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Can you tell me if this is a good deal?

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Holysmoke36

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$527 plus tax

REFURBISHED

Processor Processor: Intel Core 4th Generation i7-4770 Processor (8M Cache, up to 3.9 GHz)
Operating System Windows 8
Hard Disk Drive 1TB 7200 rpm SATA 6Gb/s Hard Drive
Memory 8GB Dual Channel DDR3 at 1600Mhz
Media Bay 16X DVD +/- RW Drive
Video 1 GB NVIDIA GeForce GT 635 DDR3
Base Dell Outlet XPS 8700
Network Interface Card Dell Wireless 1703 802.11a/b/g/n, Bluetooth v4.0
Keyboard English Keyboard
Mouse Dell USB 6-Button Laser Mouse
Hardware Upgrade 120V Power Cord
32 GB SSDR mSATA Full Card
460 Watt Power supply Black
1 year warranty
 
I mean the CPU itself is worth half of the price tag.... If you add the OS, HDD and RAM, you're already going to be close to $500 if you build it yourself. So I would say yes, it's a pretty good deal.

However, it's probably not going to be more than $100 over that price if you were to build it yourself. So if you are looking for a gaming or highly up-gradable system, I'd recommend spending the extra $$ to build it yourself.

If you just want a PC for what it's worth out of the box and aren't going to be gaming or overclocking, then I'd highly recommend that refurb deal.
 
I don't have a Microcenter near me so newegg would be $310 for the CPU. I do get legit windows 7 for $10 as a teacher however and will be replacing Windows 8 with Win 7
 
Holysmoke36 said:
video editing and I know the graphics card must be upgraded
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Well in that case I'd say it's a great deal for you. You can always add a (larger) SSD and you should also be able to get a fairly decent graphics card without having to upgrade the PSU.

Nvidia's new cards should be coming this year and they will be extremely efficient in terms of power/performance. If you can hold off till then, one of those cards would be a really good fit for this particular PC.
 
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thanks nwo

Im at $527 with these items in cart at newegg, still need motherboard, video card, case, mouse and keyboard and OS.

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ASUS DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS Black SATA 24X DVD Burner - Bulk - OEM

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Western Digital WD10EZEX 1TB 7200 RPM 64MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive, Blue

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Intel Core i7-4770 Haswell 3.4GHz LGA 1150 84W Quad-Core Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics BX80646I74770

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SanDisk ReadyCache SDSSDRC-032G-G26 2.5" 32GB SATA III for Windows 7 and Windows 8 -based PCs

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Well, you still need motherboard/PSU/case which would definitely add up to anywhere from $100+ to $200.

Mouse/keyboard and OS are probably going to add up to ~$50 combined, assuming you pay $10 for OS and get a half decent mouse/keyboard rather than the most budget ones.

Lastly, you can choose whichever video card you want, so we will leave that out of the equation since the GT 635 is worthless anyway.

So, assuming you do not have to pay tax for newegg items, the newegg build is still going to be at least $100 more than the Dell system with tax. That's before you purchase a video card.

Are you planning on overclocking? It would be pretty useful for video editing but since you were looking at a Dell system and a locked CPU, I assumed you were not going to be overclocking.
 
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I hit refresh for 30 minutes on the dell outlet and only had xps 8700 results show up.

I saw $819 for days but then one popped up for $658 and I applied the 20% coupon.

I just couldn't believe it included any SSD which they rarely do.

I once got an xps 8500 i7 3rd gen for $351 shipped after refunding the premium phone support and 25% off code

whenever they have those codes, it is a matter of patience and refreshing sometimes for hours

remember this a refurb
 
Refurb or not, that is still a great deal. I'd be all over it if I wasn't an OC fanatic :wub:
 
Holysmoke36,
I just want to thank you for this thread, I had no idea Dell was selling refurb 4770 so cheap. I too played the refresh game and also found a $659 system eventually, albiet without the mSATA. After applying promotional discounts this was cheaper than the i5 CPU/Mobo/Ram/OS upgrades I had in my cart at Newegg. Amazing deal.
 
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Holysmoke36 said:
video editing and I know the graphics card must be upgraded
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What video editing software do you use? The only reason you'd need to upgrade the GPU is to take advantage of GPU-accelerated effects rendering. Otherwise the GPU's power doesn't matter.

In fact, I'd probably add an SSD like the M500 240GB for $140 before I changed the GPU. The SSD will make a huge difference in pretty much all desktop usage models.
http://redirect.anandtech.com/r?url...duct.aspx?Item=N82E16820148694&user=u00000687
 
The Dell refurb already comes with a small mSATA SSD which is ideal for Intel SRT. You won't get the performance of a real SSD, but it will be a lot faster than a HDD without having to worry about running out of storage space on a small SSD.
 
nwo, can you explain what you mean by not running out of space on the small SSD?

Does this act differently than an SSD normally does?

