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Canada, guy who killed, beheaded and ate greyhound passenger allowed leave hospital

OutHouse

OutHouse

Lifer
damn,

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...er-allowed-leave-mental-hospital--escort.html


On July 30, 2008, Li was sitting on a Greyhound bus headed to Winnipeg next to McLean. The young man had his eyes closed and was listening to music on his headphones when Li suddenly stood up and started stabbing him.
Vince Li, a schizophrenic, was found criminally not responsible for the murder and sent to the Selkirk Mental Health Center

Treatment: Vince Li, a schizophrenic, was found criminally not responsible for the murder and sent to the Selkirk Mental Health Center (pictured)

Li then beheaded McLean and started parading up and down the bus brandishing the man's severed head.

As the bus ground to a halt and horrified passengers scrambled to get out, Li continued to stab, mutilate and dismember McLean. Witnesses reported seeing Li eat pieces of the man's body and lick blood from his fingers.
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Wow, if anyone is following this did they ever find out what triggered him to do this? That really sucks for that kid and his family no matter what caused Li to snap, but I am just curious if he ever said anything.

Back to being more on topic, people who kill other people should be incarcerated for at least 10-20 years minimum even if they are insane. The only reason a person should not serve time is if it was self defense obviously.
 
yllus said:
To be fair, we think he did it accidentally.
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Is that directed towards me? If so I was just asking what set this guy off. If he just pulled out a knife and randomly stabbed someone it must have been triggered by something and the 4 years he spent in a mental facility should have shed some light on why this happened. I am interested in the psychology of it.
 
Psychiatrists testified at his trial that Li was schizophrenic and suffering a major psychotic episode at the time of the killing.

Li heard voices from God telling him that McLean was an evil threat that needed to be eliminated, the psychiatrists said.
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http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2012/05/17/vince-li-greyhound-bus-killer_n_1525555.html?ref=canada

I tend to agree that although he may have been not guilty due to mental illness, he should never be allowed out in public again.
 
Kadarin said:
This is a dangerous person who is clearly of no value whatsoever to society. He should be executed.
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You're a dangerous person lacking morals in valuing human life.

So, if the guy 'had value to society' in some way, say he's wealthy, don't kill him?

I don't recall your politics, but it's a bit funny if right-wingers fall back on 'value to society' when it suits their agenda, while attacking it generally. What little dictators they are.
 
D1gger said:
http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2012/05/17/vince-li-greyhound-bus-killer_n_1525555.html?ref=canada

I tend to agree that although he may have been not guilty due to mental illness, he should never be allowed out in public again.
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IMO, if someone snuck a massive dose of LSD and PCP into you, and you killed someone under the influence, you should never be in public again.

This only applies to you, not to everyone, since you have the bad views.

Nevermind you aren't dangerous when the cause is removed. You didn't care about that with this guy.
 
OutHouse said:
oh the parts about him being a model patient and that he will be escorted at all time while out in town???

sorry pal, but anybody who does a crime like this needs to be permanently removed from society if not this world.
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Not sure what's the point of keeping that guy alive, really.
 
Craig234 said:
You're a dangerous person lacking morals in valuing human life.

So, if the guy 'had value to society' in some way, say he's wealthy, don't kill him?

I don't recall your politics, but it's a bit funny if right-wingers fall back on 'value to society' when it suits their agenda, while attacking it generally. What little dictators they are.
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I think that's more of a perspective issue - I don't think that particular individual's life has value. It's not an innate thing that everyone is entitled to - If i drop brain dead from a brain aneurism this very moment, there'd be no value in my vegetative state either.

In general bad policy is justified by the "value of human life" angle - think abortion policy etc.
 
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Craig234 said:
You're a dangerous person lacking morals in valuing human life.

So, if the guy 'had value to society' in some way, say he's wealthy, don't kill him?

I don't recall your politics, but it's a bit funny if right-wingers fall back on 'value to society' when it suits their agenda, while attacking it generally. What little dictators they are.
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I think when you butcher and eat your busmate that you no longer deserve to be considered human and should be put down like the animal you are.

halik said:
I think that's more of a perspective issue - I don't think that particular individual's life has value. It's not an innate thing that everyone is entitled to - If i drop brain dead from a brain aneurism this very moment, there'd be no value in my vegetative state either.

In general bad policy is justified by the "value of human life" angle - think abortion policy etc.
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Funny how liberals worship the ability for women to have abortions... but when a guy kills and eats his busmate they feel it is essential to make sure he is allowed out into society :\
 
Sheesh. You'd think right wing fringe whacks would have some sympathy for the other dangerously deranged delusionists of the world...
 
nehalem256 said:
I think when you butcher and eat your busmate that you no longer deserve to be considered human and should be put down like the animal you are.



Funny how liberals worship the ability for women to have abortions... but when a guy kills and eats his busmate they feel it is essential to make sure he is allowed out into society :\
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And we find it interesting that you would be fine denying a women's right to make choices about her own body with the excuse of protecting a life that doesn't yet exist. But would gladly give the state power to murder a mentally ill human being who is too sick to realize what they did was wrong.
 
thraashman said:
And we find it interesting that you would be fine denying a women's right to make choices about her own body with the excuse of protecting a life that doesn't yet exist. But would gladly give the state power to murder a mentally ill human being who is too sick to realize what they did was wrong.
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I have no problems with abortion. How else are we going to ensure idiots dont have 30 kids with 11 women
 
I would hope the doctors, judge, mental health advocates and anyone else involved with his complete release would have to have seen the photos of the severed head and cannibalized body on the bloody floor of that bus before recommending that. I don't care how mentally ill he was at the time that shouldn't absolve him of responsibility for this. This isn't just some garden variety street crazy muttering to himself.
 
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