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Canada Ends Gun Registry for Long Guns!

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OTTAWA — The Conservative government says its MPs will celebrate after a historic vote to end the long-gun registry Wednesday evening, despite vehement opposition to the move in Quebec and much of urban Canada.
Public Safety Minister Vic Toews told reporters Wednesday, hours before the vote, that the government’s actions are long overdue.
“It does nothing to help put an end to gun crimes, nor has it saved one Canadian life,” he said.


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I live in Canada and, even though I hate the Conservative Party as I'm a NDPer, I agree with this. It's long overdue. Criminals don't register their guns (obviously) so it was ineffective.
 
At last!
It was ridicule from day 1, cost twice the price they expected and did nothing good to society.

This registry never should have been born.
 
Always thought the registry was a waste of time. Never registered my long gun.

That said, the dick in charge of taking this thing apart due to 'privacy issues' has just launched an internet bill that will allow warrantless monitoring. He came out and said anyone against the bill is obviously pro child porn. What the fuck? I thought you liked privacy?

Always has been a stupid wedge issue, very little will change.
As stupid as the registry was, I'd take it over having these morons in power, burning money and destroying privacy on a greater scale.
 
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Liberals have a weird anti-gun fetish in Canada. I don't think the strict anti-gun laws have really made the streets any safer, nor will more guns make them less safe.

I actually did used to be anti-gun up until recently. Conceal and carry crime statistics changed my mind on the subject. Crime does go down in places that allow it. I'm not going to run out and buy a long gun but I think it's a step in the right direction. Responsible owners should not be penalized.
 
These registries never help and I am glad to see them finally coming to their senses.
For one long guns are rarely used in crimes. Two when a crime is committed with a long gun it is usually by someone who knows the victim and a fight has broken out between them. If the crime was random and the perp is not easily identified then there is no way the police will visit every person on the registry to check if they fired their gun recently.
 
Colt45 said:
Always thought the registry was a waste of time. Never registered my long gun.

That said, the dick in charge of taking this thing apart due to 'privacy issues' has just launched an internet bill that will allow warrantless monitoring. He came out and said anyone against the bill is obviously pro child porn. What the fuck? I thought you liked privacy?

Always has been a stupid wedge issue, very little will change.
As stupid as the registry was, I'd take it over having these morons in power, burning money and destroying privacy on a greater scale.
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+1

And these registry type systems may not explicitly police, arrest and prosecute criminals but they do add a deterrant. Of course Harper and co. want Canada to turn into the US where you can buy a handgun at the grocery store.
 
DukeN said:
+1

And these registry type systems may not explicitly police, arrest and prosecute criminals but they do add a deterrant. Of course Harper and co. want Canada to turn into the US where you can buy a handgun at the grocery store.
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Uhh... *taps sarcasm meter*

Yeah you know you can't do that in the US right? There's this background check you have to pass, forms to fill out, some states require you to wait several months to get a pass to even purchase one... yeah. We have plenty of effective gun control in the US. It's just not perfect, and given the number of guns we have here that minute imperfection is magnified.
 
mmntech said:
I actually did used to be anti-gun up until recently. Conceal and carry crime statistics changed my mind on the subject. Crime does go down in places that allow it. I'm not going to run out and buy a long gun but I think it's a step in the right direction. Responsible owners should not be penalized.
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Baby steps towards the light........:thumbsup:



j/k
 
DukeN said:
+1

And these registry type systems may not explicitly police, arrest and prosecute criminals but they do add a deterrant. Of course Harper and co. want Canada to turn into the US where you can buy a handgun at the grocery store.
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Guns don't kill people, people kill people. Seriously get that through your head. EVERYONE in Switzerland has to have a gun, EVERYONE is armed. Go look at their crime and murder rates. Using the argument "GUNS ARE DANGEROUS" is like using the argument "CARS ARE DANGEROUS" of course they are in the hands of an idiot or someone wishing to do harm. Why should everyone else be punished because of them? Stupid ass reasoning. People wonder where hate comes from, it comes from stupid shit like that. "no you can't do that because some other idiot killed himself" so? Let me kill myself then, pussy.
 
bfdd said:
Guns don't kill people, people kill people. Seriously get that through your head. EVERYONE in Switzerland has to have a gun, EVERYONE is armed. Go look at their crime and murder rates. Using the argument "GUNS ARE DANGEROUS" is like using the argument "CARS ARE DANGEROUS" of course they are in the hands of an idiot or someone wishing to do harm. Why should everyone else be punished because of them? Stupid ass reasoning. People wonder where hate comes from, it comes from stupid shit like that. "no you can't do that because some other idiot killed himself" so? Let me kill myself then, pussy.
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But, bu.. but guns are pitchforks forged in the fires of hell by Satan himself specifically to kill people! And killing people, even bad people who try to kill innocent people, is always wrong! I mean, cars may kill many times more people than guns every year but... they're made for transportation! So it's not the deaths that matter, it's that spooky eeeevil quality.
 
I wonder if this changes any of the procedures you have to go through as a US citizen that wants to hunt in Canada and take your guns and ammo across the border with you?
 
Vic Toews is a tool.

The registry was cumbersome and expensive and it's probably better that it is gone, but apparently the RCMP use it all the time and have used it to solve gun crimes.

I'm not saying it's worth it, but Toews' information is incorrect, and that is the worrying part about this for me.
 
Colt45 said:
That said, the dick in charge of taking this thing apart due to 'privacy issues' has just launched an internet bill that will allow warrantless monitoring. He came out and said anyone against the bill is obviously pro child porn. What the fuck? I thought you liked privacy?
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Serious...

As for keeping the info already in the registry, I recall hearing about how the Conservatives wanted to "burn" the registry so that it could never be used again. The main reason was so there would be no incentive to start it up again.
 
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