How much of a performance gain would I get with a real SSD?

mfenn said:
What video editing software do you use? The only reason you'd need to upgrade the GPU is to take advantage of GPU-accelerated effects rendering. Otherwise the GPU's power doesn't matter.

In fact, I'd probably add an SSD like the M500 240GB for $140 before I changed the GPU. The SSD will make a huge difference in pretty much all desktop usage models.
http://redirect.anandtech.com/r?url...duct.aspx?Item=N82E16820148694&user=u00000687
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That is very tempting
 
Holysmoke36 said:
nwo, can you explain what you mean by not running out of space on the small SSD?

Does this act differently than an SSD normally does?

How much of a performance gain would I get with a real SSD?
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Well what I mean is that if you use Intel SRT, it will turn your mSATA SSD into a cache drive. Unlike RAM, SSDs do not have their data wiped on a reboot. So with the mSATA SSD & Intel SRT, you boost the performance of your HDD without having to purchase a small SSD to make a boot drive and have to decide which applications you want to move to it. All applications and even your OS boot times will benefit from having a SSD cache drive. Last but not least, I believe 64GB is the largest amount you can use towards a cache drive. So it should be perfect for that purpose.

Here is a great review with some impressive results of SRT:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/4329/intel-z68-chipset-smart-response-technology-ssd-caching-review/4

It actually amazes me how close to real SSD performance you can get, without having to pay top $$$ for a huge SSD!

In essence, this paragraph sums it up pretty well:
A pure SSD setup is going to give you predictable performance across the board regardless of what you do, whereas Intel's SRT is more useful in improving performance in more limited, repetitive usage models. Admittedly most users probably fall into the latter category.
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The question is what good is a 32 gb SSD?
The new 802.11ac/n + Bluetooth Centrino cards are coming out now.
A video card with DDR3 ram might be considered slow and sub-standard.

Hard to comment without exact motherboard model.

Is it worth it? Yes, more or less. I think if you are going to purchase a new i7 4th generation PC you may want a larger SSD. A crucial M500 250gb is just $139.
 
nwo said:
Well what I mean is that if you use Intel SRT, it will turn your mSATA SSD into a cache drive.
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when you say if, is it something that I have to enable?

I like what I read here at anandtech

" Intel's Smart Response Technology (SRT) is an interesting addition to the mix. For starters, it's not going to make your high end SSD obsolete. You'll still get better overall performance by grabbing a large (80-160GB+) SSD, putting your OS + applications on it, and manually moving all of your large media files to a separate hard drive. What SRT does offer however is a stepping stone to a full blown SSD + HDD setup and a solution that doesn't require end user management. You don't get the same performance as a large dedicated SSD, but you can turn any hard drive into a much higher performing storage device. Paired with a 20GB SLC SSD cache, I could turn a 4-year-old 1TB hard drive into something that was 41% faster than a VelociRaptor.

If you're building a system for someone who isn't going to want to manage multiple drive letters, SRT may be a good alternative. Similarly, if you're building a budget box that won't allow for a large expensive SSD, the $110 adder for an Intel SSD 311 can easily double the performance of even the fastest hard drive you could put in there. The most obvious win here is the lighter user that only runs a handful of applications on a regular basis. As our tests have shown, for light workloads you can easily get the performance of an X25-M G2 out of a fast hard drive + an SSD cache. Even gamers may find use in SSD caching as they could dedicate a portion of their SSD to acting as a cache for a dedicated games HDD, thereby speeding up launch and level load times for the games that reside on that drive. The fact that you can use any SSD as a cache is nice since it gives you something to do with your old SSDs when you upgrade."
 
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Holysmoke36 said:
$527 plus tax

REFURBISHED

Processor Processor: Intel Core 4th Generation i7-4770 Processor (8M Cache, up to 3.9 GHz)
Operating System Windows 8
Hard Disk Drive 1TB 7200 rpm SATA 6Gb/s Hard Drive
Memory 8GB Dual Channel DDR3 at 1600Mhz
Media Bay 16X DVD +/- RW Drive
Video 1 GB NVIDIA GeForce GT 635 DDR3
Base Dell Outlet XPS 8700
Network Interface Card Dell Wireless 1703 802.11a/b/g/n, Bluetooth v4.0
Keyboard English Keyboard
Mouse Dell USB 6-Button Laser Mouse
Hardware Upgrade 120V Power Cord
32 GB SSDR mSATA Full Card
460 Watt Power supply Black
1 year warranty
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That is one cheap video card. You cant game with it. Grab a 660 Ti .... sheez!!!
 
Yep, you have to enable it on a blank SSD. But setup should be fairly straightforward and you shouldn't have to worry about it afterwards.

However, I haven't used SRT for two reasons, so I can't speak from personal experience... First, I found out about it after setting up all my SSDs as boot drives. Also because my smallest SSD is 100GB and I believe SRT goes only up to 64GB. I'm pretty sure I could use a larger SSD for it, but it would be a waste since it would leave me with a lot of empty space since the SSD that is used for SRT cannot be used as a boot drive, which is pretty much the only thing that matters to me.
 
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