, including Australia, would likely follow. In France, the Gaullists would be torn between supporting Quebequios nationalism (in the case of a divide and conquer scenario) and knee-jerk anti-Americanism. The socialists would likely support us, for the same reason that Labour would. Germany would likely oppose the imperialism, out of historical guilt. The Nordic countries would (I would hope) support us. I dunno about southern Europe, or much of Asia. Russia would probably avail themseves of the opportunity to quietly take the Ukraine and Georgia. China would probably do something similar w/r/t Taiwan.
Of course, how much these countries would actually do is questionable, since the US has the nuclear card.
Merely entertaining the idea of the *modern* United States invading Canada is absurd. No really, it is. There are so many treaties which would be broken by such an act, including one with a particular nuclear-enabled English speaking country which is really the only significant non-American Western/European power left in the world... France wouldn't do sh!t for us, though. Don't kid yourselves.
This is, as I stated before, a thought experiment. One that reveals more about our view of the world than reality, I think.
And, as I stated above, I never said anything about what these countries would do, just whether or not they would suppport us or the US in rhetoric. I really don't think that France has the military capacity to do anything in this scenario. What I am saying is that they might even support the US, or at least support an independant Quebec while being somewhat silent on the invasion. Or, they could take a similar diplomatic stance as the one they have regarding Iraq.
If it wern't for the nuclear aspect, I could see the US invading Canada being the event that could catalyze the EU into forming a co-ordinated foreign policy. The prospect of MAD, however, means that any real action would be disaterous.
IAteYourMother
Lifer
It was a joke...
IAteYourMother
Lifer
Double Post.
IAteYourMother
Lifer
...There's a difference between raw uranium and bombs. And aside from nuclear confrontation, in which no one wins, the US would win a conventional war quite easily.
I'm also sure that in a hypothetical situation of the US occupying Canada, the Canadians don't have as much access to RPGs and AKs as do the insurgents in Canada. But if there really was a good reason for the US attacking any country, I would think that the US would just blow it to bits, invade and destroy them, and then pull most of its troops out. In a real war between powerful countries, there probably will be no plans to rebuild, and if there were, much of it would be in the debt of the loser.
ALL OF THIS IS HYPOTHETICAL, AND I WAS KIDDING ABOUT INVADING CANADA (although not about the US having more military might)
We process our uranium, we easily have the tech and expertise to make bombs we've sold nuclear reactors 'Candu's' the world over. The bomb would be the great equalizer, No sh1t you have the conventional forces, step them over the line and here comes the nukes. deadlock. . .
As I've pointed out we don't play this game it doesn't mean we couldn't, we can, easily. .
Guns in Canada, 5-6 million gun owners 15-18 million guns, would that be enough to mount an effective resistance? I can go buy an SKS today for about $150 CDN
My only response was to Coulter who figures shes gonna squash Canada like a bug and we are resting under her nuclear sheild
As I've pointed out we don't play this game it doesn't mean we couldn't, we can, easily. .
Guns in Canada, 5-6 million gun owners 15-18 million guns, would that be enough to mount an effective resistance? I can go buy an SKS today for about $150 CDN
My only response was to Coulter who figures shes gonna squash Canada like a bug and we are resting under her nuclear sheild
IAteYourMother
Lifer
Here comes the National Missile Defense.
IAteYourMother
Lifer
Oh, and if you nuke us when we invade you, you'd break all the international treaties 😛
Yeah as I previously pointed out we opted out of that game.
Coulter seems to ignore history, seriously if the US was a threat, like a Cuba to you, was on our border, we would have made them. no doubt, the beauty of it is we don't have to, and granted having the only world power on your border and you get along with them, cause face it, in reality there isn't a dimes worth of difference between our countries. Yeah it don't hurt. 😀
But if the world was a much more dangerous place for us, sure we'd rise to the occasion. In WW2 Canada had the 4th largest navy in the world. She assumes we can't. . Thats what p1sses me off.
Its one of the reasons I feel we should cooperate with the US on their missle sheild plan. I don't think it will work, but I don't think we should be an impediment to it and we should give the US access to our air space and setup a modern DEW line, why not?
Coulter seems to ignore history, seriously if the US was a threat, like a Cuba to you, was on our border, we would have made them. no doubt, the beauty of it is we don't have to, and granted having the only world power on your border and you get along with them, cause face it, in reality there isn't a dimes worth of difference between our countries. Yeah it don't hurt. 😀
But if the world was a much more dangerous place for us, sure we'd rise to the occasion. In WW2 Canada had the 4th largest navy in the world. She assumes we can't. . Thats what p1sses me off.
Its one of the reasons I feel we should cooperate with the US on their missle sheild plan. I don't think it will work, but I don't think we should be an impediment to it and we should give the US access to our air space and setup a modern DEW line, why not?
Bahahahahahaha this is so hilarious!
"Well I don't think that every Canadian is dog-sledding at all times but I do think there's a lot of dog-sledding in Canada.... Welcome to our century!"
"The average Canadian is busy dog-sledding. You know that."
Haha he said it so matter-of-factly I just can't help but think he's telling the truth.
"Well I don't think that every Canadian is dog-sledding at all times but I do think there's a lot of dog-sledding in Canada.... Welcome to our century!"
"The average Canadian is busy dog-sledding. You know that."
Haha he said it so matter-of-factly I just can't help but think he's telling the truth.
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